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Zim and Tak should...
Fall in love!
10%
 10%  [ 2 ]
Date!
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Get married!
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Have kids!
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
ALL OF THE ABOVE!
15%
 15%  [ 3 ]
Kill each other!
65%
 65%  [ 13 ]
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Invder tak

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:17 pm


Ru-Shin
Invder tak
Well, it beats ZADR, I mean, at least it's possible, even though Irkens are incapable of love.


I don't see how it "beats ZaDR"...they're practically the same in my opinion. In each relationship they hate each other. *shrugs* Which is why I support both instead of condemning one and supporting the other.

I don't know if Zim and Tak actually hated eachother...revengeful more than anything.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:48 am


I still believe my theory on Zimwiki.
Personally, I like both ZATR and ZAGR
I even have a AMV on my profile that
I made ^_^

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:23 pm


What do I think of ZaTr....... NO gonk its not right neither is ZaDr and DaDr and GaDr and ZaGr
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:54 pm


~How could it be 'right' or 'wrong'? 'Tis an opinion! ^^

I can't remember if I said before, but I think ZATR is cool. I'd like to see how it would work; IZ pairings are all so awesome that way. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:31 pm


I suport ZATR and ZAGR, But I mostly like ZAXR (aka ZAAR).
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:34 pm


RyokoHakubi
I suport ZATR and ZAGR, But I mostly like ZAXR (aka ZAAR).

What is that supposed to be?

LimeInDeCoconut


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:16 am


ZAXR=Zim And Xayide (my irken character) Romance
ZAAR=Zim And Amanda (Me) Romance.
razz rofl
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:01 pm


Invder tak
Ru-Shin
Invder tak
Well, it beats ZADR, I mean, at least it's possible, even though Irkens are incapable of love.


I don't see how it "beats ZaDR"...they're practically the same in my opinion. In each relationship they hate each other. *shrugs* Which is why I support both instead of condemning one and supporting the other.

I don't know if Zim and Tak actually hated eachother...revengeful more than anything.


We could say almost the same thing about Zim and Dib. They're more like rivals, constantly trying to be better than the other.

Like Naruto and Sasuke, and many other characters that claim to hate each other but when it comes right down to it, they chicken out of finishing the other off because they actually DO admire each other's strengths. They rely on each other to grow stronger.

Ru-Shin


zimfanatic

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:33 pm


Ru-Shin
Invder tak
Ru-Shin
Invder tak
Well, it beats ZADR, I mean, at least it's possible, even though Irkens are incapable of love.


I don't see how it "beats ZaDR"...they're practically the same in my opinion. In each relationship they hate each other. *shrugs* Which is why I support both instead of condemning one and supporting the other.

I don't know if Zim and Tak actually hated eachother...revengeful more than anything.


We could say almost the same thing about Zim and Dib. They're more like rivals, constantly trying to be better than the other.

Like Naruto and Sasuke, and many other characters that claim to hate each other but when it comes right down to it, they chicken out of finishing the other off because they actually DO admire each other's strengths. They rely on each other to grow stronger.

That's true and it doesnt mean they love each other
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:23 pm


zimfanatic


We could say almost the same thing about Zim and Dib. They're more like rivals, constantly trying to be better than the other.

Like Naruto and Sasuke, and many other characters that claim to hate each other but when it comes right down to it, they chicken out of finishing the other off because they actually DO admire each other's strengths. They rely on each other to grow stronger.

That's true and it doesnt mean they love each other

EXACTLY. Which brings me to part of my point.

I mean, we all have our proverbial creative license. We can create any pairing we want, or we can choose not too. That's up to the individual and their personal tastes.

ZaTR and ZaDR are practically the same thing. To support one while condemning the other just seems odd to me.

So, if you're going to take Tak who dislikes Zim, who in turn thinks of her as a thorn in his side, and pair her up with him...then why not Dib and Zim who practically have the same exact feelings that I just stated?

The only difference, in my opinion, is gender and race. Zim and Tak are a..."traditional" pairing. They break no boundaries. They're staying within their race and are in what most people consider a "healthy" heterosexual relationship.

Zim and Dib, however, are a more controversial type of pairing. Which, I believe, is why it has such a large fanbase. They're not sticking within their race, nor are they pursuing a widely excepted orientation. They stick out in their little society in everything else they do...why not this as well?

Anyway...I'm rambling. The whole point is this: I, personally, support both pairings. Emotionally they are practically the same. To support one, and hate the other is beyond my understanding.

Ru-Shin


Fadinay

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:25 am


Quote:
EXACTLY. Which brings me to part of my point.

I mean, we all have our proverbial creative license. We can create any pairing we want, or we can choose not too. That's up to the individual and their personal tastes.

ZaTR and ZaDR are practically the same thing. To support one while condemning the other just seems odd to me.

So, if you're going to take Tak who dislikes Zim, who in turn thinks of her as a thorn in his side, and pair her up with him...then why not Dib and Zim who practically have the same exact feelings that I just stated?

The only difference, in my opinion, is gender and race. Zim and Tak are a..."traditional" pairing. They break no boundaries. They're staying within their race and are in what most people consider a "healthy" heterosexual relationship.

Zim and Dib, however, are a more controversial type of pairing. Which, I believe, is why it has such a large fanbase. They're not sticking within their race, nor are they pursuing a widely excepted orientation. They stick out in their little society in everything else they do...why not this as well?

Anyway...I'm rambling. The whole point is this: I, personally, support both pairings. Emotionally they are practically the same. To support one, and hate the other is beyond my understanding.




Good point. Tak was only in one episode though. We, the viewers, don't know as much about Tak's personality and past since not as much of it is revealed in the series. Hypothetically speaking, a fan could make up a history and more in depth personality description based on it for Tak that could possibly alter her thoughts about Zim.
I'm not a ZATR or ZADR fan though, personally.
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:44 am


Vortian
Quote:
EXACTLY. Which brings me to part of my point.

