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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:14 am
kittylin I don't think she meant it as an attack on anybody, but more like she saw this as a good place to vent when the whole world seems to be saying you're a judgmental ignorant self-righteous jerkwad for believing that homosexuality isn't part of God's plan. And not based on how you treat those struggling with homosexuality, but simply because you believe it's wrong. If that's the case here, I can empathize. thank you.. ^^
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:26 am
I appreciate that you didn't intend to attack anyone, pineapplepony10. I was just concerned that those who suffer from same-sex attraction who might be in this guild (and for anyone on either side to say you can't be Mormon and have this condition is a false dichotomy) might feel attacked.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:04 pm
Homosexuality is a big thing for me personally for certain reasons. I really don't know if I see it right or wrong really. Majority of my friends are bi or gay and I love them and knowing that they are that way does not change that persons personality and loving character.
I hate when people are good friends with someone but then they cut them off just because they are invovled in homosexuality. That is not a true friend because the person is still the same, the same person you liked and became friends. I hate hate hate when people do that.
I kind of don't see it wrong because actually some people can stop themself. Some are just gay. It is not their fault if they seem more intrested in guys than girls. Believe me I have had guy friends who have tried so hard to not be gay but they just can't stop it because they aren't attracted to women at all. Also some of my friends past have changed them. Like how about all the people who have been raped homosexually. Those people usually turn gay because they went through with it.
Homosexuality really doesn't change the person they are, it was who they have always been but now they share who they are to everyone. Oh and also gay guys are adorable, they are great helpers and they know what your feeling when your down-sometimes better than the normal stubborn men around here.
Well that's my opinion
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:02 pm
Wow...that's a really good story. Really....it makes sense, and I know many people in that situation.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:03 pm
Literally, thank you so much for your testimony. You have no idea how much it is to see someone post something like this and show your testimony. I see so many gay guilds and threads and anything like that, I think, why do they have to have so much pride in something that is completely wrong? I guess I don't get it. I keep starting to think that there are no one who are thinking the right way anymore. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:41 am
pineapplepony10 My Testimony... I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. A Mormon. I believe that Homosexuality is wrong on all levels. Most Lesbians/Gays have no intention of ever getting married. Love's ultimate goal is in Marriage and to share what God has entrusted us with to bring his beloved children to earth by having a child. To use our emotions in ways to turn Gods will in another direction is wrong and a mockery to something sacred. YOU WILL NOT FIND WHAT YOU SEEK. Any other expression of this deepest feeling of love is wrong and I will not accept it and I will not tolerate it! It is wicked and corrupt! I know that wickedness never was happiness. Member of my church or not I know for a FACT that this is wrong. If Gay is not wrong, Can you see Jesus being gay and accept it to be alright?!?!?! I don't care how stupid I sound! I don't care how different I am! I don't care if I'm the last on earth to believe in God AND believe that Homosexuality is wrong! I make this into a big deal because it IS a big deal! I am sickened and offended when God is pushed away and that the REAL right is something other than what is it. THERE IS NO GREY! The line between Right and Wrong is THERE! and it is deffinate in every way. You can not believe in god and follow temptation. "You can not serve two masters" Do I sound like a preacher? lol!! Preacher or not these words come from my heart! and I will not take them back. I haven't read all the way through this topic yet, and do not have time to, but I can say a few interesting things about this topic. Before I do, I should mention that I served my mission in Las Vegas, dubbed the city of sin. You don't even want to know some of the things that go on there. Anyways.... I do not have anything against someone who is homosexual - HOWEVER - I am completely against the act of homosexuality. I know alot of otherwise good people who are confused by what the world has told them about what is OK. Some of these people are so thoroughly entrenched that they don't believe they can change. They want to, but are stuck. They have been labelled as homosexual, and therefore feel that they must remain homosexual. I had a couple of gay investigators that I taught on my mission, (and yes, it was awkward at times) that honestly wanted to do what was right but couldn't find the strength to do so. Hate the act, not the person.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:23 am
i actully have a sister who is bi and a lot of my friends are bi the way i see it . if they really love each other then why is it so wrong , i mean of corse its wrong to us straight kidsi mean reall it digusts me, but i egnore it because thats thier decision.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:20 am
It is their decision -- not necessarily whether or not to be gay or bi but definitely whether or not to act on it.
