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 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:00 am
Erin Sovenya Thorn Venatrix I hate the words "special" and "unique". They sond so condescending, especially when used on children. I have to agree. Think about it...when is the last time any of you used to word special to denote a kid in a positive light? yeah, thats what I thought. I think because of my PotO obsession, I'd keep the kid. I don't think I would name him Erik, though (I do want to name my kid that) because that might be a little cruel. I'd probably be shocked and worried for the kid's health, both physically and socially. I mean, kids are little bastards, really. I'd send him to normal school, though. No sense in making him ugly and socially retarded. Oh, and would most certainly NOT make him wear a mask. Thats just...cruel. Unless its his idea. Then a ninja mask would be in order,d efinintely. To argue something, it may be better (even if you don't believe) to send the kid to a Christian school. Not Catholic because I'm not sure they could handle him/her, but one that teaches values of accepting everyone. That way he could get the love from the teachers and the kids might not be as cruel if they've grown up in the same environment the school offers. At least then the teasing and such would be cut down a little. Not only that, but it might give the child a reason to enjoy life if they believe that someone truly loves them no matter what.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:09 pm
Have you been to a Christian school, Uta? I grew up with some kids who went to one and they were the cruelest, sickest little twerps you ever could meet. *shrugs* Just because people are religious doesn't necessarily make them nice.
I have another question... what about mirrors? Would you keep them in the house or get rid of them?
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:55 pm
Mirrors? I'd probably cover them up for a few years.
Actually, bad idea. The shock would be more impressive than just slowly exposing him to mirrors.
My experience is that kids in religious schools can be more vicious than in public school, at least at a young age.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:42 pm
PhantomoftheFox Have you been to a Christian school, Uta? I grew up with some kids who went to one and they were the cruelest, sickest little twerps you ever could meet. *shrugs* Just because people are religious doesn't necessarily make them nice. I have another question... what about mirrors? Would you keep them in the house or get rid of them? I have. I went to one for several years and all the kids there were the nicest kids I've known. I did get a few teasings, but the teachers protected me. I guess it all depends on the kids. I was just going by personal experience.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:06 pm
I thiink I already mentioned this, but I'd keep the mirrors. He had best know who he is from the start and not be scared to look at himself.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:04 pm
Thorn Venatrix I thiink I already mentioned this, but I'd keep the mirrors. He had best know who he is from the start and not be scared to look at himself. I'm going to half-agree with you there. While I can admit it would be healthy, I think that it should not start from day one. Preferably if the child's deformity is that bad, I would not want to be giving them nightmares about their own face and develop a fear of the mirror. I would refrain from them for a couple of years until I believe the child can handle it and then slowly give them reflective surfaces and show them what they look like. It would naturally frighten them, but I would let them know they are no uglier than others can be inside.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:14 pm
Except I don't see any reason he'd be frightened of himself from the start. He would know that he was different from his mother, yes, but if he grew up in a home where nothing was made of his appearance, he'd probably just assume that it wasn't a big deal, at least in his early years. I mean, none of us are scared that, say, we have a larger or smaller nose than our parents, or if we had brown hair and they had blond. The idea of beauty is cultural, and while he would definately notice a difference between himself and me, he would have no way of knowing that he'd be considered "ugly" unless the only thing he saw was normal peoples' faces at an early age. He would assume that he looked like that until he looked in a mirror, which would be a major shock. I think it would cause a lot less emotional distress if he knew what he looked like from the very beginning and then learned that he was different, rather than having him get a concept of what was normal before he saw himself and then being disturbed by that image.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:17 pm
I have no maternal skills whatsoever, but if I had a child like Erik, I'd probably cry and blame myself for giving my son that kind of face and the hardships he will go through. But I would love him unconditionally, since he's my child. All I can do is show him love and support.
I wouldn't keep him away from mirrors or reflective surfaces, because he'll have to face it sooner or later. I'd probably be too overprotective and have him homeschooled, until he is sure that he wants to be in a public school.
I would think it's too cruel to give the child a mask. I would want it to be confident of their looks.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:52 pm
*ponders* This is an excellent question! I think, perhaps, that I would care for it- what ever ugly little thing it might be, it would still be my kid, you know?
I think, in all honesty, that I would probably take it to get constructive surgery.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:10 pm
I wouldn't be scared of him (assuming my first is a boy) but I would be terrified for him. Usually babies born with deformities are very weak and grow ill easily. Often they even die. And even if he were to survive he'd more than likely live is constant isolation from the world.
Thankfully we have advanced so far in surgery and societal acceptance of those different from ourselves.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:14 pm
shibaru *ponders* This is an excellent question! I think, perhaps, that I would care for it- what ever ugly little thing it might be, it would still be my kid, you know?
I think, in all honesty, that I would probably take it to get constructive surgery. According to Uta, surgery isn't an option.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:26 pm
Thorn Venatrix shibaru *ponders* This is an excellent question! I think, perhaps, that I would care for it- what ever ugly little thing it might be, it would still be my kid, you know?
I think, in all honesty, that I would probably take it to get constructive surgery. According to Uta, surgery isn't an option. Well it is, but I want the hypothetical question to include that there not be surgery. After all, the condition may not be able to help him. There are some problems that surgery can't solve and I think that Erik'd condition was one. For all we know his skulls was misshapen too and could've been the reason his eyes were sunken in and his skin stretched like a corpse's. That, you can't fix.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:13 pm
This is a little OT, but surgery can fix some pretty nasty skull deformities. I saw a special where they cut a kid's eye sockets out, trimmed and reformed the bone and put them back in again. So in real life there probably would be a lot medical science could do for Erik. But just for the purposes of this thread... *coughs*
Another thought... assuming your child has Erik's face, would he also have Erik's mind? How would you educate a child that brilliant?
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:06 am
PhantomoftheFox This is a little OT, but surgery can fix some pretty nasty skull deformities. I saw a special where they cut a kid's eye sockets out, trimmed and reformed the bone and put them back in again. So in real life there probably would be a lot medical science could do for Erik. But just for the purposes of this thread... *coughs* Another thought... assuming your child has Erik's face, would he also have Erik's mind? How would you educate a child that brilliant? Well of course, but for the sake of the topic I'm pretending it doesn't exist. If I let that slide, everyone would just say they'd save up the money for the surgery, which isn't the point. I wanna see how people would take care of such a child almost like back in the 1800s. That, well, I suppose could depend. If they had Erik's mind, all you could really do is give them intellectual freedom and support their interests as best you can by giving them the means to get to them. I think if I honestly found out my child was that intelligent, I would be working my butt off getting them ready for the real world so that they can help others instead of using their minds for bad things.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:57 pm
I always thought that Erik's ugliness was somehow a price for his genius. Maybe I watch too much Fullmetal ALchemist, but a human man in our world being a genius at everything, not being too over the top insane and being drop-dead gorgeous? Impossible.
Bit off topic with that, but anyways, yeah, genius should be nurtured, not suppressed. Any talent should be nurtured.
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