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| C. Gimme da gold! |
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 Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:26 pm
famusamu St. Michael of Edgewood baptistgirl Ablazed I'm not too fond of our new Pope. I do not believe you give individuals credit. I grew up reading a ton of fantasy/magic books, and it did not injure my spirituality in the least. For crying out loud, the LOTR series actually has underlying messages of religion, if you choose to look for them. I'm sure you could find the same in Harry Potter, as you can find anything if you search hard enough. I have not read the books, but I have seen the first film. I am not a fan of the series, but only because it really isn't my cup of tea. I see nothing wrong with it spiritually... I don't think there is anything wrong with a little imagination. This is the conclusion I have drawn soley from the film, which seemed like a nice little fantasy. The Lord of the rings books were written by a Christain, J.R.R Tolkien who led C.S Lewis, the writer of the Chronicles of Narnia to the LORD. Harry Potter is quite different than LOTR or Narnia, because it does not give glory to God, nor has it's author done anything to be a witness to the LORD as Tolkien and Lewis have. She's Presbyterian and she is very generous with her money, I mean C.S Lewis was one of the greatest Christian writers of all time, how can she compete with that... Have you even read the books? There are a lot of symbols for Christ and there are a lot of references to Christianity.... So going to church and and donating money to charity makes some one a Great Christian? rolleyes Thats not what I meant... what makes a great Christian?
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:09 pm
Chronowatcher It makes little kids look at magic as okay. They think that there is such thing as good and evil with magic. I was at a gas station filling up my tank and I heard a commercial about harry potter, and the announcer said something to the effect of watch this battle of good vs evil...more like good intentions used in the wrong way. Harry Potter is a tool used to delight children in searching into this "hidden" field. These books would be fine and dandy if the kids didn't take into it so personally, but alas, they can't, they have see it as harmless and they start themselves into defending these books and movies, yet are plagued with a twisted idea of what is right and what is not. Do I have to quote myself to get your attention? Thing with LOTTR or the chronicles or narnia: Kids didn't want to become witches and wizards and go to a school of sourcery because of it. In Harry Potter, they do. I'm not saying all readers want to, but some do. And in this day and age, more of them are taking it to heart.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:18 pm
Chronowatcher Chronowatcher It makes little kids look at magic as okay. They think that there is such thing as good and evil with magic. I was at a gas station filling up my tank and I heard a commercial about harry potter, and the announcer said something to the effect of watch this battle of good vs evil...more like good intentions used in the wrong way. Harry Potter is a tool used to delight children in searching into this "hidden" field. These books would be fine and dandy if the kids didn't take into it so personally, but alas, they can't, they have see it as harmless and they start themselves into defending these books and movies, yet are plagued with a twisted idea of what is right and what is not. Do I have to quote myself to get your attention? Thing with LOTTR or the chronicles or narnia: Kids didn't want to become witches and wizards and go to a school of sourcery because of it. In Harry Potter, they do. I'm not saying all readers want to, but some do. And in this day and age, more of them are taking it to heart. It has most definitely become clear that mass book burning and the repeal of the freedom of speech is most certainly the best and safest way to battle against such atrocity commited against the Lord.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:46 pm
i dont know if harry potter is evil nor do i care. it sounds liek a stupid kids book and is probably evil but i wont read it either way just because 10000000 people like it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:05 pm
I dont think its evil. Sure it has magic, but so do a lot of other things. What about The Lord of the Rings? Or the Chronicles or Naria? Even this website has things that have to do with magic (the fairy wings, magic cloaks?). If young kids are reading it they need to be taught that it is not real. But someone my age knows that its not true. Its just make believe. I dont condemn it. But I know whats real and what is fantasy. I dont think me reading something will make me any less of a Christian. I love God, I talk to him all the time.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:21 pm
