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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:39 pm
Depends on what you mean by "Can vectors be seen" other Diclonius can see vectors and Kanae was able to seem them as well. It would seem that certain people can see the vectors. Just as in Bleach some people can see spirits while others can't. I only started reading Elfen Lied so I don't know much sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:26 pm
[-Tedious-] Vectors cannot be SEEN by the people, because they are invisible to the eye. However diclonius can sense them. They only let you see them so you can see whats going on, what you see in the first nine minutes of Elfen Lied is what a person there would see. Maybe due to other forces you might be able to determine they are there, however they cannot be seen, only sensed.
There. :] It's true vectors cannot be seen by the human eye, but humans can sense them if they come close enough, you can see them around Mariko's cage, because of the material it's made of. Other diclonii and silpelits can sense them a lot better then humans, their horns also probably help in that case. In the first episode where Lucy beheads that secretary of Kurama, Lucy's vector touched her shoulder and it had blood on it, so you could see the form of the vector's hand.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:14 pm
horsey1000 [-Tedious-] Vectors cannot be SEEN by the people, because they are invisible to the eye. However diclonius can sense them. They only let you see them so you can see whats going on, what you see in the first nine minutes of Elfen Lied is what a person there would see. Maybe due to other forces you might be able to determine they are there, however they cannot be seen, only sensed.
There. :] It's true vectors cannot be seen by the human eye, but humans can sense them if they come close enough, you can see them around Mariko's cage, because of the material it's made of. Other diclonii and silpelits can sense them a lot better then humans, their horns also probably help in that case. In the first episode where Lucy beheads that secretary of Kurama, Lucy's vector touched her shoulder and it had blood on it, so you could see the form of the vector's hand. True. Plus episode 4 when Nana says to Lucy: "I'm going to make it so that you can't walk." Then Lucy looks down in suprise, because she didn't sense the vectors' presence.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:47 pm
they cant be seen, they only show them on the show sometimes, just so you understand whats going on
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:51 pm
Or maybe Bando was able to see the Vectors due to a hightened sense. When it shows him in his training, you can see he has amazing reflex's and eyesight. Or, it could have been the rain (More likely). Its probably only a Diclonius thing, But there may still be that chance that a human could see them if they were trained as much an Bando.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:17 pm
I think it is possible for humans to recognize that the vectors are there in certain condition. But in the anime they said "Yes you can actually see them" about Mariko's vectors and nothing about them having to be in special conditions but then the rest of the time you only see them like the other diclonius' vectors just so you know what is going on. So I don't know what is going on there. If the vectors were covered in something I don't think you can see them because Lucy's vectors are covered in blood but you only see it when it is put on something else. But in conditions such as rain I think perhaps vectors would leave voids where there wouldn't be rain visible and that is possibly how Bondo knew the vectors were coming towards him. I think perhaps vectors being invisible has to do with how fast they vibrate, like a guitar string when it is vibrating you can still see it but it seems to turn almost transparent. Well vectors vibrate so fast that the refresh rate of human eyes can't keep up with it at all so they only see what is behind it. Just a thought anyways no real evidence.
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:54 pm
I don't think they can be seen. I think they show them in the anime so that you know whats going on, but I don't think the characters can see them. That would explain why when they're coming at a human they don't run away.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:33 pm
Mariko's vectors were visible because they vibrated so fact that they appeared solid. However, the other diclonius' vectors were of lower energy, and were not visible.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:17 pm
Sorceress Ameneka Mariko's vectors were visible because they vibrated so fact that they appeared solid. However, the other diclonius' vectors were of lower energy, and were not visible. You don't pay attention in science,do you?The faster molecules vibrate,the less solid the object. Form of matter------------------- Vibration speedSolid........................................SlowestLiquid.......................................SlowGas..........................................FastPlasma.....................................FastestNow vectors wouldn't be a form of matter,they are more of something that you would call kinetic energy.I work with thinks like that,and when someone tries to create and extra limb with energy(like a third eye),I believe it is called a 'Rieki limb'...But I would say that the vectors would be more kinetic energy than a form of matter. As far as seeing them goes,Banto might have seen them because of the fact that it was raining.Plus he might have used common sense to point out that the things she would throw object with and use as sensors,would be arms and hands.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:34 pm
I don't think they can be seen. The doctor, when he brought shirakawa infront of Mariko's tank, said hers could be seen because her wave motions were stronger then the others, (At least I think that's what he said, I dont quite remember. Which explains why Lucy was able to see them, and in return entangle her vectors with Mariko's, allowing Lucy to escape at that point.
Lucy could not see the other vectors. If she could she would have been able to clearly avoid Nana's throw early in the episode where Nana throws Lucy into the shrine. Then again when lucy was sitting on the ground after being thrown, she didn't protect herself when Nana wrapped her vector around her neck. When Nana said she was going to make it so Lucy can't walk, and Lucy looked down, It was probably because she felt the vector enter her leg, like Nana felt Lucy's enter her forhead when they first meet.
and how do you know Kanae saw them? According to her, all she saw was the girl with the horns, and everywhere she went people got hurt really bad.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:16 am
I agree with Kavu-chan, because Lucy was also surprised when Nana's vectors reached her, which she would have been able to see if they were visible.
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:15 pm
Silence... well, we can see them when we are watching the show and other diclonius can see them but humans can't. at least that is what it looks like. ...a soothing sound.
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:24 pm
Bando couldn't see her vectors. He saw the handprint left behind when Lucy crushed the helmet after she killed the other soldier. He knew how far to stay away because he was told of a secret weapon with a 2 meter range.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:42 am
I think that vectors can't be seen by humans. Because the vectors vibrate they can be sensed by people and animals from certain distances. I think animals can sense them from farther away then people.
Also if they can pick up blood and place hand prints on things they are obviously solid, then since two different things of matter can not occupy the same space, fog or a dust storm or steam, rain, etc... will accumulate around the vectors and instead of actual being able to see the vectors, like a mold you can see the impression they make into other substances.
But I'm pretty sure that humans can't actually see them, not even kanae. See saw people dying around the girl with horns and assumed she was doing something to kill people (She never specified how), Also when she pushed Lucy back she did it because she thought "the girl with horns" was going to kill kohta,the timing of the vecotrs was just a coincidence with her actions.
Diclonius can't see them either, but they can sense them a lot better then any other living beings. of course these are all just my own assumptions based on only the anime.
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