I mean, we all have our proverbial creative license. We can create any pairing we want, or we can choose not too. That's up to the individual and their personal tastes.

ZaTR and ZaDR are practically the same thing. To support one while condemning the other just seems odd to me.

So, if you're going to take Tak who dislikes Zim, who in turn thinks of her as a thorn in his side, and pair her up with him...then why not Dib and Zim who practically have the same exact feelings that I just stated?

The only difference, in my opinion, is gender and race. Zim and Tak are a..."traditional" pairing. They break no boundaries. They're staying within their race and are in what most people consider a "healthy" heterosexual relationship.

Zim and Dib, however, are a more controversial type of pairing. Which, I believe, is why it has such a large fanbase. They're not sticking within their race, nor are they pursuing a widely excepted orientation. They stick out in their little society in everything else they do...why not this as well?

Anyway...I'm rambling. The whole point is this: I, personally, support both pairings. Emotionally they are practically the same. To support one, and hate the other is beyond my understanding.




Good point. Tak was only in one episode though. We, the viewers, don't know as much about Tak's personality and past since not as much of it is revealed in the series. Hypothetically speaking, a fan could make up a history and more in depth personality description based on it for Tak that could possibly alter her thoughts about Zim.
I'm not a ZATR or ZADR fan though, personally.


Very true, and I personally take that liberty when writing ZaTR fics. smile

Yet, the same can be done for Dib. Though he IS in most of the episodes, we really only know a little bit more about his past than we do Tak. Sure, we know his personality a bit better, but I think Tak has a pretty strong and impressionable personality to begin with anyway. xd

I guess what I'm trying to say is, they're both pretty mysterious as far as their pasts go. Which gives us free reign over what we want to write. Also, as fanartists and writers, we can change their futures...feelings can change over time and in different circumstances. So anything is possible.

Oh, you don't? So are you a Purist? biggrin Or do you support some other pairing? biggrin (I LOVE your username, btw! blaugh Vortians are so adorable. whee )

Ru-Shin


Fadinay

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:09 pm


Quote:
Very true, and I personally take that liberty when writing ZaTR fics. smile

Yet, the same can be done for Dib. Though he IS in most of the episodes, we really only know a little bit more about his past than we do Tak. Sure, we know his personality a bit better, but I think Tak has a pretty strong and impressionable personality to begin with anyway. xd

I guess what I'm trying to say is, they're both pretty mysterious as far as their pasts go. Which gives us free reign over what we want to write. Also, as fanartists and writers, we can change their futures...feelings can change over time and in different circumstances. So anything is possible.

Oh, you don't? So are you a Purist? biggrin Or do you support some other pairing? biggrin (I LOVE your username, btw! blaugh Vortians are so adorable. whee )



That's true with Dib. We don't know much about his past, but there is still a difference in the boundaries of knowledge.
We assume Dib is human and assume Tak is an Irken. I don't know about other people, but I would be more shocked to read a background story that makes Dib born as an Irken or some other kind of alien than I would be to read a story about Tak being a different alien species.
For reasons like that I can see why someone could be against ZADR, but like ZATR and it have nothing to do with traditional preferences.
But you're right, that doesn't narrow down the possibilities. If there's a way to make things fall in place, that could make the fan fiction more interesting.
People do change over time too.
I can imagine ZATR or even ZADR being possible, just not the path I would take as a writer.
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:36 am


zimfanatic
Ru-Shin
Invder tak

I don't know if Zim and Tak actually hated eachother...revengeful more than anything.


We could say almost the same thing about Zim and Dib. They're more like rivals, constantly trying to be better than the other.

Like Naruto and Sasuke, and many other characters that claim to hate each other but when it comes right down to it, they chicken out of finishing the other off because they actually DO admire each other's strengths. They rely on each other to grow stronger.

That's true and it doesnt mean they love each other


~But it doesn't mean they don't, and that's the whole point of the 'what if?' that is fanfiction. ^^

In my opinion, there's always at least one way to write something and make it believable, it's just a matter of finding the neccessary situation.

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Ru-Shin

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:42 pm


Vortian

That's true with Dib. We don't know much about his past, but there is still a difference in the boundaries of knowledge.
We assume Dib is human and assume Tak is an Irken. I don't know about other people, but I would be more shocked to read a background story that makes Dib born as an Irken or some other kind of alien than I would be to read a story about Tak being a different alien species.
For reasons like that I can see why someone could be against ZADR, but like ZATR and it have nothing to do with traditional preferences.
But you're right, that doesn't narrow down the possibilities. If there's a way to make things fall in place, that could make the fan fiction more interesting.
People do change over time too.
I can imagine ZATR or even ZADR being possible, just not the path I would take as a writer.


Yes, that true. But at the same time, I would be far less surprised of Dib being an experimental Prof. Membrane clone than Tak being some sub species of Irken.

Also, this is random, but I completely forgot to mention the age difference in my list earlier. That throws a lot of people off when it comes to ZaDR. Like one of my friends. She likes ZaDR, but has to not think about the age difference or it completely creeps her out and she has to stop reading. Heh heh.

The age difference isn't an issue with me, however, considering Zim's...uh, maturity level or lack thereof. sweatdrop And besides, most people make Dib older in their fics, anyway.

I personally think Dib would be almost out of High School before Zim even realized he had any strange feelings towards Dib. Because...well, I love Zim to death, but he's pretty dense. xd

Astera_Renata


~But it doesn't mean they don't, and that's the whole point of the 'what if?' that is fanfiction. ^^

In my opinion, there's always at least one way to write something and make it believable, it's just a matter of finding the neccessary situation.


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