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 Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:23 am
LRD_nick UPDATED: What does it sound like? it can be any language spoken in this world or it can be a language which no one earth knows except GOD Himself. But the speaker(who speaks in tounges) have no understanding of the language being spoken by him/herself. Well, unless there's someone who has the Gift of translating 'tounges' language.. a person not only can speak in 'tounges' but can also sing in 'tounges' too..
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:34 pm
I Personaly Do not believe in the tongues that the pentecostal church believes in. I believe that Tongues is a gift that comes when you try to preach to some one who doesnt know your language and then they will understand you as if you were speaking there native language and you hear there responses in your native language. If that makes sense lol.
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:59 am
Siren of Saturn I'm hoping to get the gift of tongues soon. -_- Im hoping to get it too biggrin , So I love u, keep at it and pray to be baptized in the holy spirit.
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:19 pm
Some facts on Tongues:
*Found only in the book of ACTS
*when the Holy SPirit uses you to speak in another language that u previously weren't familiar with
*Since it is found only in ACTS, we, as christians are not gifted with it anymore. Do not be fooled by the many evagelists who are fooled themselves.
* It is NOT speaking in gibberish....
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:05 pm
Moppytop Some facts on Tongues: *Found only in the book of ACTS *when the Holy SPirit uses you to speak in another language that u previously weren't familiar with *Since it is found only in ACTS, we, as christians are not gifted with it anymore. Do not be fooled by the many evagelists who are fooled themselves. * It is NOT speaking in gibberish.... Actually that is not correct. Reading the book of Acts it does show evidence that even our generation can recieve the gift. I myself have witnessed others both speaking in & translating tongues. It's mentioned in Acts & Jesus himself mentions speaking in tongues in the book of Mark. Also it is mentioned in 1 Corinthians.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:24 pm
I would have to disagree with most of the facts about tongues.
It is mentioned in other places, such as 1Corinthians 12:10, 12:28, 12:30, 13:8, 14:5 (I would like every one of you to speak in tongues [reference to tongues vs prophecy]), 14:39 (and do not forbid speaking in tongues).
Tongues is a very powerful thing, and I have heard many people speak it, and I fully believe that I can as well. I do not beleive I am deceived, for there is something in my spirit that changes when I speak in tongues. It is used as a worship tool. I really beleive that if it was not meant for us today, God would have made that point clear, and I do not believe that people are making it up. Some, yes, but after spending such an intense time in the presense of God, I cannot deny it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:58 am
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:45 pm
Red_Ronin Moppytop Some facts on Tongues: *Found only in the book of ACTS *when the Holy SPirit uses you to speak in another language that u previously weren't familiar with *Since it is found only in ACTS, we, as christians are not gifted with it anymore. Do not be fooled by the many evagelists who are fooled themselves. * It is NOT speaking in gibberish.... Actually that is not correct. Reading the book of Acts it does show evidence that even our generation can recieve the gift. I myself have witnessed others both speaking in & translating tongues. It's mentioned in Acts & Jesus himself mentions speaking in tongues in the book of Mark. Also it is mentioned in 1 Corinthians. So what your saying.. Correct me wif I am wrong.. Who gets tongues IF its only in a Catholic bible??? If your forgetting something my brother,Catholics ARE Christians there for we are Entitled to just as much as them,if not more since we are the direct center to Christ,and not praying to the virgin and saints..
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:53 am
LRD_nick Red_Ronin Moppytop Some facts on Tongues: *Found only in the book of ACTS *when the Holy SPirit uses you to speak in another language that u previously weren't familiar with *Since it is found only in ACTS, we, as christians are not gifted with it anymore. Do not be fooled by the many evagelists who are fooled themselves. * It is NOT speaking in gibberish.... Actually that is not correct. Reading the book of Acts it does show evidence that even our generation can recieve the gift. I myself have witnessed others both speaking in & translating tongues. It's mentioned in Acts & Jesus himself mentions speaking in tongues in the book of Mark. Also it is mentioned in 1 Corinthians. So what your saying.. Correct me wif I am wrong.. Who gets tongues IF its only in a Catholic bible??? If your forgetting something my brother,Catholics ARE Christians there for we are Entitled to just as much as them,if not more since we are the direct center to Christ,and not praying to the virgin and saints.. The verses on speaking in tongues should be in all Bible versions not just one or two. I'm not sure where the Catholic thing your speaking of came from. I merely meant in my reasponse to Moppytop that their idea wasn't correct. Reading the bible in full & not just picking out one or two verses shows tongues is for all Gods children. Catholics, Baptists, etc.. All his people can recieve this gift, but must really want it & pray for it. God will then give the gift when He decides someone should have it. I've heard much false info on speaking in tongues. All from the classic it happened then, but doesn't happen now to take a deep breath & start talking funny & you have it. All that is bunk. Only God may grant this or any other spiritual gift. Humans aren't worthy of these gifts, yet God will give them to us out of love for us.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:10 pm
Sorry, but the "initial evidence" was strictly the sign for the first church. The tongues they used were languages that peoploe in the crowd spoke in their own countries. They used a word....tongues....that meant languages. We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. The first church was in a city that had travelers from all over who spoke different languages, and some barely had enough words in Greek, Latin, or Hebrew to do business. God gave them the ability to speak to different people in their own language, so as to spread the Gospel to other people and places.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:10 pm
beadyone We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. Scriptures please that say this.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:09 pm
beadyone Sorry, but the "initial evidence" was strictly the sign for the first church. The tongues they used were languages that peoploe in the crowd spoke in their own countries. They used a word....tongues....that meant languages. We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. The first church was in a city that had travelers from all over who spoke different languages, and some barely had enough words in Greek, Latin, or Hebrew to do business. God gave them the ability to speak to different people in their own language, so as to spread the Gospel to other people and places.