What's wrong -- from the standpoint of LDS doctrine -- is that they are using the gift of procreation incorrectly. Despite today's attitudes, the primary function of sex is procreation. Judging by the 7+ billion people on the planet, it works. Saying it's the primary function doesn't mean it's the sole function -- it has nice societal, bonding benefits too. However God's plan, as understood in our church, is for men and women to be bound together by the priesthood power. "Neither is the man in the Lord without the woman, nor the woman without the man."
I see it as like Yin and Yang. Together they make are harmonious whole and bring balance to each other. Yang + Yang and Yin + Yin are by nature unbalanced.
*shrug* My two cents.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:01 am
Just an idea to throw out there: One of the temple questions asks you have any affiliation or sympathize towards a group that goes against the church standards. So don't sympathize. really. Hate the sin, not the sinners, yes. But it's wrong wrong wrong and don't forget that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:12 pm
My older sister recently sent out parents an email telling them she was gay -fyi, terrible way to do it- and I'm not really sure what to think.
She had been going to BYU, but because she participated in a protest to change BYUs gay honor code (or something like that) and was even quoted in the newspaper for it, she had to move out. my brother tells me that she was getting threatening letters and treated poorly on campus after the fact.
Now she's transfering to UofU.
I don't think that my sister is gay. She hasn't made out with any girls or done anything farther than that, she just isn't attracted to boys. I think that she just hasn't met the right guy yet.
The sad thing is, my dad is really anti-gay. When my sister sent him that email, it broke his heart and he kept crying and blaming hiumself. My dad has it set in his mind that he is responcible for getting all or his kids to the celestial kingdom and with this latest development with my sister, he feels like he's failed.
I really don't know how to feel about this. I'm not quiet sure that I beleive it... my sister has always followed her friends and given into peer pressure and since one of her room mates has alot of gay friends, maybe they convinced her? I dunno.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:56 pm
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, OR Transgendered. These activities have been observed in 87% of all animal species, INCLUDING insects. So, if you can find a REAL scripture to justify your prejudice (that means NOT the ridiculous Leviticus verse that ALSO instructs us not to eat shellfish or to wear clothes of two different fibers), then maybe I will CONSIDER agreeing with these absurd fallacies.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:57 pm
zannyxcore There is absolutely nothing wrong with being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, OR Transgendered. These activities have been observed in 87% of all animal species, INCLUDING insects. We are children of God with divine natures and destinies. More is expected of us than is expected of animals or insects. zannyxcore So, if you can find a REAL scripture to justify your prejudice (that means NOT the ridiculous Leviticus verse that ALSO instructs us not to eat shellfish or to wear clothes of two different fibers), then maybe I will CONSIDER agreeing with these absurd fallacies. Genesis 2:20-22 and 24 (emphasis added for clarity) 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Abraham 5:14-16 and 18 (emphasis added for clarity) 14 And the Gods said: Let us make an help meet for the man, for it is not good that the man should be alone, therefore we will form an help meet for him. 15 And the Gods caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and he slept, and they took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in the stead thereof; 16 And of the rib which the Gods had taken from man, formed they a woman, and brought her unto the man. 18 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh. 1 Corinthians 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. Homosexual behavior is clearly contrary to God's plan. Eve was formed for Adam, not (to use a cliched argument but I think it's funny) not Steve. Nor was an Ava formed for Eve. In conclusion: Mark 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:26 pm
I'm not even going to respond to this or I'll get banned rofl
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:52 pm
zannyxcore I'm not even going to respond to this or I'll get banned rofl So you just like to flame people? Question. Are you a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
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