I'm sad to see most people here disagree with Pope Benedict XVI. I have studied Harry Potter and found it completely occultism and dangerous to young minds. I see local news videos clips of children in Harry Potter customs, casting spells with a wand for fun and play with others. And your telling me that Harry Potter doesn't change the mind? Sure, its all "fantasy" but you must look at the message its presenting. Would you give your children a PlayBoy magazine that had fantasy stories in it to read? I sure wouldn't... Saying its just "fantasy" is really saying you don't believe in any kind of witchcraft. We Christians must protect are children from such opened occult influences. I wouldn't suggest Harry Potter for entertainment purposes for both children and adults. If you want to learn more from a Christian perspective on Harry Potter, I suggest watching these videos. Harry Potter - Part 1
Harry Potter - Part 2
Harry Potter - Part 3God Bless heart
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:50 pm
it's defenatley just a harmless story... stare
I mean it's not a sin to read it or anything.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:00 pm
St. Michael of Edgewood Thats not what I meant... what makes a great Christian? A person who lives according to how Christ taught, and uses their time and talents to build up His Kingdom. A great Christian is noted for doing everything that they do for the Glory of G-d, not man. Going to church, donating money and being a good person will not get you into Heaven, only by accepting Jesus as LORD and fleeing from all appearances of Evil will you get there.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:49 pm
Knotghlon Sure, its all "fantasy" but you must look at the message its presenting. Would you give your children a PlayBoy magazine that had fantasy stories in it? That is perhaps the most idiotic thing in this thread. And that's a pretty high standard to beat. No one is saying that Harry Potter is fine because it's fantasy, they're saying it's fine because it's just fantasy. You're setting up a big, ugly straw man by saying that the pro-Potter argument believes that adding fantasy to something makes it better.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:12 pm
Knotghlon, after reading your post, I have come to see a fatal flaw in my design. Burning the books and repealing freedom of speech will not resolve the matter in it's entirety. We must destroy all imagination. If imagination is destroyed, we will certainly be able to make sure there is absolutely nothing done to displease, or even upset, any followers of the Lord, moreover, we would all be believers. So, my plan now involves three steps. Burn any and all Harry Potter books for the fact that they are the very essence of evil, and the best way to overcome evil is to destroy it. We must then repeal the freedom of speech this will assure that nothing, even remotely displeasing to the Lord, can be communicated. Then we will destroy all imagination, thus making mindless drones who will follow whatever they are told to, this will ensure that christianity will be the only religion, and further ensure nothing displeasing to the Lord can be done and/or communicated.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:26 pm
Chaotic, if you're being sarcastic, I'm laughing pretty good right now.
I find it odd how everybody points to Harry Potter as evil and satanic, when all the books contain no such meanings, and are more about friendship and trust, rather than magic and "evil".
People are just looking for reasons to hate something these days.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:34 pm
Resiment Chaotic, if you're being sarcastic, I'm laughing pretty good right now. It's nice to see my satire is working.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:46 pm
chaoticpuppet Knotghlon, after reading your post, I have come to see a fatal flaw in my design. Burning the books and repealing freedom of speech will not resolve the matter in it's entirety. We must destroy all imagination. If imagination is destroyed, we will certainly be able to make sure there is absolutely nothing done to displease, or even upset, any followers of the Lord, moreover, we would all be believers. So, my plan now involves three steps. Burn any and all Harry Potter books for the fact that they are the very essence of evil, and the best way to overcome evil is to destroy it. We must then repeal the freedom of speech this will assure that nothing, even remotely displeasing to the Lord, can be communicated. Then we will destroy all imagination, thus making mindless drones who will follow whatever they are told to, this will ensure that christianity will be the only religion, and further ensure nothing displeasing to the Lord can be done and/or communicated. I'm not against freedom of speech and I find book burning pointless. I'm just addressing what kind of message Harry Potter contains. God created man below the angels and above the beast, but man has the freedom of choice.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:58 pm
Knotghlon I'm not against freedom of speech and I find book burning pointless. I'm just addressing what kind of message Harry Potter contains. God created man below the angels and above the beast, but man has the freedom of choice. Nor am I indicating that you are. I am merely being satirical, and coming up with an extreme solution. Furthermore, you can read anything you wish into any book you wish.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:54 pm
Harry Potter is not repackeged devil.
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