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Emily`s_Gone_Mad

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:34 pm


yeah, I can understand that.
I don't even own a telescope.
And this was my first time ever looking through one.
I know crazy.

I'm rather poor myself.
xP
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:37 pm


Emily`s_Gone_Mad
yeah, I can understand that.
I don't even own a telescope.
And this was my first time ever looking through one.
I know crazy.

I'm rather poor myself.
xP


My cousin has an electric Telescope with a list of all the known cosmic bodies that can be seen with it, you just type in the coordinance and there ya go. I would like something like that.

`Zeke


`Zeke

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:39 pm


I have to go for now, be back later.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:42 pm


Ooohh!

That's Fancy!

Emily`s_Gone_Mad


AFK Masturbating

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:42 pm


`Zeke
The first question I pose without anyone looking it up is your own opinion on what you think a black hole is? And do you think time travel is possible through it?


Excellent! I was just thinking of talking/asking of black holes here.

Aren't they collapsed stars at the end of their lives?

I remember seeing many movies and such suggesting that they are wormholes to other universes and the like. Though this may most likely be the province of science fiction until proven otherwise.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:57 pm


Emily`s_Gone_Mad
`Zeke
Ang Yi
There was a book fair in my university not long ago. I bought a book that tells me wat constelation will be on the sky depending where ever I am (any hemisphere), date and time. It also gives me information about different comets that will be visible in x year. What else? Oh, it shows me when the next lunar and solar eclipses will be and from where they will be visible.

Last total lunar eclipse was visible back home and some friends of my mother took pictures. It was beautiful!


Awesome surprised Do you recall the name of the book? I really want to get back into star gazing, and with new telescopes where I can just put in coordinantes, that book would be a lot of fun to have.

*takes a food break*



Oh yea! That is very cool!
yes, I'd like to know the name of the book too, although, I'm sure if you head out to your local book store you could probably find some really interesting books on Astronomy.



You're both gunna laugh your head off... The book is called "Children's Night Sky Atlas". Yeah for kids, but it's good! I can't find the other one, I seem to have way too many books in my apartment.

Ang Yi


Emily`s_Gone_Mad

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:25 pm


Celestia Whitesword
`Zeke
The first question I pose without anyone looking it up is your own opinion on what you think a black hole is? And do you think time travel is possible through it?


Excellent! I was just thinking of talking/asking of black holes here.

Aren't they collapsed stars at the end of their lives?

I remember seeing many movies and such suggesting that they are wormholes to other universes and the like. Though this may most likely be the province of science fiction until proven otherwise.


Yes black holes, I do believe form from the collapse of massive stars.

Black hole's are really just mind boggeling.
I belive that a black whole can be used as a transport ..like bending time...to time travel throught the universe.
However, I don't believe that you can time travel back to the past.
What is in the past is in the past. I guess that's a weird way of thinking, but I think you can shortcut through blackholes to the "future" but I don't think you could short cut back to the same time you originally started at.

So say...*tires to gather thoughts* that you "shortcut to the future through a blackhole, and then come back in the next few min, those min, would actually be like years that have past in the original place that you left.

humph, *thinks about what she wrote*
so, it wouldn't literally be like time traveling...it would be more of ....simply a shortcut through time - but like moving soo fast that time has no effects on you, but time would still pass outside of the blackhole.

Did that make any sence whatsoever.
XP
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:59 pm


Before I start saying anything else I should introduce myself:

I'm a senior at the University of Kansas (KU) majoring in Astronomy and Physics. I do active research pertaining to open cluster NGC 7142 and maintain the blog The Angry Astronomer.

Emily`s_Gone_Mad
I got to see Saturn the other day and let me tell ya....it was absolutley beautiful!
I occasionally take my telescope out on campus for public viewing. People are always amazed by Saturn. I can't even remember how many people now have asked me if that's real, or if I just have a sticker on the telescope.

Emily`s_Gone_Mad
Of course the Geminni being one of them cuz that's my sighn.
You do realize that it's not actually your sign. Due to the precession of Earth's orbit, nearly everyone's sign is about a full month off.

Emily`s_Gone_Mad
What magnification do you have?
Magnification isn't what's important for telescopes. It's resolution that matters. If you can't resolve something, it will just be a blur no matter how much you blow it up.

Ang Yi
There was a book fair in my university not long ago. I bought a book that tells me wat constelation will be on the sky depending where ever I am (any hemisphere), date and time. It also gives me information about different comets that will be visible in x year. What else? Oh, it shows me when the next lunar and solar eclipses will be and from where they will be visible.
Why buy a book? There's Free online programs that can show you the view of the sky at any time from anywhere in the world!

`Zeke
I have to go for now, be back later.
That's cheating. wink

Celestia Whitesword
I was just thinking of talking/asking of black holes here.

Aren't they collapsed stars at the end of their lives?
Yes. Only the most massive stars become black holes though.

In all stars, there is a constant battle between the inwards force of gravity and something keeping it up. In stars that are still undergoing fusion in their cores, the radiation (photons) provide this pressure. When a star dies, gravity starts to win. If the star isn't too massive, the atoms just bump up against one another and that holds them up (as electron degeneracy pressure for lighter stars, and neutron degeneracy pressure for the more massive ones)

But if the star is extremely massive (ie, core mass exceeding 1.4 times the mass of the sun, known as the Chandrasekhar limit), gravity overpowers this and no known force in the universe can stop gravity from collapsing it infinately.

As far as being a time portal, not really. While space and time does get highly distorted, you can't go through one. The tidal forces would get so strong, you'd be ripped apart and killed.

VoijaRisa


kitten22481
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:12 pm


I have always had a weird pull toward the Pleiades constellation. So much so that I almost named my first born child after one of the stars in the cluster.

Pleiades
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:50 pm


@Voija--> yeah there were some people that didn't believe it was real either and actually I don't know much about telescopes.
I've never owned one or even looked through one.
This past week was my first experience.
But I feel modivated to get my own and that's good to know about resolution (makes sence), but magnification has to matter also...doesn't it?

*about black holes* but what if you were in a machine strong enough to witstand such forces?
xd

Emily`s_Gone_Mad


Emily`s_Gone_Mad

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:52 pm


A black hole could tear you apart, but also couldn't it just as well spit you back out in another demension back together again?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:12 am


`Zeke
The first question I pose without anyone looking it up is your own opinion on what you think a black hole is? And do you think time travel is possible through it?

I've heard it was made of something called phantom matter when a star explodes and the compression is so great, It creates a very thick density. I wonder how it can suck up light....That would be cool to see!! Also did you know that a white hole does the exact oppisite? Its never been witnessed but scientests know its out there!

Sun Charm
Vice Captain


`Zeke

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:25 am


VoijaRisa
Before I start saying anything else I should introduce myself:

I'm a senior at the University of Kansas (KU) majoring in Astronomy and Physics. I do active research pertaining to open cluster NGC 7142 and maintain the blog The Angry Astronomer.


You will definietly make this thread interesting. I welcome you.

*lacks such knowledge as to what cluster NGC 7142 i* eek
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:29 am


@Sun--> White hole?

Emily`s_Gone_Mad


`Zeke

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:32 am


You're both gunna laugh your head off... The book is called "Children's Night Sky Atlas". Yeah for kids, but it's good! I can't find the other one, I seem to have way too many books in my apartment.

Lol Atleast I'll know what section to search for in the book store.

Why buy a book? There's Free online programs that can show you the view of the sky at any time from anywhere in the world!

A book I can take with me (Yes I could just print something out.) But the computer always seems to be the answer to anyones question. Let us not forget our dear friend the handy book.
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