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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:49 pm
[Q] You guys need to stop taking everything so seriously. This is a serious topic, hence why we are taking it seriously >.>
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:59 pm
Dukes ... Guys just drop it, everyone's enjoying making me their scapegoat, maybe once they do drive me off they'll realize I was right and that they were doomed to repeat it from the instant they tried to forget it. I don't think they mean to make you a scapegoat, you just seem so intend on what you call "Tackling the avoided issues", when people just want to stop being mad at everyone and talk about how great canned cheese spread can be when you're using it to sculpt a scale model of the leaning tower of cheesa, I mean, carry on your escapade if you wish, but lighten up a bit occasionally in at least one thread
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:12 am
Dukes ... Buzz... let it go... they're happy with doing it to me, they'll just get on you next once I get fed up enough to leave. At this rate that won't be long... wonder who the next scapegoat will be... Me. I mean honestly GCSGers. Dukes is just being realistic. I hate when people walk around, like the world owes them a joyful exictence. Makes me sick. I agree with Dukes.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:41 pm
Mr. Sellophane Dukes ... Buzz... let it go... they're happy with doing it to me, they'll just get on you next once I get fed up enough to leave. At this rate that won't be long... wonder who the next scapegoat will be... Me. I mean honestly GCSGers. Dukes is just being realistic. I hate when people walk around, like the world owes them a joyful exictence. Makes me sick. I agree with Dukes.  Shh! Be careful what you say, they might decide you want it!
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:43 pm
Dukes Mr. Sellophane Dukes ... Buzz... let it go... they're happy with doing it to me, they'll just get on you next once I get fed up enough to leave. At this rate that won't be long... wonder who the next scapegoat will be... Me. I mean honestly GCSGers. Dukes is just being realistic. I hate when people walk around, like the world owes them a joyful exictence. Makes me sick. I agree with Dukes.  Shh! Be careful what you say, they might decide you want it!
You're also being obsessively cynical, I fear
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:47 pm
 I'm tired of him spreading the blame for something that is not everyone's fault, and I'm tired of him trying to 'make known' something that most people were present for, and those who weren't probably know by now. It really doesn't need to be discussed any further, and if you feel is if you absolutely have to, do it in privete so that you don't continue the drama.
Besides, most of us were here, we saw what happened to Nymphie and Meru, and I can assure you none of us would let that happen again. Do you really think we're so stupid that we'd let that happen to one of our own again? =/
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:50 pm
I am trying to move on and change for the better Buzz, and just to be sure, I did apologize to Meru in private and I am sorry for anything I caused.
As for the flaming of a certain user, he shouldnt post in a thread just to say hurtful things or attack people. If you cant say anything nice, don't say anything at all. I just ignore those statements and move on to try and prevent further problems.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:01 pm
The reason Dukes sometimes makes me mad is that it seems to me, IN MY INTERPRETATION of his posts, that he sees things in such a black-and-white-things-are-bad-but-they-won't-be-better-ever-so-lets-all-be- -frumpy-and-grumpy-and-not-smile-or-joke-or-laugh-cause-it's-a-crime- -and-I-will-be-shot-if-I-even-think-about-this-thing-they-call-hope'' manner that bugs me. (I tried to put in a little humor.... don't take offense to being the brunt of my teasing, please, Dukes.) But other than that, I try to not get mad.
Getting mad leads to yelling. Yelling leads to more Yelling. More yelling leads to Deafness Deafness leads to not be able to hear each other. We don't need to be deaf. We need to hear each other and listen. I love you all.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:30 pm
Return_of_Watanuki-san The reason Dukes sometimes makes me mad is that it seems to me, IN MY INTERPRETATION of his posts, that he sees things in such a black-and-white-things-are-bad-but-they-won't-be-better-ever-so-lets-all-be- -frumpy-and-grumpy-and-not-smile-or-joke-or-laugh-cause-it's-a-crime- -and-I-will-be-shot-if-I-even-think-about-this-thing-they-call-hope'' manner that bugs me. (I tried to put in a little humor.... don't take offense to being the brunt of my teasing, please, Dukes.) But other than that, I try to not get mad. Getting mad leads to yelling. Yelling leads to more Yelling. More yelling leads to Deafness Deafness leads to not be able to hear each other. We don't need to be deaf. We need to hear each other and listen. I love you all. ... I'd rather be than be in a Naively-pretend-forgetting-it-ever-happened-so-that-I-can-have-a-drama-free- period-of-time-pretending-nothing-is-wrong-regardless-of-who-could-get-hurt- in-the-future-will-make-it-all-better manner, even though I actually don't think things will never be better, just that people need to accept the blame for what happened and learn from it so that it doesn't happen again, then proceed with life.
And Alain, if it wasn't everybody's fault I wouldn't be saying it. You don't seem to get that it wasn't just the nay-sayers hurting the VCs, it was the lack of anybody whatsoever defending the VCs. Also, you're already letting it happen, that's Buzz's whole point, but you don't care.
And now I've gone and posted here in a thread I don't even want.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:33 pm
Dukes Return_of_Watanuki-san The reason Dukes sometimes makes me mad is that it seems to me, IN MY INTERPRETATION of his posts, that he sees things in such a black-and-white-things-are-bad-but-they-won't-be-better-ever-so-lets-all-be- -frumpy-and-grumpy-and-not-smile-or-joke-or-laugh-cause-it's-a-crime- -and-I-will-be-shot-if-I-even-think-about-this-thing-they-call-hope'' manner that bugs me. (I tried to put in a little humor.... don't take offense to being the brunt of my teasing, please, Dukes.) But other than that, I try to not get mad. Getting mad leads to yelling. Yelling leads to more Yelling. More yelling leads to Deafness Deafness leads to not be able to hear each other. We don't need to be deaf. We need to hear each other and listen. I love you all. ... I'd rather be than be in a Naively-pretend-forgetting-it-ever-happened-so-that-I-can-have-a-drama-free- period-of-time-pretending-nothing-is-wrong-regardless-of-who-could-get-hurt- in-the-future-will-make-it-all-better manner.
