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 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:06 pm
That's just it. You don't. There's no mention of it in the final episode. (that's not really a spoiler so much a lack of spoiler. You never find out what Dewey told them. ergo the "biggest WTF moment".
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:11 pm
oh... also, now that it's aired...
hurray for evil golden necklaces.
I can finally talk about the necklace. It's evil. it has the whole backstory on it that nobody ever notices.
Eureka wasn't wearing it when she was at Tresor. She doesn't wear it when she and Adrock cause the first summer of love. Then Holland (SOF era version) mets her and we get this weird image of Eureka wrapped in a blanket. (My guess is that when Adrock disappeared and Dewey got Eureka... that's when she got her necklace). Later we see her piloting the nirvash with the SOF and wearing it.
Nother little tid bit. When she returned to the scub in the cave the necklace was the only thing that remained on her. The scub didn't even cover it in the nasty golden stuffs.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:15 pm
He probably said something along the lines of, "You must go, I will stay here to complete our plan" in his annoying voice...he probably didnt go into detail, but thats probably along the lines of what he said.
Watch between the lines!....err...somtm...
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:20 pm
DDUUUUUUUUDDEEEE!!! DEWEY HELLA CAPPED HIMSELF!! xd That makes me happy, won't have to see his ugly mug anymore. razz But the draw back is... he just screwed Eureka and Anemone.
Man... those necklaces are crazy.. Eureka's just disconnects yet stays around her neck; Anemone's unravels and hangs down. It's pretty obvious what happened with Eureka, but what about Anemone? What will her necklace being activated do? o_O`
Hey, Tolly? Dewey killing himself is how the Limit of Questions is reached, right? I think that's what happened, because when the Command Cluster was destroyed, all that happened was the coralians waking up and that was it. But it was when Dewey capped himself and Eureka's necklace was activated, that's when the Limit of Questions was reached, right?
I wonder what he told the Ageha kids, as well. I guess it could be what Steeveeo said. Too bad they never tell us. neutral
And another thing... the Desperation People... what happened to them? It's obvious they died and all, but it seemed that it was supposed to happen after the Command Cluster was destroyed because as Woz said, the trejectory of that debris changed, and you see two different Diseased people and the kids in the Foundation with books and then the debris hit them. What happened?
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:28 pm
awww c'mon, the english version!? c'mon! english dubs are no good! c'mon, i was done with eureka seveN ages ago, way back when you english dubz pplz were on episode memento morie! they screw with the voices and dialoge! and wheres the japanese reference notes!?
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:43 pm
My friend Soren said that most of the subs you find on YouTube aren't that great, such as they screw up on what people say. You'd have to talk to him about it, since I didn't watch any of the subs, nor would I be able to pick out any of this stuff.
I thought the English voices for the show were pretty good. A lot better than a lot of other shows you get out there. You're probably upset that the English voices sound "screwed up" because they sound different than that of Japanese voices. Come on! Voices from a one region of origin are going to sound different that voices of a completely different region of origin! You shouldn't get your undies in a bunch because of it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:05 pm
The timing on the whole limit of questions thing is tricky. Think of it this way. The shot from ballet mechanical blew up the clusters bulk and made it loose control of the scub. All the souls inside it were release, either to earth or to the other dimension (no the cluster wasn't the other dimension - it was somewhere in between) The compact drive in Dewey's chest was.. uh quote Dewey: "My Karma... by doing this I've become one with the world and with this sacred planet. My life is this planets life. The two of us are one and the same. I will die with the dignity of this planet... so cry all you want. This is the beginning of a brand new earth." It's very possible that Dewey's life force was the only thing preventing the limit of questions from being reach. Since he was still connected to it, in effect he should have been the command cluster. But when he died there was nothing stopping it. Except Anemone and Eureka... I really don't want to say anymore except that the vortex was the limit of questions. rekkaryuu