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Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:37 am


Tone it down or leave the thread Lyme. And don't jump to conclusions either. No one was challaning any thing you said.

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I don't believe the original intention of Christmas was to celebrate Jesus' birth. It was to make the conversion process easier for pagans by setting a Christian theme to a Pagan holiday. My feelings on Christmas are mixed, but it's certainly become a time of year where I'm thankful to God for the family and friends I have to share it with, which makes me grateful for Jesus' birth, which makes me more than happy to celebrate it even though it's the wrong time of year. It'd be like me celebrating my birthday in September, but the key thing is, it's being celebrated.


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I can't really say I celebrate Christmas as the birth of Christ because to me, it's not the real birth of Christ. To me, it's like celebrating my birthday in September when I was really born in March. I celebrate the family, the love, the peace, but I don't celebrate the holiday. I celebrate Christ's birth later. If you want me to lie and say, "Oh, I celebrate Christmas because I'm Catholic!" then I'll lie and pretend I celebrate Jesus' birth on the 25th of December. But I really celebrate it in spring. I don't celebrate a holiday in winter except for commercialized Christmas, because I believe in love, joy, peace, and family togetherness. I believe it's a very good thing to have a day of the year set aside where you make sure to pay attention to those you love that you might otherwise have said, "Oh I'll talk to them later," with the full intention of doing so, but getting distracted by life.


These are both statments of beleive by the highlighted parts. I never challanged your post. I'm serious, honosety dosn't matter ot me for what i said. I don't care what your beleives are, I'm just happy you have them.

How ever. Posts like

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Jesus was born on April 17 5 BC according to this show that I watched. The magi probaby showed around December 20.

The reason why December 25 was choosen to to celebrate Christmas was because there was already a holiday. I believe it was a celebration of the sun god.

Thats the end of history lesson


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Yeah, Jesus was probably born around February or March, during lambing season when the shepherds stay out at night with their flocks.


Are not statments of personal beleive (what I asked for) these are stements of origin and history (what I didn't ask for and asked not be talked about)

We are now heavly off topic.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:59 am


If you both can't be nice, and get along, I will turn this...thread around and we won't go to Disney World!

*wink*

WatersMoon110
Crew


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:41 am


Its okay waters. I can handel it. if it continues i already plan to lock it.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:40 am


I'm sorry Pyro. I've been getting attacked everywhere I go lately and when you said that, I took it as an attack on my beliefs and jumped to conclusions. The fault is completely mine.

*wants to go to Disney World*

lymelady
Vice Captain


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:04 pm


Its something thats easly forgiven Lyme, if you forget, I used to be the exact same way.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:36 pm


How can you imply you were? What do you mean, it's forgiveable? Are you saying I sinned? Are you telling me I'm going to HELL? Nu!!!

Translates: I love you Pyro heart I wish you a good Christmas. One without aliens dressed up like Santa, but you never know, it does sound a bit kinky.

lymelady
Vice Captain


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:56 am


Kinky? Oh my yes! William Shatner kinky!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:03 pm


those two words should never be in the same sentance togather...

Anyway,

as far as i know, the reason Christians adopted this particular day is because it used to be quite a roudy, scandalous holiday much like Mardi Gras is today. They probably just wanted to celebrate somethign while the rest of the world was having a good time. There was no mass dedicated to the birth of christ, so they just decided to drop it in on Dec 25th. Makes sense really.

andyz cool


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:50 pm


Mind, I've said it three time now, no discussing origins unless its what you personly beleive and state it as such.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:14 pm


except this is documented fact, but thanks for playing mrgreen

andyz cool


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:42 pm


Escuse me? *sighs* I'm going to be blunt. I. Dont. Give. A. ********. Good enough for you? There is a thread where facts can be discussed, and its not this one. This one is for beleifes and beleifes alone. If you can't follow what is typed on the first page, then don't post. Better. this thread is now locked since no one can seem to grab the gist of it. I'm sorry I ever waisted my time mackign it. Good day.
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