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 Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:28 am
[The_Stranger] Sonic in the games is on Mobius. Mobius is exactly Earth almost, they explained it in the comics, but that plot sucked and many things got retconned. Sonic is more powerful than Shadow because he's used the Super Emeralds to become Hyper Sonic. Without any emeralds, Shadow is the most powerful being. His power surpasses Sonic's and Silver's. Silver's ESP requires alot of concentration and what you propose Quillz is impossibly for him to do. He's not naive, he just has limited psychic abilties. His powers wouldn't be able to contain an enraged Shadow for long, the build up in power would cause to much strain on Silver's mind and powers. And how exacatly would you know this? 0_o Its seen in Sonic 06 that Silver can still grab hold of Shadow even when he is in his Chaos Boost form. Also in the game, Blaze points out him being naive a couple of times. The world that is in the game is mention as Earth a number of times.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:10 am
Mobius, Earth basically the same thing as explained in the comics and TV shows.
Being naive doesn't mean anything actually. You'd know this if you knew what being naive meant.
And in games when you're playing the character don't count. As seen in games like Ultimate Spider-Man, Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2.
Shadow wasn't in his Chaos Boost form. If you played Shadow the Hedgehog, Shadow doesn't need Chaos Emeralds to use his powers. You're telling me that Silver could contain a Chaos Blast? Highly doubtful and improbable. I've seen Silver's powers, they're limited not godly as you make them out to be.
A Chaos Blast would be enough to take Silver no matter how hard he tries to keep Shadow in place and restricted. Therefor Shadow superior, Silver inferior.
Silver's only inferior to Sonic and Shadow because he has limited control over his psychic abilties. If had more power I'd say he was supreme. Naivity has nothing to do with his powers as he wasn't being naive when he tried to kill Sonic.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:53 am
[The_Stranger] Mobius, Earth basically the same thing as explained in the comics and TV shows. Being naive doesn't mean anything actually. You'd know this if you knew what being naive meant.And in games when you're playing the character don't count. As seen in games like Ultimate Spider-Man, Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2. Shadow wasn't in his Chaos Boost form. If you played Shadow the Hedgehog, Shadow doesn't need Chaos Emeralds to use his powers. You're telling me that Silver could contain a Chaos Blast? Highly doubtful and improbable. I've seen Silver's powers, they're limited not godly as you make them out to be. A Chaos Blast would be enough to take Silver no matter how hard he tries to keep Shadow in place and restricted. Therefor Shadow superior, Silver inferior. Silver's only inferior to Sonic and Shadow because he has limited control over his psychic abilties. If had more power I'd say he was supreme. Naivity has nothing to do with his powers as he wasn't being naive when he tried to kill Sonic. I do know what it means. And just because you are refering to Shadow's powers in ShtH, you've proved to me that you've never played Sonic 06 yet. If you'd played the game you would indeed know that Silver is in complete control of his powers, and can learn more ablilities to enhance them. And in game when you are fighting aginst them does count; for it show you front hand what the characters are capable of and their weaknesses. Btw, events in the tv show and comics are considered non-canon.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:39 pm
I have played Sonic the Hedgehog my good man. And I'm not impressed with Silver's powers. They're limited psychokinetic abilities, impressive but not powerful enough to stand in a league with Shadow or Sonic. He's one below them.
You seem to have not played StH, therefore you are not one to talk. I seem to know more about Silver's psychokinetic abilties than you. He has his limits, he's not as god mighty as you keep making him seem.
Sonic and Shadow are two of the most powerful beings on Earth, though Shadow's power gives him an edge. Silver has yet to display anything note worthy of being powerful enough to beat either.
He hasn't taken on GUN or the Aliens like Shadow has. He hasn't been a global threat nor is he seen as one. He has his limits because he requires concentration for his powers to work. He can't hold objects and then expect to hold an incoming object in place at the same time. Though you make it out as he can, but he hasn't done it yet nor can he.
