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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:56 pm
akamai_hi I think Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. Like I have seen many other SasuSaku debators say, if Naruto still feels the same way for Sasuke after 2.5 years, why can't Sakura? Their feelings, although different, are intense for him and I think Sakura still shows this in part two. With Naruto it's more clear, because he's the main character and his bond with Sasuke's seems to be the most important in the manga (at least, from what I can see. The other bonds are pretty important, but I think because Naruto and Sasuke are rivals and that rivalary and love for each other at times drive the story a lot, it's pretty important). Sakura doesn't need to tell anyone who has ears that she's in love with Sasuke. She's concentrating on saving Sasuke along with Naruto, so I think romance with anyone for her comes way after that goal.
-kind of going on a tangent- I'm not sure, but I think after chapter 181 was when Sakura began to really understand Sasuke. I knew she understood him before (she knew he was leaving to Sound when no one else did for one), but some things in part II makes me believe that. When Sakura punches out Sai, she says to him, "You don't know a damned thing about Sasuke-kun" and she also mentioned researching Sasuke's past, which gives her a better view on him. Another point is that Sakura has also learned that crying won't bring Sasuke back, because she did a lot of that in part one.
As nightmisstress said in the most recent chapters Sasuke seems to be the pretty same guy. He was putting on a front in the early 300s (I mean, he defeated Oro...not so very loyal to him, is he?). That was the Sasuke Sakura fell in love with, and the Sasuke who was Naruto's self-described brother and best friend. I forgot who mentioned it in this thread, but I agree that if Naruto's feelings for Sakura can stay and Hinata's for Naruto can stay, then Sakura's have definitely stayed. I mean, she's the one who confessed her feelings by, "squeezing the words out of her throat" and her passion for him was described as "unchanging" (as the databook says). I think it's pretty safe to say that her feelings are able to stay.
Now...to finish eating my dinner...
I agree 100% with everything you just said. -Firm nod- I couldn't have said it any better myself~
You and nightmistress are <3. And mingzhu.. and Sireta.. okay, you're all <3.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:36 pm
Nice posts you guys!
I think Sakura still loves Sasuke. Although all of my points has already been stated.... But obviously Sakura saw something in Sasuke that she started to cling to and love.In my opinion Sakura love for Sasuke represents what motivates the part of her who wants to protect her precious people. Thats why i think her love for him couldn't die off so easily.
Yes, in the early 300's Sakura was probably hurt as to how much Sasuke has "change"(which he hasn't that much as seen in recent chapters). Which made her more little more depress than she already is. When she hears what 'Sasuke' doing now, she'll first question all the things he said to team 7 back then. Put two and two together, I think Sakura would feel relieve and her feelings would probably be more apparent after.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:40 pm
akamai_hi I think Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. Like I have seen many other SasuSaku debators say, if Naruto still feels the same way for Sasuke after 2.5 years, why can't Sakura? Their feelings, although different, are intense for him and I think Sakura still shows this in part two. With Naruto it's more clear, because he's the main character and his bond with Sasuke's seems to be the most important in the manga (at least, from what I can see. The other bonds are pretty important, but I think because Naruto and Sasuke are rivals and that rivalary and love for each other at times drive the story a lot, it's pretty important). Sakura doesn't need to tell anyone who has ears that she's in love with Sasuke. She's concentrating on saving Sasuke along with Naruto, so I think romance with anyone for her comes way after that goal.
-kind of going on a tangent- I'm not sure, but I think after chapter 181 was when Sakura began to really understand Sasuke. I knew she understood him before (she knew he was leaving to Sound when no one else did for one), but some things in part II makes me believe that. When Sakura punches out Sai, she says to him, "You don't know a damned thing about Sasuke-kun" and she also mentioned researching Sasuke's past, which gives her a better view on him. Another point is that Sakura has also learned that crying won't bring Sasuke back, because she did a lot of that in part one.