And another thing... the Desperation People... what happened to them? It's obvious they died and all, but it seemed that it was supposed to happen after the Command Cluster was destroyed because as Woz said, the trajectory of that debris changed, and you see two different Diseased people and the kids in the Foundation with books and then the debris hit them. What happened? I knew this was coming. Will and his wife died, the girl and her parents on the plane died. They showed pieces of debris flying over the Novak foundation but not actually hitting it. Personally I prefer the idea that the novak foundation survived. Course.. the debris could have just been on it's way to land there. It's just like it seemed. They woke from the cluster and brought back there books. Um... the scubs had the ability to "change the laws of physics by force of will" this was done in the trapar level of the atmosphere. They used this ability to attack the towers. Originally I thought the attack was just against the towers, but apparently it was also against the desperation survivors as well.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:51 pm
DumberDan awww c'mon, the english version!? c'mon! english dubs are no good! c'mon, i was done with eureka seveN ages ago, way back when you english dubz pplz were on episode memento morie! they screw with the voices and dialoge! and wheres the japanese reference notes!? Wheee, sweeping generalizations! xp Personally I think it depends on which version you watched first that determines which you think is better. Your first impression of how characters should sound and such ingraves it in your mind. Same thing happened with me and Bleach, although I still love the dub. My basic thought is... what exactly makes the original so holy? O___o I haven't really seen any severe problems with the dub so far. In fact, the subs I watched had so many doggoned errors in translation and consistency that I'm hazy on a lot of stuff, I think. At least with the dub, you're getting trained translators instead of a bunch of weeaboos, ya know? razz But believe me, Eureka Seven doesn't have nearly as much need for reference notes as a lot of other anime. After all, it's set in a fictional world that only had Japan in its history. There were very, very few reference notes in the episodes I watched, anyway. Where does this show need them?
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:40 pm
Well it would have been nice if they had translated the graffitti in episode 12 but that's reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaallllllllyyy nitpicky.
Dumberdan. Back when episode 50 had fist been translated by Nanashi (yes yes they are to blame for all those pesky bad translations) there was a flood of people wanting to talk about what had just happened. It was basically the same time that Adult Swim first started airing the show and there message boards were being swamped by people wanting to post spoilers. It really just showed how much the fans wanted a place to talk and what a huge effect it had had on them.
Now that the dubs are at the same point there's bound to be alot of people wanting to do the same thing again. I can't say subs or dubs is better.. just differant.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:57 pm
Oh, that's a good point. I didn't think about written stuff. That's kind of a double-edged sword for dub companies, though. ADVFilms got into a lot of trouble with fans for removing Japanese text and replacing it with English. But if you leave it as is, no one understands it!! O____O Thankfully, Eureka Seven doesn't have many/any of those ever-so-exclusive written things that make no sense unless you live in Japan or have it explained to you. razz
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:58 pm
Hmm... Well... I guess it's true that is just the beginning of the Limit 'cause I mean... it doesn't seem that everyone was just obliterated right then.
Why would the Scubs deliberately kill the Disease survivors? o_O` Is that them bonding or whatever together or something? o_O`
Anyways... MAAN, I can't wait til next weeks episode. So many questions shall be answered! biggrin
And another thing, I really think the Nirvash is a dude, no matter what Kayako says. Eureka called the Nirvash "he" like five or more times! You'd think she would know this after all since ya know... she's Eureka. razz But I guess I'll have to wait til next week as well, too, for the Nirvash... does something. Dun wanna say what exactly for those who don't know.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:21 pm
ZE PROPHECY!!!! *slaps himself* oh sorry...
yeah rekk. I'm not really sure why the scubs would intentionally kill the dispair kids. It didn't make any sense. In fact last night was the first time I ever thought of it that way. Before I alway thought of it as more of a coincidence.
