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[BlkCat]

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:52 pm


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It's all so hard to tell what's real based off of an Internet video. You're better off just using it as inspiration as opposed to "proof".



Thats the part that sucks, I'm actually planning on trying to set up a small website where I could have a live feed for my webcam, show my entire room, and the entire work area so people can know there are no tricks, cover my face completely and keep my hands, face and wheel in the picture at all times so that there can be no other explanation.

So far thats the only way I could think to truly prove it via a video.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:21 pm


[BlkCat]
Obscurus
It's all so hard to tell what's real based off of an Internet video. You're better off just using it as inspiration as opposed to "proof".


Thats the part that sucks, I'm actually planning on trying to set up a small website where I could have a live feed for my webcam, show my entire room, and the entire work area so people can know there are no tricks, cover my face completely and keep my hands, face and wheel in the picture at all times so that there can be no other explanation.

So far thats the only way I could think to truly prove it via a video.


I'm for the inspiration. If you want proof, do it yourself! At least that was my attitude.

[BlkCat]

Actually, because I've been practicing energy manipulation since I was 10 years old, they both came quite easy to me. Funny thing is, I haven't tried psiballs or telekinesis until just recently, in fact that video was my first attempt. (And yes, to fully clarify, that video is me.)


I tried it for the first time about two months ago (bearing in mind I've practised magic and meditated for years) and I've had no problem with telekinesis... but the psiballs aren't great. They die as soon as I take my concentration off them for a second. Or else just die

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:39 pm


[BlkCat]
Obscurus
It's all so hard to tell what's real based off of an Internet video. You're better off just using it as inspiration as opposed to "proof".



Thats the part that sucks, I'm actually planning on trying to set up a small website where I could have a live feed for my webcam, show my entire room, and the entire work area so people can know there are no tricks, cover my face completely and keep my hands, face and wheel in the picture at all times so that there can be no other explanation.

So far thats the only way I could think to truly prove it via a video.


There will always be someone saying that you have air blowing on it or a microfilament or something else. It really is impossible to conclusively prove it in a video, especially over the Internet in the age of digital manipulation.

Most people don't even believe it when they see it in person.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:34 pm


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[BlkCat]
Obscurus
It's all so hard to tell what's real based off of an Internet video. You're better off just using it as inspiration as opposed to "proof".



Thats the part that sucks, I'm actually planning on trying to set up a small website where I could have a live feed for my webcam, show my entire room, and the entire work area so people can know there are no tricks, cover my face completely and keep my hands, face and wheel in the picture at all times so that there can be no other explanation.

So far thats the only way I could think to truly prove it via a video.


There will always be someone saying that you have air blowing on it or a microfilament or something else. It really is impossible to conclusively prove it in a video, especially over the Internet in the age of digital manipulation.

Most people don't even believe it when they see it in person.


Really good points. I have this friend of whom her back I healed, she freaked out, even lost consciousness for a second, yet still says there must have been some trick to it or something and doesn't believe it actually happened(even though she admits that the pain was completely gone and hasn't come back since). So yea....skeptics XD.

[BlkCat]


Miss Randa

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:07 pm


I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:24 am


[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was

Greeneyed_falcon


Miss Randa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:13 pm


Greeneyed_falcon
[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was


Interesting how that works huh?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:25 pm


[silvercs]
Greeneyed_falcon
[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.


[BlkCat]


Miss Randa

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:40 pm


I totaly agree.

I got in a few spiffs specifically about the otherkin/ vampire stuff. I just don't either A) fully understand it or B) believe in it.

Erm, is it paganism that outdates christianity? Even though pagan is a very broad term. Humans have always feared the eternal, no matter what sort of cavemen they were. The fear of a high controlling being on a moral concious person is always going to be there.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:51 pm


[silvercs]
I totaly agree.

I got in a few spiffs specifically about the otherkin/ vampire stuff. I just don't either A) fully understand it or B) believe in it.

Erm, is it paganism that outdates christianity? Even though pagan is a very broad term. Humans have always feared the eternal, no matter what sort of cavemen they were. The fear of a high controlling being on a moral concious person is always going to be there.



As for not understanding otherkin/vampirism, what is it you don't understand? I can clear things up for ya easy if you want =P.

Paganism in it's general term pre-dates Christianity, however there are pagan religions that do not. Such as Wicca, and Thelema(I'm a Thelemite).

[BlkCat]


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:01 pm


[BlkCat]
[silvercs]
Greeneyed_falcon
[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.



I personally try to tell if what they're talking about has any basis at all in any texts I've read. I'm especially skeptical of kids claiming to do alchemy with circles or whatever it's called.

If you read any legit alchemical text you're not going to find anything about circles being able to transmute anything. Most of them don't even know what the Emerald Tablet is.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:08 pm


Obscurus
[BlkCat]
[silvercs]
Greeneyed_falcon
[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.



I personally try to tell if what they're talking about has any basis at all in any texts I've read. I'm especially skeptical of kids claiming to do alchemy with circles or whatever it's called.

