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 Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:02 pm
WickedIllusions All I know is that it is Duncan or Logan because Rob Thomas said so on the tv guide site... where do u find that site. anyway. Duncans at the door, Logan jumped off the brige and lived, Weevil is some where, Waluses mom is dating Veronicas Dad.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:14 pm
You can't be sure. I hope it is Duncan at the door though.
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:23 pm
Ausiello: OK, which do you want first the good news, the bad news or the really bad news? The good news? OK. Warner Bros. is putting out Veronica Mars: The Complete First Season. Now for the bad news: It drops Oct. 11 three weeks after Season 2 debuts. And now for the really bad news: The extras kinda-sorta blow. In addition to the never-before-seen alternate pilot, all you'll get are some deleted scenes and bloopers. So why is a cool show like Mars being so cheap on the bonus features? Allow exec producer Rob Thomas ?aka The Coolest TV Producer on the Planet (Next to J.J. Abrams) to explain:
"This is kind of a sad story. A couple of months ago, Warner Home Video gave us an option. They said, 'If you wanna do it up right with the bells and whistles and the commentaries, we can release it in January '06. If you wanna just get it down and dirty and just get the episodes out and do a few bloopers and some deleted scenes, we can get that out before the season starts.' Well, [exec producer] Joel [Silver] and I talked about it and we felt it was important to get the DVD out before the season started. That way, people who didn't watch it last year can catch up. So we made the decision to go with the early release ? without the bells and whistles. We were hoping for the second week of September since we're returning in the third or fourth week of September. Anyway, they just told us [the DVD] is going to be out the second week of October, and it's because The O.C. and Desperate Housewives are coming out in September, and they just didn't want to fight that battle. But now I feel like we didn't get either of the things we wanted: We don't have the bells and whistles and we're not coming out before the season started. I'm not happy about that." Me neither. Sigh...
Ausiello: So what are these changes UPN president Dawn Ostroff wants you to make to Veronica Mars next season? I'm worried.
Rob Thomas: They're not major. She wants more presence from twentysomething characters in the show. She wants a bit more diversity in the cast. And she wants it sexier, which we feel we're accomplishing by playing up the Logan-Veronica-Duncan triangle in Season 2. They're not jamming us too hard on anything that hurts the integrity of the show.
Ausiello: What twentysomething characters? New ones?
Thomas: I know the Tara Reid rumor got out there, which really tended to freak people out. Per UPN's notes, they feel like, "We're putting you guys after our top show ? America's Next Top Model ? and we want you to retain some of the audience. So put somebody in there who represents that age group." Which was fine. I had planned on adding a sort of trophy wife/stepmother to Beaver and d**k Casablancas next season. And then we were just putting lists together of people who could play her and Tara Reid was on a list. I'm not sure how it got to the point that we had hired her, but that's not going to happen.
Ausiello: Tara Reid's not going to happen?
Thomas: Right.
Ausiello: Phew.
Thomas: But the character is ? at least partially to address UPN's desire to get more of a twentysomething presence. They wanted us to have Veronica take some college classes to bring more twentysomethings into the show.
Ausiello: You're joking. Please tell me you're joking.
Thomas: It's not even creatively that I hated that note. I didn't. It's just that we're so stretched financially. And budgetwise, I don't have college sets; I don't have college actors. It would have been a huge budgetary problem, so we're trying to address the twentysomething note in a more financially prudent way.
Ausiello: Tell me a little bit more about the trophy-wife character.
Thomas: She'll be in her mid-twenties, a former Laker girl. Think Bonnie Bakley but with better looks.
Ausiello: The diversity thing kind of baffles me. Your cast is already pretty diverse.
Thomas: That's what I thought, too. [Laughs] They have asked for another African-American female in our cast, which we are going to do. She will be a student.
Ausiello: What about rumors of a new, older love interest for Veronica?
Thomas: That was just one of the things they threw up on the board. And it was all wrapped up in that "Veronica can take college classes and maybe she can become involved with an older guy" thing, which made me think, "Didn't we do that last year?"
Ausiello: Do they watch the show?