The little girl died because she was on a tower and the scubs were attacking a tower. will and his wife though didn't make sense. Not only are they not on a tower but Will had spent along time removing pile bunkers from the scub. Him dying seemed kinda backwards. As for the novak foundation. they don't actually show them die or even the debris being aimed at the building.
shrug.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:06 pm
Hmm... That is rather confusing. neutral You did notice how they opened their books before they all got hit, right? I think they might have been joining together with the scub, or something. Man... it's so weird!! O__O
Poor Jessica!! gonk
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:25 pm
Soren DeGali DumberDan awww c'mon, the english version!? c'mon! english dubs are no good! c'mon, i was done with eureka seveN ages ago, way back when you english dubz pplz were on episode memento morie! they screw with the voices and dialoge! and wheres the japanese reference notes!? Wheee, sweeping generalizations! xp Personally I think it depends on which version you watched first that determines which you think is better. Your first impression of how characters should sound and such ingraves it in your mind. Same thing happened with me and Bleach, although I still love the dub. My basic thought is... what exactly makes the original so holy? O___o I haven't really seen any severe problems with the dub so far. In fact, the subs I watched had so many doggoned errors in translation and consistency that I'm hazy on a lot of stuff, I think. At least with the dub, you're getting trained translators instead of a bunch of weeaboos, ya know? razz But believe me, Eureka Seven doesn't have nearly as much need for reference notes as a lot of other anime. After all, it's set in a fictional world that only had Japan in its history. There were very, very few reference notes in the episodes I watched, anyway. Where does this show need them? oh the reference notes, i was generalizing on the dubs. like for instance, somebody is talking about somebody, then it switches to the person being talked about, they sneeze. of course if some average kid were watching this in a dub, he'd be, m'kay, he sneezed...so? in japanese original format....REFERENCE NOTE!!!!!!! and about eureka seveN, i'm pissed that they censor out everything(i.e. cover of the golden baugh, c'mon its on ADULT swim! not TODDLER pool -_-, we've seen it already havent we?). i think censors are pointless and ruin the anime, its like spray painting the mona lisa, you ruin a work of art by marring its greatness. as for the voices. i saw a unique variation between the two voice actors of renton. i am sad to say, but renton in english sounds a lot like a wimp. in the japanese version he sounds, well, not so girly. unless thats how girly men sound in japan o_O. and also, holland, he sounds a lot cooler when hes pissed in japanese than in english, unless he sounds more pissed in english to the japanese o_O. the list can go on for the various anime and their dubs, but i wont go there...
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:32 pm
DumberDan oh the reference notes, i was generalizing on the dubs. like for instance, somebody is talking about somebody, then it switches to the person being talked about, they sneeze. of course if some average kid were watching this in a dub, he'd be, m'kay, he sneezed...so? in japanese original format....REFERENCE NOTE!!!!!!! and about eureka seveN, i'm pissed that they censor out everything(i.e. cover of the golden baugh, c'mon its on ADULT swim! not TODDLER pool -_-, we've seen it already havent we?). i think censors are pointless and ruin the anime, its like spray painting the mona lisa, you ruin a work of art by marring its greatness. as for the voices. i saw a unique variation between the two voice actors of renton. i am sad to say, but renton in english sounds a lot like a wimp. in the japanese version he sounds, well, not so girly. unless thats how girly men sound in japan o_O. and also, holland, he sounds a lot cooler when hes pissed in japanese than in english, unless he sounds more pissed in english to the japanese o_O. the list can go on for the various anime and their dubs, but i wont go there... That's a good point about the sneezing thing (that had completely slipped my mind). I only understood that because I'd seen reference notes in other anime shows. razz Did they really do much other censoring besides that part, though? I don't think I've noticed any, personally. Oh, and I gotta say, Holland in the Japanese version is voiced by the most awesome voice actor imaginable. razz I first heard him in Black Cat voicing Sven. I love that guy!! xd If you ask me, Holland's English voice is a bit forced and too gravelly (Crispin Freeman isn't really cut out for that role in my opinion). So yeah, the Japanese version is better for him at least, but for the rest of the cast, it's fairly good, I thought. But as for Renton... yeah, there's a little difference between the two versions. I didn't think it was too serious personally, but then again, I've never much cared for the voice actor who did him in the Japanese version (same person who did that one kid in Monster). I kinda think he sounds more like a kid in the Japanese version and just a wussy in the dub, so I lean toward the dub. razz
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