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 Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:35 pm
champ1023 Erik of the PWG So we should hate Vince for the lack of ability to wrestle well. Only under certain curcumstances can Cena be impressive. Much like every other wrestler. I don't enjoy Edge in some matches. I don't enjoy HBK and Triple H in some matches. Hence why some have match specialties. I love watching Edge in Ladder and hardcore matches. Same with HBK and Trips. Cena can be ruthless in hardcore type matches. As for the hating Vince on the lack of ability to wrestle. No...no you shouldn't. You should blame the people who book the matches. The guy can wrestle, you might as well stop saying he can't because I lived near the OVW training place in Louisville, Kentucky all my life until recently and watched many of his matches. The people who book the matches are who you should be hating not the man who once again listened to the people in higher authority. How about I hate Vince's fatehr for basically starting the WWWF.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:04 pm
Erik of the PWG How about I hate Vince's fatehr for basically starting the WWWF. Umm why?
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:05 pm
champ1023 Erik of the PWG How about I hate Vince's fatehr for basically starting the WWWF. Umm why? Well I shouldn't hate Vince, after all it was his fatehr that basically gave him the spot. No I shouldn't hate his father because it was......... etc...
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:39 pm
champ1023 Umm, what match were you watching? I remember clearly that for a good five minutes Cena was holding onto the ropes, pushing HBK away from his leg, holding onto it and not standing on the leg while the assault was going on. I remember him yelling "get him off me" to the ref and "AHH s**t!" when HBK had his leg twisted in the rope. All that I saw that was kinnda funny was after HBK hit the turnbuckle post and began bleeding Cena ran across the ring and hit him like it was nothing....but then later he favored it before the Five Knuckle Shuffle. I got the DVD( ninja ) and have watched it numerous times and the man favored his hurt limb more than most wrestlers do. Just curious how could you have the DVD it doesn't come out for awhile. Unless you have a dvr or something. Cena is over used he is forced down our throats, I think if he lost the championship people will stop gripping about it. I used to like Cena before his marine gimmick. He needs to drop the belt and turn heel, he is a great heel on the mic. I hate to compare Orton and Cena but if you saw the macth between HBK and RKO, the week after WM, Randy sold his injuries throught the match, where as at WM Cena sold his injury for just a portion of the match. Also, I dont care for what he did to the title, it may be new and hip but thats not what that titles' about, its about its history and all the great men that have held that belt before him. Hopefully the next man to hold the title brings back the old strap or close to it. Oh and I'm not "hating" on Cena just giving some thoughts. I don't hate him just wish he wasn't forced down our throats, let him lose legitametly sometimes! No ref bump or interfernce ect...
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:56 pm
rose2 Just curious how could you have the DVD it doesn't come out for awhile. Unless you have a dvr or something. Don't you worry about that. The " ninja " is suppose to mean something. xd Lets just say I have connections.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:09 pm
champ1023 [M]a.r.t.s Gosh...I'm tired of these anti-cena treads...
we all know that he sucks...we all know why we hate him and it comes to the same reasons...the only difference between every ppl whos gonna talk about it is that they gonna use other words to say that:
1-) He has limited skills
2-) He has been pushed too much and too fast
3-) 90% of his match sucked since he turned face
4-) He has been the champ for WAY TOO LONG...
5-) He's not the next big thing Vince thought he was and he can't admit it (that's why we suffer that much)
6-) He tarnished the WWE reputation for the real fans
7-) His spinner belt suck
8-) His new "Marine" gimmick is boring
9-) Most ppl liked more his rapper gimmick from the beginning of 2003
And I can go on and on like that... 1.) Wrong, he has skill. Watch him in OVW. 2.) He got pushed 3 years into his career in WWE. That's normal, people loved him...what more reason do you need to push a guy? 3.) Not really, Him vs Jericho owned, the LSM match with Umaga owned, HBK vs Cena at mania owned. Him vs JBL at judgment day owned(that match kicked a**, nobody can deny that). He has had some awesome a** matches, not classics like some people but he has had some good one. 4.) I do agree and that is the MAIN reason he is hated. 5.) I do agree, Vince expected him to be the biggest thing since Hogan. He still could be but he needs the belt off him and a heel turn for that to happen. 6.) He did no such thing, you contradicted yourself from the fifth one. VINCE tarnished the WWE's rep. by forcing the guy to do something he has said numerous times he doesn't wanna do. 7.) Agreed, it is lame although him changing it wasn't his choice, it was Vince's and you all can say it all you want but the prestige is still there, it will never leave. Not even an ugly thing such as the spinner belt can change that. 8.) Agreed, lame.as.hell. WWE needs to stop with the movies. 9.) That was obvious, he owned with that gimmick. His mic skills owned, his in ring skills owned. This push that vince gave him ruined a lot in that guy. All in all, you shouldn't hate the guy for doing what his boss tells him to do. Hate the boss. He is doing what each and every worker in the world does, listening to his boss...if you hate a guy for that you either 1.) Are to young to understand or 2.) Dumb as hell. I am sticking up for this guy WAY to much but this needs to be said.