Thomas: They do watch the show. It's funny, following Top Model, they're really hitting us to appeal to that audience. And I'm happy to do that as long as the integrity of the show remains. The 28-year-old trophy-wife stepmother is sort of a traditional noir character, so I'm happy to include it. I think we can find a happy balance between art and commerce.
Ausiello: Is it true that you're killing off a major character?
Thomas: No. The thing I read was in Episode 6 we're gonna kill off one of our main characters, and that's not true. But in order to make the budget work, a number of actors on the show lost a few episodes in their contracts. I wouldn't have done that of my own volition. That was forced on me.
Ausiello: Were Logan or Papa Mars impacted?
Thomas: No, it's not Logan or her father. It's just about everyone else.
Ausiello: Are we talking drastic reductions? Like some characters are only gonna be in one or two episodes?
Thomas: No, no, no. Far from that. It's like one went from 22 to 16. One went from 16 to 12.
Ausiello: Weevill (Francis Capra)?
Thomas: He's gone from 16 to 12.
Ausiello: Deputy Leo (Max Greenfield)?
Thomas: Max has a new comedy [Modern Men] on WB next fall. Max is one of my favorite people to work with. He has said any day he has off he's willing to come down to San Diego and shoot Veronica Mars. I actually have him written into a scene in the first episode. The question is whether his schedule and our budget will allow it. But the scene won't be, "He's going away!" I think we could always go back to Deputy Leo. I like having him handy. I like Veronica having a relationship with somebody in the local sheriff's department.
Ausiello: Aaron Echolls (Harry Hamlin)?
Thomas: We actually have him in the budget for two episodes. Seeing Aaron again in Season 2 around the time his trial rolls around is something we're planning on; it's on our storyboard. But at the same time, we're going to introduce a couple new important sets of parents, in the same way we got to know the Kanes and Ackles in Season 1.
Ausiello: Whose parents?
Thomas: One will be the father of the new African-American character, who we have not cast yet. I think the name of the character is Terrence Chase, and his daughter is Jackie Chase. And then we're going to meet a character who's running for mayor named Woody Goodman, and he's going to have a daughter who goes to the high school, who we never met. We'll introduce her.
Ausiello: What about Amanda Seyfried, who played Lilly Kane? Will we see her again?
Thomas: There are no plans to see her. Again, we adore her. She was such a money character for us this year.
Ausiello: And Alyson Hannigan?
Thomas: She also has a new series [CBS' How I Met Your Mother]. But if we can work it into her schedule and we've got a story line that would work for her, we'd love to see her.
Ausiello: OK, I've got a couple story-line-related questions: Is Logan's mother really dead?
Thomas: Yes.
Ausiello: Will Veronica and Wallace become stepsiblings this year?
Thomas: I don't wanna give that away.
Ausiello: Who's at the door?
Thomas: [Laughs] This is what I will tell you: I feel like our audience will feel cheated if it's anyone other than Logan or Duncan. A lot of people online have made very valid cases why it would be Wallace, and that the reaction Veronica gives would only be for her true friend, and I understand that. And yet, we have set Logan-Veronica-Duncan up as the first leg of the romantic triangle of Season 2, and I feel like it would really disturb the fans if we copped out on that answer. And I'm not going to cop out on that.
Ausiello: What can you tease about this season's overriding mystery?
Thomas: It'll be significantly different from Season 1. It won't be, "A friend of Veronica's dies and she seeks justice." It will have a different flavor, a different motivation than that. And yet people can assume that we're not going to do a 22-episode mystery about insurance fraud. So it'll be big.
Ausiello: It all sounds great, but I have to admit: I'm troubled by the level of interference on UPN's part.
Thomas: Last year for four or five episodes they were in our grill, and it was a very difficult working environment. But once they started seeing the cut episodes and they started airing and getting feedback, they became incredibly supportive ? the most supportive environment I've ever been in.
Ausiello: And now?