He's not that powerful because of his limited psychokinetic abilities. You seem to have failed to see that. Now quit bothering me and get back on topic.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:58 pm
[The_Stranger] You seem to have not played StH, therefore you are not one to talk I own and beaten the game. [The_Stranger] He has his limits, he's not as god mighty as you keep making him seem. I never said Silver was god almighty, but you seem to be comparing Shadow as if he were. [The_Stranger] Silver has yet to display anything note worthy of being powerful enough to beat either. Silver is the only character that can damage Solaris during the first quarter of the fight. So that doesn't make him obsolete compared to Sonic and Shadow. [The_Stranger] He hasn't taken on GUN or the Aliens like Shadow has. He hasn't been a global threat nor is he seen as one. I doubt that Sonic and Shadow have the power (and the will) to constantly take on Iblis like he does everyday in the future. Iblis is his global threat. [The_Stranger] He can't hold objects and then expect to hold an incoming object in place at the same time. Though you make it out as he can, but he hasn't done it yet nor can he. Like I said earler, that is his only weakness. Like Sonic and his aquaphobia or Shadow when he drains his energy. You say you've played the game and yet you still say that Shadow is the most powerful character. If you did play it, you would have mentioned that Omega is ultimately the one who beats him in the end. So now I now that your opinions about Shadow is garbage. I'll quit bothering you until you come up with something that is a true fact.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:42 pm
rofl rofl rofl Oh man, that made me laugh so hard, I couldn't control myself. True facts. Yes of course. As if all my examples from the games weren't enough for you, the king of misinformation. You're trolling is becoming a nuisance to me. Just because Shadow is more powerful than Silver and I've shot down all your reasons why that isn't you still want MORE! I've given you all the facts from the games and you've given me NOTHING! I'll leave it at that. rofl rofl rofl
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Warnersister Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:24 am
People's opinions are what they are, opinions. No one is trying to say that they are pure, unmitigated fact, but it is quite possible for people to hold different opinions. You've both come up with reasons to back up your views, which is what we want to see in this forum - constructive discussion.
Agree to disagree if you like, but let's not get personal here, please?
DW
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:26 am
People, I tell you yet again, none of the hedgies care which is most powerful, they just battle for kicks and giggles. If this really was that important why doesn't Sonic b***h Shadow out every time he says he's the ultimate lifeform? Argh, once again vs. threads cause anguish....
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:05 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:19 am
[The_Stranger] rofl rofl rofl Oh man, that made me laugh so hard, I couldn't control myself. True facts. Yes of course. As if all my examples from the games weren't enough for you, the king of misinformation. You're trolling is becoming a nuisance to me. Just because Shadow is more powerful than Silver and I've shot down all your reasons why that isn't you still want MORE! I've given you all the facts from the games and you've given me NOTHING! I'll leave it at that. rofl rofl rofl Good. Lets leave this at you laughing at yourself...Tyrone Biggums. The man that lives in denal.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:36 am
I apologize full heartedly to AaronTheGreat,Warnersister, Dark Devil003(even though he seems unphazed) and anyone else affected by the bantering between King Quillz and myself.
To get us back on track I do believe Sonic is the better character, but Shadow is more powerful of the two.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:16 pm
Until we see a true showdown between them in future games, all we have is opinion. So for the time being and with no public word from Sega, Sonic and Shadow are evenly matched (in normal form); they just have suggestive ways of showing it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:23 am
Thanks, Warnersister.
Both seem bland to me in versatility terms, with only Shadow's fascination with gunplay - which is completely at odds with the rest of the franchise - making him stand out.
Neither character's personality - cooler-than-thou with sneer that could frighten small children or a disturbing level of stereotypically whiny and self-destructive emo - does anything for me, either.
In that respect I'd choose Sonic for at least fitting the franchise. But asking me to choose between Sonic or Shadow is like asking me to choose between chewing on someone else's vomit or chewing on raw sewage.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:43 am
The only thing I coukd ever see to choose between the characters would be that the series does exist because of Sonic in the first place.
However, neither endear themselves to me as characters.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:00 pm
Chao- Hmmm....It's always so hard to chose but maybe Sonic.
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