As nightmisstress said in the most recent chapters Sasuke seems to be the pretty same guy. He was putting on a front in the early 300s (I mean, he defeated Oro...not so very loyal to him, is he?). That was the Sasuke Sakura fell in love with, and the Sasuke who was Naruto's self-described brother and best friend. I forgot who mentioned it in this thread, but I agree that if Naruto's feelings for Sakura can stay and Hinata's for Naruto can stay, then Sakura's have definitely stayed. I mean, she's the one who confessed her feelings by, "squeezing the words out of her throat" and her passion for him was described as "unchanging" (as the databook says). I think it's pretty safe to say that her feelings are able to stay.
Now...to finish eating my dinner...
''I couldn't have said it better myself'' like kairi-chan said
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:41 pm
Very good points guys! Sakura's romantic feelings were the strongest out of everyone's. How ironic it would be for the people with crushes to keep their feelings for 3 years, yet her actual genuine feelings of love would be no longer. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it sounds.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:26 pm
nightmistress85 Kishi's already shown that Sakura definitely has strong romantic feelings of love for Sasuke though. I'm not saying that guarantees a pairing in the end or 100% establishes her feelings today, but with this series I've found it more reliable to go with what's been established until it is confirmed otherwise. Since he hasn't had Sakura say outright how it is, I'm going to assume it's the same context as it was before.
(And when he's done with revenge, he'll be wanting to make babies and nothing else. XD)
I'd like to think that Sakura has a 50-50 chance of feeling the same way about Sasuke even after all these years. For sure, she wants to get him back, but whether if it's for the sake of her hope to be with him, or for the sake of him being safe within Konoha, we don't know. It could be one or the other, it could be neither, it could be both.
As for the databook, it does say that her feelings are "unchanging." It would be pretty sad to see that after 2.5 years, her feelings didn't remain unchanged. Sakura's a pretty loyal person - I think that it's either she still loves Sasuke, or no one at all. Whether or not she's going to fall for Naruto is pretty much far off into the future, and unlikely at that. It's possible, but not likely as of the moment.
And I agree with nightmistress-san about Sakura's romantic feelings being the strongest. It was her romantic feelings that were more focused on, rather on Naruto's (because the focus on him was about his improvement) or on any other character who has ever shown romantic feelings for someone. Not even Kurenai, who eventually ended up with Asuma, had her feelings placed on such a spotlight given to Sakura's. It would certainly be ironic if Sakura's feelings would just vanish when it's been focused on for the better part of her place in the story.
Lastly, I'd just like to say that Sakura's main goal when they first met as Team 7 was to be with Sasuke. Naruto's goal to become Hokage hasn't changed (only sidetracked to catching Sasuke first, THEN become Hokage), and Sasuke's goal hasn't changed either. There should be no reason why Sakura's main goal, and the feelings that accompany them, would change.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:21 am
Tenshi no Hana-chan Oh, I know for sure that Sakura HAS shown romantic feelings towards Sasuke... in Part I, that is. But Part II hasn't given anything clear about anyone's feelings, except probably Naruto's. We don't know for sure if Naruto's truly in love with her, or it's just a crush. As for Sasuke, who knows what the guy is thinking besides revenge? He's just a onetrack-minded human time bomb under that pretty face, anyway. I definitely agree that Kishi hasn't done anything to erase doubt in our minds from a lot of aspects in the romance dept, however he commonly puts doubt in this series only to show things really haven't changed. Since I'm not a psychic I definitely can't say what is or isn't for sure. I'm just going to follow his writing style and trends for what I'll keep faith in until he confirms or reaffirms things. As for Naruto, it's the same way. Nothing's shown me that he feels more for her romantically than a crush so I'll keep with that until we know for sure that it's something more. As for Sasuke, he's one track minded in goals, but I think he couldn't really get rid of those bonds. The kid has a heart and that makes it difficult to forget precious people. Also makes it difficult for him to go further than necessary, like with killing for no reason. Quote: (And when he's done with revenge, he'll be wanting to make babies and nothing else. XD) Sasuke actually does love people so I think he'll probably want more of a family than to just make little versions of himself. I can see him helping out Naruto too. I just want him to find peace when this is over and Naruto and Sakura gave that to him. I want team 7 back together and kickin' a** damnit! scream I swear that moment's going to be soooo great. Like the best in all bloody manga! I'm feelin' all warm and fuzzy about team 7 now. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:06 am
akamai_hi I think Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. Like I have seen many other SasuSaku debators say, if Naruto still feels the same way for Sasuke after 2.5 years, why can't Sakura? Their feelings, although different, are intense for him and I think Sakura still shows this in part two. With Naruto it's more clear, because he's the main character and his bond with Sasuke's seems to be the most important in the manga (at least, from what I can see. The other bonds are pretty important, but I think because Naruto and Sasuke are rivals and that rivalary and love for each other at times drive the story a lot, it's pretty important). Sakura doesn't need to tell anyone who has ears that she's in love with Sasuke. She's concentrating on saving Sasuke along with Naruto, so I think romance with anyone for her comes way after that goal.