Also, the Greek word used here is glossais. The usage of this term in the passage (in its singular form) may refer to an ectsatic utterance which no one understood, ie, a divine language.
I personally count myself able to speak in tongues, and I do not think it a lie that was told to me. It is one of those things that once you have experienced it, there is such power in it that you can't go back on it. The Bible, in whole, was meant for us Christians today as well. Paul's words were included not only because he was speaking to the individual churches addressed in his letters, but he is speaking to the church as a whole, which is why it is so relevant to us today.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:44 pm
x_Hikari_x beadyone Sorry, but the "initial evidence" was strictly the sign for the first church. The tongues they used were languages that peoploe in the crowd spoke in their own countries. They used a word....tongues....that meant languages. We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. The first church was in a city that had travelers from all over who spoke different languages, and some barely had enough words in Greek, Latin, or Hebrew to do business. God gave them the ability to speak to different people in their own language, so as to spread the Gospel to other people and places.
Also, the Greek word used here is glossais. The usage of this term in the passage (in its singular form) may refer to an ectsatic utterance which no one understood, ie, a divine language.
I personally count myself able to speak in tongues, and I do not think it a lie that was told to me. It is one of those things that once you have experienced it, there is such power in it that you can't go back on it. The Bible, in whole, was meant for us Christians today as well. Paul's words were included not only because he was speaking to the individual churches addressed in his letters, but he is speaking to the church as a whole, which is why it is so relevant to us today.Please read on in your quote of the Word: 1 Corinthians 14:9-17 Paul is stating that if it it does not edify the hearer then what use is it. I came from a pentacostal church and not all "speakers of tongues" have interpetation nor edification of the hearers. If you can not feel Holy Spirit from your salvation on then you are not listening to God's voice. And the correct Greek word is: glossa: a tongue of fire , as at pentacost. and as the tongue as an organ of speech. A. as a language, coupled with phule, a tribe, loas, a people, ethnos,a nation. B. A supernatual gift of speaking another language without its having been learned. It is for the edification of the church, unfortunately it is not used as such.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:55 pm
Red_Ronin beadyone We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. Scriptures please that say this. Jesus said that He had to leave(die on the cross,raise from the dead, and ascend to heaven) so that the Comforter(Counselor)may come. This is Holy Spirit, the third in the triune GodHead. He comes into our hearts at salvation and it is He that convict us when we are wrong in our walk with Jesus. Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Romans 8:9-11, 1Corithians 12:13
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:30 pm
beadyone x_Hikari_x beadyone Sorry, but the "initial evidence" was strictly the sign for the first church. The tongues they used were languages that peoploe in the crowd spoke in their own countries. They used a word....tongues....that meant languages. We have Holy Spirit the nano second we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. The first church was in a city that had travelers from all over who spoke different languages, and some barely had enough words in Greek, Latin, or Hebrew to do business. God gave them the ability to speak to different people in their own language, so as to spread the Gospel to other people and places.
Also, the Greek word used here is glossais. The usage of this term in the passage (in its singular form) may refer to an ectsatic utterance which no one understood, ie, a divine language.
I personally count myself able to speak in tongues, and I do not think it a lie that was told to me. It is one of those things that once you have experienced it, there is such power in it that you can't go back on it. The Bible, in whole, was meant for us Christians today as well. Paul's words were included not only because he was speaking to the individual churches addressed in his letters, but he is speaking to the church as a whole, which is why it is so relevant to us today.Please read on in your quote of the Word: 1 Corinthians 14:9-17 Paul is stating that if it it does not edify the hearer then what use is it. I came from a pentacostal church and not all "speakers of tongues" have interpetation nor edification of the hearers. If you can not feel Holy Spirit from your salvation on then you are not listening to God's voice. And the correct Greek word is: glossa: a tongue of fire , as at pentacost. and as the tongue as an organ of speech. A. as a language, coupled with phule, a tribe, loas, a people, ethnos,a nation. B. A supernatual gift of speaking another language without its having been learned. It is for the edification of the church, unfortunately it is not used as such.
According to Strong's concordence and New Testament lexical aids, the word used in this verse is glossais (1185). The root is indeed glossa however the tense used in the verse is different. The definition that I used before was drawn directly from Strong's aids.
And still no where does it say that tongues was only for the early Church.
It is true, however, when you say that Holy Spirit is with is the moment we become believers in Christ. We are not filled with the Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues, but He is with us.
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