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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:33 pm
Pirpi-Chan yey for back to the future and harry potter references.. domokun Awww, don't leave off the Marx Brothers reference! HAIL HAIL FREEDONIA! Go out and rent Duck Soup. Anyway, is it just me or does Christina Cole (the younger witch...forgot her name in the episode) have a nice similarity to Mary Tamm (Romana I)....made me feel reminiscy-happy.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:36 pm
I had pretty low expectations going into this one, but it actually ended up being rather enjoyable. Most of the references to Shakespeare's plays went over my head, but I liked the pop culture references, like when the Doctor used Back to the Future as an example of how time is in flux.
I didn't like the witch make-up though. It looked kind of cheesy.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:43 pm
Hairy Priest I didn't like the witch make-up though. It looked kind of cheesy. You say that like most everything else in Doctor Who ISN'T cheesy. heart I mean...Daleks? Tin cans with plungers stuck in em. You've got to love the cheese.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:44 pm
Kaidan Hairy Priest I didn't like the witch make-up though. It looked kind of cheesy. You say that like most everything else in Doctor Who ISN'T cheesy. heart I mean...Daleks? Tin cans with plungers stuck in em. You've got to love the cheese. Maybe. I still think the witches didn't look effective. Not that they had to be more hideous or scary or whatever. I just didn't want them to look so... fake. razz Queen Liz reminded me of Davros, for some reason. I hope someday we'll see what the Doctor did to piss her off. Then again, I'm still waiting to see the terrible Zodin... Another passing reference to the Eternals in this episode. Last mentioned in Army of Ghosts. A bit of foreshadowing, perhaps?
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:13 pm
There was a reference to them in Army of Ghosts? I think I spaced over that one.
Foreshadowing I HOPE. XD
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:31 pm
Yeah, the quote in AoG was: "Imagine that. Nothing. No light, no dark, no up, no down. No life. No time. Without end. My people call it the void, the Eternals call it the Howling. But some people call it hell".
This week it was... Doctor: The Carrionites vanished. Where did you go? Lilith: The Eternals found the right word to banish us into deep darkness...
Interesting that both times the Eternals are mentioned, it's in relation to the darkness (the Void or whatever).
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:52 am
Hairy Priest Yeah, the quote in AoG was: "Imagine that. Nothing. No light, no dark, no up, no down. No life. No time. Without end. My people call it the void, the Eternals call it the Howling. But some people call it hell". This week it was... Doctor: The Carrionites vanished. Where did you go? Lilith: The Eternals found the right word to banish us into deep darkness... Interesting that both times the Eternals are mentioned, it's in relation to the darkness (the Void or whatever). Or you know, it could be a coincidence. XD
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:29 am
I loved it, but sat there twitching at points all the same.
whee I knew they wouldn't pass up a chance to comment on Shakespeare's sexuality. But if they'd been doing that they might as well have been more stringent in their use of "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?". I didn't like the idea of Martha as the dark lady, though I thought it was clever, and that sonnet was directed to a young man! Talk about recycling. D;
I've been studying Shakespeare for school, so I'm just being nitpicky.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:58 am
Just be thankful they brought Shakespeare in before Jack showed up. I haven't seen it yet, anyway. Dare I ask who ol' Willie Shakespeare's been hitting on? Besides Martha, I've got that bit.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:29 am
Hairy Priest Yeah, the quote in AoG was: "Imagine that. Nothing. No light, no dark, no up, no down. No life. No time. Without end. My people call it the void, the Eternals call it the Howling. But some people call it hell". AHA! That's RIGHT! I did notice that. lol Hairy Priest Interesting that both times the Eternals are mentioned, it's in relation to the darkness (the Void or whatever). This is just going to rile up all those "LET'S BRING ROSE BACK" people. XD
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:55 am
Kaidan Hairy Priest Yeah, the quote in AoG was: "Imagine that. Nothing. No light, no dark, no up, no down. No life. No time. Without end. My people call it the void, the Eternals call it the Howling. But some people call it hell". AHA! That's RIGHT! I did notice that. lol Hairy Priest Interesting that both times the Eternals are mentioned, it's in relation to the darkness (the Void or whatever). This is just going to rile up all those "LET'S BRING ROSE BACK" people. XD Rose is gone. It's a good thing. The doc whould get over it, i mean, it's been almost a year...
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:55 am
I thought this was a good episode, but the fast-pacedness of the show today makes telling a good concise full-circle story impossible. Im sure an extra 15 minutes of screentime could have made this story a Doctor Who gem. But now the Doctor knows-all. He comes on scene, and instantly knows whats going on and how to solve it. We never stop to think. The Doctor never has to work it out... theres always a quick fix. That's weak. crying
The explanations to the witch's powers was nothing more than a fob-off. The use fo a voodoo doll was a simple terminology recite with no conenction to its use in the story at all.
So this gets a 4/5 for the script defects.
(Im a scriptwriter and so I notice little things like this)
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:35 pm
I loved it! It made shakespeare cool! (that's a thing i thought I'd never say) I agree it was abit of a dodgy explanation for the witches, but hey. I noticed the reference to the eternals too. Loved the HP-ness! What an advert for the next book that was!
But I fear next week is just going to be a huge bowl of cheese, with the whole secret message, 'you are not alone' I bet, thing.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:59 pm
That was pretty fun! Oh, and by the way, Love's Labour's Won! Found it yesterday while looking up all sorts of things about Hamlet, the First Folio, and Shakespeare apocrypha.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:24 am
I still think this episode pwned the series 2 finale. They shouldn't have done that. The Satan Pit should have been the finale as originally planned. Shakespeare Code - despite its flaws, came close to the Visitation on the period episodes in my eyes.
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