-kind of going on a tangent- I'm not sure, but I think after chapter 181 was when Sakura began to really understand Sasuke. I knew she understood him before (she knew he was leaving to Sound when no one else did for one), but some things in part II makes me believe that. When Sakura punches out Sai, she says to him, "You don't know a damned thing about Sasuke-kun" and she also mentioned researching Sasuke's past, which gives her a better view on him. Another point is that Sakura has also learned that crying won't bring Sasuke back, because she did a lot of that in part one.
As nightmisstress said in the most recent chapters Sasuke seems to be the pretty same guy. He was putting on a front in the early 300s (I mean, he defeated Oro...not so very loyal to him, is he?). That was the Sasuke Sakura fell in love with, and the Sasuke who was Naruto's self-described brother and best friend. I forgot who mentioned it in this thread, but I agree that if Naruto's feelings for Sakura can stay and Hinata's for Naruto can stay, then Sakura's have definitely stayed. I mean, she's the one who confessed her feelings by, "squeezing the words out of her throat" and her passion for him was described as "unchanging" (as the databook says). I think it's pretty safe to say that her feelings are able to stay.
Now...to finish eating my dinner... I do agree with most of what you said. I don't doubt that Sakura still has some feelings for Sasuke, but I don't think they are as before. In my opinion, I think that Sakura lost some of that love she once felt. Sasuke's betryal has left great dissapointment in her to the person she once knew. To have witnessed him, choosing to betray his teammates and hurt them for power and ambition is something that scarred her. And not just her, Naruto as well. Sakura loved Sasuke deeply but in love there's also admiration. She admires Sasuke's strength to withstand the sad childhood he had, but after he betrayed everyone then, the admiration is gone. Sakura wants to save Sasuke for both her and Naruto's sake. That's her priority. Romance and love will come afterwards. Like I said, her feelings are still there I mean, you can't forget about someone you've loved so strongly in just 2 yrs, but I don't think they are as they once were. After all, Sakura is willing to do anything to bring Sasuke back. Even if it means fighting him.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:46 am
^Nice point. ^.^
I know I'm going to sound crazy, but I don't think the strong, feeling that Sakura had for Sasuke died down. Maybe after a while she's grown fonder (yeah, probably a lot disagree with this). Sasuke's choice for revenge did scar her and Naruto, but they only became stronger because of it. Remember that after Sakura failed to make Sasuke stay in Konoha she thought only Naruto could do it. After Naruto's failure that's where I agree with you, that she probably lost some of that love, but I think her feelings actually stayed strong again when Naruto gave her hope and she decided to help save the one that betrayed her along with him.