If you read any legit alchemical text you're not going to find anything about circles being able to transmute anything. Most of them don't even know what the Emerald Tablet is.


Yep, that too. ESPECIALLY the alchemy part, if you go to www.levity.com/alchemy/

I promise, you wont find any FMA circles there XD.

[BlkCat]


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:44 pm


[BlkCat]
Obscurus
[BlkCat]
[silvercs]
Greeneyed_falcon
[silvercs]
I'm actually a huge skeptic, thats why I honestly don't post as much... D: I read some topics and automatically it goes into the 'bullshit file" in my head, so I don't bother.

But Telekenisis (sp?) is somthing I would be greatly interested in.


Sometimes its good to have an active "bullshit file" as you say. If you are interested try it yourself... that way, in a few months, you'll have irrefutable proof that its possible and you can do it. Or else you'll think you are losing your mind....which isn't fun, so think carefully about that one! One of the kids in my school seriously scared herself last year.

Interesting, some of the most avid Pagans and Psychics, have also been the biggest skeptics I have come across. I always wondered why that was


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.



I personally try to tell if what they're talking about has any basis at all in any texts I've read. I'm especially skeptical of kids claiming to do alchemy with circles or whatever it's called.

If you read any legit alchemical text you're not going to find anything about circles being able to transmute anything. Most of them don't even know what the Emerald Tablet is.


Yep, that too. ESPECIALLY the alchemy part, if you go to www.levity.com/alchemy/

I promise, you wont find any FMA circles there XD.


I'm actually taking a home study course on alchemy from Flamel College. There are a lot of interesting texts included, most around 400 or so years old. Book of Lambsprinck, Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers, and exerpts from the Corpus Hermeticum. And of course, a copy of the Emerald Tablet.

I'm overall satisfied with it.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:48 pm


Obscurus
[BlkCat]
Obscurus
[BlkCat]
[silvercs]


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.



I personally try to tell if what they're talking about has any basis at all in any texts I've read. I'm especially skeptical of kids claiming to do alchemy with circles or whatever it's called.

If you read any legit alchemical text you're not going to find anything about circles being able to transmute anything. Most of them don't even know what the Emerald Tablet is.


Yep, that too. ESPECIALLY the alchemy part, if you go to www.levity.com/alchemy/

I promise, you wont find any FMA circles there XD.


I'm actually taking a home study course on alchemy from Flamel College. There are a lot of interesting texts included, most around 400 or so years old. Book of Lambsprinck, Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers, and exerpts from the Corpus Hermeticum. And of course, a copy of the Emerald Tablet.

I'm overall satisfied with it.


Wow o.o, how much does a course like that cost? I'm quite interested.

[BlkCat]


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:56 pm


[BlkCat]
Obscurus
[BlkCat]
Obscurus
[BlkCat]
[silvercs]


Interesting how that works huh?


How it works with me is, I'll believe somebody no matter what they say as long as they don't raise red flags.

Red flags can be(but not limited too):

A person claiming to be a "vampire" and their favorite tv shows include: Buffy, Blood+, Trinity Blood, ect.

A person saying they are "part" vampire.

A person saying they were turned into a vampire/otherkin <--- MAJOR red flag.

An emo who claims to be any form of otherkin/vampire. They tend to be cronic attention whores and need to DIE (sorry, I hate emos).

Claiming Wicca pre-dates Christianity (lawl)

Claiming that the astral plane looks just like your physical plane's usual major cities with cars and coffee shops and libraries in every city, once again...another major red flag.

If you claim you physically shift <-- once again....live webcam footage or it didnt happen, if you're a shapeshifter and dont have the money for a webcam, something is ******** up there.

If you claim you are almighty or can do anything(this goes beyond fluffies on the physical plane and goes for the Gods and Goddess' of the planes beyond us, you are not almighty, and if you are, prove it by making an object so large and heavy that even you cannot move it....either way...you're full of fluff and stuff).

You love the show charmed....ok...I personally think the show is written by 4 year olds, but it's not a major red flag, but definitely something that rises suspicion.

These are just a few things that prove that you CAN figure out who is bullshit and who isn't, and those claiming that you just can't ever tell...are probably fluff balls who don't want to be found out.



I personally try to tell if what they're talking about has any basis at all in any texts I've read. I'm especially skeptical of kids claiming to do alchemy with circles or whatever it's called.

If you read any legit alchemical text you're not going to find anything about circles being able to transmute anything. Most of them don't even know what the Emerald Tablet is.


Yep, that too. ESPECIALLY the alchemy part, if you go to www.levity.com/alchemy/

I promise, you wont find any FMA circles there XD.


I'm actually taking a home study course on alchemy from Flamel College. There are a lot of interesting texts included, most around 400 or so years old. Book of Lambsprinck, Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers, and exerpts from the Corpus Hermeticum. And of course, a copy of the Emerald Tablet.

I'm overall satisfied with it.


Wow o.o, how much does a course like that cost? I'm quite interested.


I bought all 7 modules at once so I got a discount; it was $495ish.
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