Thomas: They are nervous once again. They have given us their best time slot and they want this to work. So, again they're back in our... [pauses] the notes calls are taking a little longer and we're having a minibattle here on the first episode. But right now we're not shooting anything or writing anything that I'm not happy with, so they haven't tinkered us into silliness.<
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:25 am
July 14, 2005 CHARISMA CARPENTER AND STEVE GUTTENBERG JOIN THE CAST OF VERONICA MARS
Charisma Carpenter ("Angel") and Steve Guttenberg ("The Poseidon Adventure") have joined the cast of UPN's VERONICA MARS, beginning with the critically acclaimed drama's second season premiere.
Carpenter will play Kendall Casablancas, a sexy trophy wife and stepmother to brothers d**k (Ryan Hansen) and Cassidy "Beaver" (Kyle Gallner) Casablancas, two of Veronica's (Kristen Bell) rival, affluent schoolmates. She will appear in at least six episodes. Meanwhile, Guttenberg will star as Woody Goodman, a charismatic major league baseball team owner and leading candidate in the local race for mayor of Neptune, Calif. To show his support for the community, his daughter will be transferring from her private school to Neptune High. He will appear in at least seven episodes.
Carpenter recently completed shooting the feature film "Voodoo Moon" opposite Eric Maibus. In television, she portrayed the character Cordelia Chase for seven years on the hit series "Angel" and "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," after originally being featured in a recurring role. Later, she returned to "Angel" for one episode as a guest star for the series' landmark 100th episode.
In television, Carpenter recently guest starred on "LAX" with Heather Locklear, as well as on several episodes of "Charmed." She also co-starred on "Miss Match" with Alicia Silverstone and Ryan O'Neal. In addition, Carpenter starred in the title role of the television movie "See Jane Date," based on the book by Melissa Senate. She has also appeared in several other television shows and feature films.
Steve Guttenberg, who has starred in a dozen films that earned in excess of $100,000,000 at the American box office, is the star of the upcoming television movie "The Poseidon Adventure." The actor starred in four successful series of films: "Police Academy," "Three Men And A Baby," "Short Circuit" and "Cocoon," as well as such acclaimed dramatic hits as "Diner" and "The Boys From Brazil."
His television credits include the mini-series "The Day After" and "Miracle On Ice."
He has a number of directorial efforts, including "P.S., Your Cat Is Dead," the film version of the respected James Kirkpatrick play, which Guttenberg also starred in, wrote and produced.<
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:49 pm
Kristin has also confirmed that it's either Duncan or Logan at the door, and has also tossed us poor fans a few more spoilers for the new season. whee But before you go clicking the link that I have up, I have to tell you that it also has a few more spoilers for other shows within the page as well as the whole chat. xp
And Neptunesite also has a few spoilers up for the new season. whee
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:08 pm
Thanks! I haven't checked Neptunesite in a while and never even heard of the other one.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:40 am
In a loverly email that I found waiting for me in my delightful inbox, *Rob Thomas let it slip that it's Logan at the door* <--Highlight to read. And please don't kill me if it's incorrect. xp
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:23 pm
I wont kill you if it is incorrect, I will actually be happy. I hope that was just a fake slip to make people think that. I want it to be Duncan.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:51 pm
Ah! The guessing its fun to read. lol I'm trying not to read spoilers. I'd rather get my hopes up then have them crashing down the second the show airs. xp
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:09 pm
I hallve been reading all the spoilers, I just can't stand the wait.
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:18 pm
marshjazz I hallve been reading all the spoilers, I just can't stand the wait. I would be like that to if I didn't have work and school. So I guess I'm lucky in a way. xd
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:15 am
I'm guessing that season 2 spoilers are going here! This is taken from eonlines " Watch with Kristin." She does a column and chat every week, and this is normally full of spoilers and gossip from all our fave shows. This is what she has learnt about VM season 2... (Taken from her weekley chat transcript). It's all in white, for those that don't want to read, so just select away, if you do! From davidbellum: What did Rob say about the new mystery on Veronica Mars?