I think the fact that Sakura chooses to still save Sasuke after all he has done is a reason why the love hasn't died down. If it died down I think she would seem a little more...disheartened to help save him. Even after their failure to save Sasuke in the early 300s she still believed they would retrieve him. If the love had died down I think she would act like she did after she first heard outside of Naruto's hospital door that he failed to save Sasuke (the sad, "he's gone..." look she got xD). Sakura seems to spend a lot of time researching on him after their failure after chapter 310, instead of sitting down and crying about it all the time as she did when she was younger (well, she still does cry, but now she does her part), which is another reason why I think her love has stayed strong, or even grown. Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is another good example of this--Sasuke tried to kill Naruto during the vote fight, put a chidori through his chest, and Naruto's love for him has not died down. He does not seem bitter at all. He actually refuses to give up on Sasuke, and thinks about him constantly when he's training. Quote: Yes, in the early 300's Sakura was probably hurt as to how much Sasuke has "change"(which he hasn't that much as seen in recent chapters). Which made her more little more depress than she already is. When she hears what 'Sasuke' doing now, she'll first question all the things he said to team 7 back then. Put two and two together, I think Sakura would feel relieve and her feelings would probably be more apparent after.
Annnd this took twice as long as it was supposed to because I was typing with gloves on. Don't ask why I had the gloves on.
Thanks for compliments on other post. smile
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:34 pm
SAKUSASU <3
For this pairing to work. Yes Sakura must liike Sasuke.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:32 pm
I'm not going to read all of the posts. But if Naruto's feelings for Sasuke are the same, why aren't Sakura's? If Naruto's feelings for Sakura and Hinata's for Naruto are still there, why can't Sakura's for Sasuke still be there?
They ARE there.
No, I don't think she's falling for Naruto. I don't think Kishi would develop Sakura's feelings for Sasuke so much, have Naruto accept them [hospital scene, promise of a lifetime, and even when they were against Gaara: "Save Sakura no matter what!"], all for something like NaruSaku to happen in the end.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:06 am
excuse any typos, for I did this in a rush--
For Sakura, Sasuke has always been her drive. To first impress him, she became stronger. Gradually her resolve changed so that she could become stronger for her team, but a good portion of her drive still came from Sasuke.
I won't say that Sakura will end up with Sasuke for sure, but I presume that Sakura still holds some intense feelings for Sasuke. What did this for me in the timeskip, what convinced me, was that one wide-eyed look Sakura gave Sasuke when she saw him again. Kishimoto dedicated an entire page to her reaction; up until then, I had been unsure- what should I expect from Sakura when she came face-to-face with Sasuke? What would her reaction be like?
In the end, I always keep faith by thinking- Kishimoto has developed Sakura around her feelings, her passion and devotion to Sasuke and Team 7, why would he discontinue them. I personally don't think it is possible for Sakura to ever loathe Sasuke.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:53 am
I really want to respond, but I am much too lazy. >>
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:20 am
i m o g e n I personally don't think it is possible for Sakura to ever loathe Sasuke. Of course not. I mean, Naruto doesn't loathe Sasuke and Sasuke almost killed him. None would loathe Sasuke. They both know that ambition got the best of him. But I sill think that there's dissapointment in Sakura towards Sasuke. And is understadable.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:30 pm
underworld-girl i m o g e n I personally don't think it is possible for Sakura to ever loathe Sasuke. Of course not. I mean, Naruto doesn't loathe Sasuke and Sasuke almost killed him. None would loathe Sasuke. They both know that ambition got the best of him. But I sill think that there's dissapointment in Sakura towards Sasuke. And is understadable. Sure she's disappointed (somewhat in him and somewhat for him), but she also understands the situation and still defends him. I don't think she would decide not to love him anymore because of this. And when she hears the news of what's happened, that's bound to give her even more faith. Basically, I don't see her disappointment as a strike against the pairing.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:35 pm
nightmistress85 underworld-girl i m o g e n I personally don't think it is possible for Sakura to ever loathe Sasuke. Of course not. I mean, Naruto doesn't loathe Sasuke and Sasuke almost killed him. None would loathe Sasuke. They both know that ambition got the best of him. But I sill think that there's dissapointment in Sakura towards Sasuke. And is understadable. Sure she's disappointed (somewhat in him and somewhat for him), but she also understands the situation and still defends him. I don't think she would decide not to love him anymore because of this. And when she hears the news of what's happened, that's bound to give her even more faith. Basically, I don't see her disappointment as a strike against the pairing. Naruto's disappointed in him too. So is Kakashi and everyone else in Konoha. :/ But that hasn't changed their opinions of him at all.
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