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 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:29 pm
Norayr kim ocean Who would you think of as a good example of a man? Are there any suitable role models? I don't think there are any people we can look up to. And that's something I've covered in many of my classes these last couple semesters. Us guys don't have a hero we can look up to to aspire to be. That's a problem for this generation. There seems to be this strange celebrity worship that's common today, and it really isn't deserved. And then there are movies and tv shows that are complete fiction, yet boys feel like that's what they're expected to be.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:32 pm
kim ocean Norayr kim ocean Who would you think of as a good example of a man? Are there any suitable role models? I don't think there are any people we can look up to. And that's something I've covered in many of my classes these last couple semesters. Us guys don't have a hero we can look up to to aspire to be. That's a problem for this generation. There seems to be this strange celebrity worship that's common today, and it really isn't deserved. And then there are movies and tv shows that are complete fiction, yet boys feel like that's what they're expected to be. Amen. Our society is just so unhealthy. Everything about it points to degrading the human race. We're in store for a terribly dysfunctional future (as if our present wasn't). Though I'm not saying that there aren't the good parts to our humanity and our society..
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:32 pm
Y are we talkiong about this?
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:34 pm
Norayr I appreciate your input, and I believe that that's one thing that many guys don't have… balance. And it's because of this that many of them are like you said, jerks or pretty emasculated. For me, i love guys with the "emo" look. its always been that way. I got for the punks, goths, emos, scene, and the famous "trendies" lol. Im more for personality, but apperance is also fun. I think that when boys are skinny and muscly its nasty cuz all you see is bulk. and i hate when guy's boobs stick out further than theyre beer guts. But im not too picky, I mean yeah theyre fun to look at, but there has to be more then body, ho about brainds and eyes... oh a good smile... yes yes and geez they need to know dental higein!!
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:35 pm
Norayr kim ocean Norayr kim ocean Who would you think of as a good example of a man? Are there any suitable role models? I don't think there are any people we can look up to. And that's something I've covered in many of my classes these last couple semesters. Us guys don't have a hero we can look up to to aspire to be. That's a problem for this generation. There seems to be this strange celebrity worship that's common today, and it really isn't deserved. And then there are movies and tv shows that are complete fiction, yet boys feel like that's what they're expected to be. Amen. Our society is just so unhealthy. Everything about it points to degrading the human race. We're in store for a terribly dysfunctional future (as if our present wasn't). Though I'm not saying that there aren't the good parts to our humanity and our society.. Like what? xD Our society is absolutely awful, there is no such thing as freedom, we live in a climate of fear, we hate, we are selfish and greedy, we only ever follow self interest and in an attempt to feel good about ourselves we drive our SUV's up to the dump to recycle stuff, and donate money to charity. OH! And most of all! We are completely moronic hypocritical drones who do whatever we're told by "god" or government officials
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:36 pm
nikki stix Norayr I appreciate your input, and I believe that that's one thing that many guys don't have… balance. And it's because of this that many of them are like you said, jerks or pretty emasculated. For me, i love guys with the "emo" look. its always been that way. I got for the punks, goths, emos, scene, and the famous "trendies" lol. Im more for personality, but apperance is also fun. I think that when boys are skinny and muscly its nasty cuz all you see is bulk. and i hate when guy's boobs stick out further than theyre beer guts. But im not too picky, I mean yeah theyre fun to look at, but there has to be more then body, ho about brainds and eyes... oh a good smile... yes yes and geez they need to know dental higein!! Then I'd never appeal to you physically.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:37 pm
Cornetto1 Like what? xD Our society is absolutely awful, there is no such thing as freedom, we live in a climate of fear, we hate, we are selfish and greedy, we only ever follow self interest and in an attempt to feel good about ourselves we drive our SUV's up to the dump to recycle stuff, and donate money to charity. OH! And most of all! We are completely moronic hypocritical drones who do whatever we're told by "god" or government officials Oh the philosophy! The people that actually think and try to make a difference. The people that invest their time to help others out. Many other things like what I just mentioned. But the negative far outweigh the efforts of the positive.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:43 pm
Norayr Cornetto1 Like what? xD Our society is absolutely awful, there is no such thing as freedom, we live in a climate of fear, we hate, we are selfish and greedy, we only ever follow self interest and in an attempt to feel good about ourselves we drive our SUV's up to the dump to recycle stuff, and donate money to charity. OH! And most of all! We are completely moronic hypocritical drones who do whatever we're told by "god" or government officials Oh the philosophy! The people that actually think and try to make a difference. The people that invest their time to help others out. Many other things like what I just mentioned. But the negative far outweigh the efforts of the positive. I'm sorry, but people only ever do anything through self interest. It's the way the human mind works, it's the fundamental thing that drives us through our ultimately pointless existances. People (most, not all) ONLY ever do things for other people to feel good about themselves while they can live their lavish and abundant lives, surrounded by material glory, produced by the exploited people the charities they donate to help, BUT that's ok! Because they give £3 a week to oxfam.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:46 pm
Ok, you have a point there.