His words: "I think the new murder mystery. Murder? Did I just say murder? The new big mystery...I think the new big mystery is fresh. It doesn't have the feel of last year's. It's not simply a friend of Veronica dies and we all...It has a whole new feel to it that I think is going to be compelling and bigger. And we were fortunate last year; the writers finished all our scripts when we still had time left in our contracts, so we actually spent the last month working on season two. So, we're way ahead of the game."
K: Is the mystery a murder?
R: There's death involved. There is death.
K: Somebody we already know?
R: Possibly. Possibly.
From ciahobella: How was the UPN Party!?
So fun. I rode the Ferris wheel with Duncan and Daddy Mars. It just may have been the highlight of my career. And actually, funny story, Enrico Colantoni agreed to go on the wheel with me on one condition: that I start a Save the Shave! campaign for him. I'll explain. Right now he has a goatee and is hell-bent on keeping it (have to say, it is rather sexay). Apparently, Les Moonves is insisting he shave it off, because he feels protagonists should never have facial hair. (Somebody tell that to Santa!) So, we're asking that you send a lock of hair to Les at CBS with a letter of support for Enrico's goatee. Save the Shave! And do it soon, 'cause they're starting to shoot this week.
From mandyhre: Did you chat up Kristen Bell?
Yes! So adorable, and I'll tell you more about the party in this week's column, but for now I can tell you what she says about the new mystery: "It's less personal, less close to home than the mystery of Lilly was. This is a more broad, helping-the-town kind of mystery, which is kinda cool, 'cause Veronica gets to be a little more outgoing and extroverted than she's used to. She's fighting for everyone, as opposed to just fighting for herself."
From francisco: Charisma! How was she? Hot?
Stuuuuunnnnning. (And worth every letter of that.) Told me she's been working out twice a day and is dying to be Wonder Woman. "My focus right now is a half-hour [series] or Wonder Woman," she says. "That would be too cool for school."
K: Do you feel like that's happening really soon?
C: I don't know. Ask Joel [Silver]; he's the producer.
K: Now I see why you're doing Veronica Mars.
C: Oh, no, no, no! Really, I'm friends with Rob, and I love this show.
From moonofblue: So, Kristin, did you get a chance to pinch Jason Dohring without wifey finding out? Personally, I would have gone with the "Oops, I spilled a drink all over your front! Let me help you clean that up."
Dammit, why didn't I think of that? No pinches, but I did manage to rack up a story that hence forth shall be called "Jason Dohring('s Manager) Hit On Me."
From innie6: Do you know who is going to be Jackie Chase on Veronica Mars?
Rob says they've narrowed it down to three actresses--none of them names.
From veronicarlz: Is there anything else you can tell us about VM? I need more info!
Enrico confirmed that he's goin to be running for sheriff, but doesn't think he's going to win "because they like me poor." Also, "I sold a book," he says. "I wrote the book Big Murder, Small Town. And oh, the first episode is so wonderful. We pick up not where we left off but a whole summer has gone by, so we're at the beginning of the school year, and then we...we like those flashbacks a lot, so we go back and explain what happened between Logan, how Logan gets away, who's at the door..."
((*This is probably the most iteresting comment!*))
From brandnewhero: Do you know who's at the door?
I do. But I pinky-swore Rob Thomas I wouldn't tell you, so please, don't hate me! Here's a hint, though: There is a clue in the final scene that will give you a slightly skewed hint if you look at it the right way!
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:39 am
There I whited out my spoilers. I'm sorry I didn't do it before but I forgot.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:00 pm
Kristen's new column on eonline came out today with lots of juicy details!! She's interviewed various cast members and here is her stuff... (all in white again, incase people wish to avoid spoilers!)
"It is so cool," Jason Dohring tells me of the first episode. "You're expecting who's at the door, but it goes beyond that. There's a thing that happened on the bridge that opens a whole 'nother story that sets up a mystery, so there are four separate things that go on that are huge, huge turning points."
Lest you're worried Jason's the one being written off, he confirms he's in every episode of season--and his overnight popularity has not gone to his head. "I still live with my folks 'cause I love it," says the 23-year-old, who just celebrated his one-year wedding anniversary.