And for the prestige of the WWE title...you have to admit that it's not what it was before...when it's always the same person who has it...ppl get easily bored of seeing him retaining his title everytime...it can easily tarnish a title prestige...
I know it's not his fault if he's considerated like that and he's doing his job...but i'm just sick and tired of seeing him at the top principally for his entertaining skills...
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:47 pm
[M]a.r.t.s I was not sayin this as my arguments to hate John Cena (even if a few of them are)...I was just sayin the main points that comes out in every anti-cena treads...
And for the prestige of the WWE title...you have to admit that it's not what it was before...when it's always the same person who has it...ppl get easily bored of seeing him retaining his title everytime...it can easily tarnish a title prestige...
I know it's not his fault if he's considerated like that and he's doing his job...but i'm just sick and tired of seeing him at the top principally for his entertaining skills... Ok then, that's one person who has come to terms with the fact that it's Vinny macs fault. Only millions of others left. gonk Sure, it will lose it's prestige while HE has it but as soon as it goes back to the old belt(hope to god that's soon, I hate that belt) and someone else gets it that prestige will come back. It will never leave, it is just forgotten for periods of time.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:21 am
champ1023 [M]a.r.t.s I was not sayin this as my arguments to hate John Cena (even if a few of them are)...I was just sayin the main points that comes out in every anti-cena treads...
And for the prestige of the WWE title...you have to admit that it's not what it was before...when it's always the same person who has it...ppl get easily bored of seeing him retaining his title everytime...it can easily tarnish a title prestige...
I know it's not his fault if he's considerated like that and he's doing his job...but i'm just sick and tired of seeing him at the top principally for his entertaining skills... Ok then, that's one person who has come to terms with the fact that it's Vinny macs fault. Only millions of others left. gonk Wait a minute, wait a minute, we shouldn't blame Vince. Let's blame those Greeks for inventing wrestling, if it wasn't for them then there would be no wrestling/Cena. rolleyes
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:17 pm
Erik of the PWG champ1023 [M]a.r.t.s I was not sayin this as my arguments to hate John Cena (even if a few of them are)...I was just sayin the main points that comes out in every anti-cena treads...
And for the prestige of the WWE title...you have to admit that it's not what it was before...when it's always the same person who has it...ppl get easily bored of seeing him retaining his title everytime...it can easily tarnish a title prestige...
I know it's not his fault if he's considerated like that and he's doing his job...but i'm just sick and tired of seeing him at the top principally for his entertaining skills... Ok then, that's one person who has come to terms with the fact that it's Vinny macs fault. Only millions of others left. gonk Wait a minute, wait a minute, we shouldn't blame Vince. Let's blame those Greeks for inventing wrestling, if it wasn't for them then there would be no wrestling/Cena. rolleyes
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:14 pm
[M]a.r.t.s We shouldnt blame Vince...we should blame all these ppl who cheered him for months and made him thought he had charisma enough to get pushed to the top...Vince made what he thought the fans wanted cuz of their crowd reactions... Yeah, you could blame over 98% of the fans because almost every fan cheered him when he was on SD in the US title slot. Nobody boo'd him. Yes we could blame the fans for marking out for a guy that had a bright future but we have to blame Vince for screwing that mans career up(or almost doing it) by forcing the guy to do something he has said he doesn't want to do. All Vince has to do is take the belt from him, turn him heel and put him in the IC slot and everyone will be happy but noooo, Vince thrives on controversy and will do anything to shove it in the fans faces. Even if that means screwing someones career up for a few bucks and a laugh. xD Seriously though, it is mostly Vince and the writers fault.
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:34 pm
champ1023 [M]a.r.t.s We shouldnt blame Vince...we should blame all these ppl who cheered him for months and made him thought he had charisma enough to get pushed to the top...Vince made what he thought the fans wanted cuz of their crowd reactions... Yeah, you could blame over 98% of the fans because almost every fan cheered him when he was on SD in the US title slot. Nobody boo'd him. Yes we could blame the fans for marking out for a guy that had a bright future but we have to blame Vince for screwing that mans career up(or almost doing it) by forcing the guy to do something he has said he doesn't want to do. All Vince has to do is take the belt from him, turn him heel and put him in the IC slot and everyone will be happy but noooo, Vince thrives on controversy and will do anything to shove it in the fans faces. Even if that means screwing someones career up for a few bucks and a laugh. xD Seriously though, it is mostly Vince and the writers fault.
Writers are there to make feuds and stuff that they think fans will love to see so they will spend money to see it...
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:27 am
Omaga is strong but slow so I think john will win. Or Omaga mite get a chair and john will win by D.Q.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:07 pm
WTF man dont revive old threads...
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 am
I thought you meant Omaga, not Umaga.
Omaga is a underground wrestler who's matches could kill someone.
Don't get my hopes up. talk2hand
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:26 pm
i got hacked #3 john and oumaga have a match am the biggest john cena fan but am afraid he met loss his belt whttp://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/DDR_Fanboy_2008/John Cena/JohnCenaChamp.jpghat do you think.... Who the ******** is Oumaga?
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