But then again, the people/organizations (non-profit) that don't have much but give a lot to better their society should be credited with something more than just, "I do this because it makes me feel good." Don't you think?
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:47 pm
Norayr Knit Happens Norayr ... and fun to look at (attractive from a girl's pov, and something to strive for from a boy's pov)... That sounds rather shallow. So if you're not handsome, then you're not a man? I think you mean that he should have good hygiene and take good care of himself instead the attractive bit. You misunderstood what I meant with that. But what you came up with is also something that many guys should be doing. Plus attractive has a wide array of characteristics you can fit in there. You just took the superficial. If I'm being superficial here, then what exactly do you mean by "fun to look at"?
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:47 pm
Norayr nikki stix Norayr I appreciate your input, and I believe that that's one thing that many guys don't have… balance. And it's because of this that many of them are like you said, jerks or pretty emasculated. For me, i love guys with the "emo" look. its always been that way. I got for the punks, goths, emos, scene, and the famous "trendies" lol. Im more for personality, but apperance is also fun. I think that when boys are skinny and muscly its nasty cuz all you see is bulk. and i hate when guy's boobs stick out further than theyre beer guts. But im not too picky, I mean yeah theyre fun to look at, but there has to be more then body, ho about brainds and eyes... oh a good smile... yes yes and geez they need to know dental higein!! Then I'd never appeal to you physically. Well... i wouldnt be too sure. I mean it al depends. ive liked some FUGLY people but it was because their personality changed how i saw them.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:51 pm
I still disagree, helping people satisfies peoples "charity drive". All people want to be on the moral high ground, this is natural, how do people do this? They create organisations to help others, they donate to organisations, hell people who really want to get on their high horses go over there and live in the slums for a few years helping out the underpriviledged locals, they only ever do this because they either want to feel better or more important than other people or because they want to reinforce their so called morals and ethics.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:57 pm
Knit Happens Norayr Knit Happens Norayr ... and fun to look at (attractive from a girl's pov, and something to strive for from a boy's pov)... That sounds rather shallow. So if you're not handsome, then you're not a man? I think you mean that he should have good hygiene and take good care of himself instead the attractive bit. You misunderstood what I meant with that. But what you came up with is also something that many guys should be doing. Plus attractive has a wide array of characteristics you can fit in there. You just took the superficial. If I'm being superficial here, then what exactly do you mean by "fun to look at"? I'm just having fun with the line… putting some relief in there. Why are you so fixated on that on line?
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm
nikki stix Norayr nikki stix Norayr I appreciate your input, and I believe that that's one thing that many guys don't have… balance. And it's because of this that many of them are like you said, jerks or pretty emasculated. For me, i love guys with the "emo" look. its always been that way. I got for the punks, goths, emos, scene, and the famous "trendies" lol. Im more for personality, but apperance is also fun. I think that when boys are skinny and muscly its nasty cuz all you see is bulk. and i hate when guy's boobs stick out further than theyre beer guts. But im not too picky, I mean yeah theyre fun to look at, but there has to be more then body, ho about brainds and eyes... oh a good smile... yes yes and geez they need to know dental higein!! Then I'd never appeal to you physically. Well... i wouldnt be too sure. I mean it al depends. ive liked some FUGLY people but it was because their personality changed how i saw them. Definitely. Have you noticed that the more you spend time with a person the less you consider their appearance. To some extent you've forgotten their appearance till you stop and just look at them for a while.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:59 pm
Norayr Knit Happens Norayr Knit Happens Norayr ... and fun to look at (attractive from a girl's pov, and something to strive for from a boy's pov)... That sounds rather shallow. So if you're not handsome, then you're not a man? I think you mean that he should have good hygiene and take good care of himself instead the attractive bit. You misunderstood what I meant with that. But what you came up with is also something that many guys should be doing. Plus attractive has a wide array of characteristics you can fit in there. You just took the superficial. If I'm being superficial here, then what exactly do you mean by "fun to look at"? I'm just having fun with the line… putting some relief in there. Why are you so fixated on that on line? Because it makes you seem shallow and sexist and diminishes the impact of your argument
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