Of course, Jason wasn't the only Veronica Mars star at Wednesday's UPN party--the entire cast and creator Rob Thomas were also there (and honestly, could not have been more lovable). Highlights you diehards should go ape-dung over (the rest of you can skip to number nine):
1. They All Knew: "We knew the murderer by episode two," Jason tells me, prompting me to raise my hand to smack him. "I'm sorry! We couldn't tell you! And actually, Rob tried to tell us later it wasn't [Harry] because he was afraid it would get out." He also had a contingency plan if word got out: Duncan would be the killer.
2. They All Know the Emmy Voters Suck: I think Francis Capra (Weevil) said it best: "We're still mad at them for not givin' that, homie. That was messed up, doggy. She [Kristen Bell] deserved that award more than anybody this year, man. Take that from me."
3. The New Mystery Will Be "Bigger and Better": This according to...everyone. Can't see how that's possible, but here's the scoop according to my favorite (shhh, don't tell), Teddy Dunn, aka Duncan: "The new mystery? There is a murder, or murders. I should say death, or deaths. It is not exactly clear if it's a murder or not, but you do find out within the first minute who's at the door." Er...huh? Rob Thomas simply says, "The new mystery is big. If something happens, and you're wondering if that's the new mystery, it's not."
4. The Person at the Door Is... "I still don't know!" Kristen insists (or rather, fibs; see item one)."But I think Duncan is at the door, because if you create a Romeo-and-Juliet scenario, you have to satisfy your audience, and I think that Duncan would do that. They are star-crossed lovers, and I would be most satisfied, and I think the audience as well. Even the people that think they want Logan, I think that Duncan would satisfy them more. So, I hope it's Duncan!" Rob Thomas has a different take: "It's strange. It was the study-hall teacher, Mr. Wu. A lot of people didn't see that coming. But when she says, 'I was hoping it would be you,' he turns around and says, 'It's Wu!' " (How pissed would you be if he wasn't kidding?)
5. Deputy Leo Will Be Back--But Not for Long: As you can see from the highly professional photos we took (that's me trying to flash a "VM" at the bottom), I spent a little time in a photo booth at the WB party with Max Greenfield, aka Deputy Leo, aka the guy I'm still convinced is a dead ringer for a dark-haired Scott Speedman (if only for the voice). Though he is coming back to Veronica Mars, it won't be for more than an episode or two, because he has a new midseason WB comedy called Modern Men. The good news, for him, is that it's a Jerry Bruckheimer series and looks cute. But of course, he will be missed. (And FYI, Max could not be a sweeter guy. He actually spent a good half-hour or so humoring Richard from Beauty and the Geek--one of the rudest and cockiest people I've ever met, no joke.)
6. The Self-Proclaimed "b***h in the Bikini" Is Fierce! Charisma Carpenter, who's been hitting the gym twice a day and "doing a ton of cardio" to prep for her bikini scene, says her character will give Miss Mars a run for her money. "Veronica better watch her back. She may be a tough cookie, but she's never really dealt with such wicked fierce competition. My character was a Laker girl, you know. I'm just more experienced at being a snotty-nosed brat."
7. The Kiss Was "Weird": When I gushed about the kiss (you know, the kiss between Logan and Veronica) to Rob Thomas, he replied. "That's really cool. Here's the thing: I was a little disappointed in it." Say wha? "The script said 'he devours her,' and I felt like it came off really romantic and sweet in a moment that I thought was going to be a little more twisted." Meanwhile, Kristen says it was a bit "weird because Jason and I are such good friends that we were kind of like, 'Um, do you wanna talk about anything?' He was like, 'No, I'm cool.' I'm like, 'I'm cool, too. You know, whatever.' So, we were like grade-schoolers about the whole thing, and it was weird, because he's like my brother, you know?" All I know is it was good.
8. The Necklaces Did Have a Point: Just not what you thought it was. I have the scoop from Jason and Kristen and will tell you in Monday's chat.
(will add the details from the chat at a later date, when chat has happened... )
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:16 am
*sigh* So depressing... Makes me wish that the new season was starting tomorrow, even though it's not a Wednesday. crying
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