And Alain, if it wasn't everybody's fault I wouldn't be saying it. You don't seem to get that it wasn't just the nay-sayers hurting the VCs, it was the lack of anybody whatsoever defending the VCs. Also, you're already letting it happen, that's Buzz's whole point, but you don't care.
And now I've gone and posted here in a thread I don't even want. Yes, I realize that we can't sweep this one under the rug, and your attitude may be the right one for this situation, but you do seem to look at life in general, even when the guild is okay, in that frumpy-grumpy-having-a-little-hope-is-not-even-anywhere-near-okay manner that is so Dukes-esque.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:36 pm
Return_of_Watanuki-san Dukes Return_of_Watanuki-san The reason Dukes sometimes makes me mad is that it seems to me, IN MY INTERPRETATION of his posts, that he sees things in such a black-and-white-things-are-bad-but-they-won't-be-better-ever-so-lets-all-be- -frumpy-and-grumpy-and-not-smile-or-joke-or-laugh-cause-it's-a-crime- -and-I-will-be-shot-if-I-even-think-about-this-thing-they-call-hope'' manner that bugs me. (I tried to put in a little humor.... don't take offense to being the brunt of my teasing, please, Dukes.) But other than that, I try to not get mad. Getting mad leads to yelling. Yelling leads to more Yelling. More yelling leads to Deafness Deafness leads to not be able to hear each other. We don't need to be deaf. We need to hear each other and listen. I love you all. ... I'd rather be than be in a Naively-pretend-forgetting-it-ever-happened-so-that-I-can-have-a-drama-free- period-of-time-pretending-nothing-is-wrong-regardless-of-who-could-get-hurt- in-the-future-will-make-it-all-better manner.
And Alain, if it wasn't everybody's fault I wouldn't be saying it. You don't seem to get that it wasn't just the nay-sayers hurting the VCs, it was the lack of anybody whatsoever defending the VCs. Also, you're already letting it happen, that's Buzz's whole point, but you don't care.
And now I've gone and posted here in a thread I don't even want. Yes, I realize that we can't sweep this one under the rug, and your attitude may be the right one for this situation, but you do seem to look at life in general, even when the guild is okay, in that frumpy-grumpy-having-a-little-hope-is-not-even-anywhere-near-okay manner that is so Dukes-esque. ... I have an esque now? Damn I'm cool.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:41 pm
 @Dukes: Did anything that anyone say actually better the situation? I actually respect those who didn't say anything more for not involving themselves in the senseless drama
And of coarse no one liked seeing Nymphie and Meru hurt that way, and none of us are going to forget. But for God's sake, we are all SO SICK OF ARGUING ABOUT IT. It's over, and we're still dealing with the aftermath. We're not trying to forget what happened and certainly none of us are going to let it repeat. Please, get it through your thick skull that all any of us want is a bit of peace
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:42 pm
Dukes Return_of_Watanuki-san Dukes Return_of_Watanuki-san The reason Dukes sometimes makes me mad is that it seems to me, IN MY INTERPRETATION of his posts, that he sees things in such a black-and-white-things-are-bad-but-they-won't-be-better-ever-so-lets-all-be- -frumpy-and-grumpy-and-not-smile-or-joke-or-laugh-cause-it's-a-crime- -and-I-will-be-shot-if-I-even-think-about-this-thing-they-call-hope'' manner that bugs me. (I tried to put in a little humor.... don't take offense to being the brunt of my teasing, please, Dukes.) But other than that, I try to not get mad. Getting mad leads to yelling. Yelling leads to more Yelling. More yelling leads to Deafness Deafness leads to not be able to hear each other. We don't need to be deaf. We need to hear each other and listen. I love you all. ... I'd rather be than be in a Naively-pretend-forgetting-it-ever-happened-so-that-I-can-have-a-drama-free- period-of-time-pretending-nothing-is-wrong-regardless-of-who-could-get-hurt- in-the-future-will-make-it-all-better manner.
And Alain, if it wasn't everybody's fault I wouldn't be saying it. You don't seem to get that it wasn't just the nay-sayers hurting the VCs, it was the lack of anybody whatsoever defending the VCs. Also, you're already letting it happen, that's Buzz's whole point, but you don't care.
And now I've gone and posted here in a thread I don't even want. Yes, I realize that we can't sweep this one under the rug, and your attitude may be the right one for this situation, but you do seem to look at life in general, even when the guild is okay, in that frumpy-grumpy-having-a-little-hope-is-not-even-anywhere-near-okay manner that is so Dukes-esque. ... I have an esque now? Damn I'm cool. Yes, you're that awesome to have an esque. Please know that I'm not trying to be mean or hurtful, I'm trying to just tell you to.... Stop being a Mr. Grumpy gills!
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:44 pm
system malfunction  @Dukes: Did anything that anyone say actually better the situation? I actually respect those who didn't say anything more for not involving themselves in the senseless drama
And of coarse no one liked seeing Nymphie and Meru hurt that way, and none of us are going to forget. But for God's sake, we are all SO SICK OF ARGUING ABOUT IT. It's over, and we're still dealing with the aftermath. We're not trying to forget what happened and certainly none of us are going to let it repeat. Please, get it through your thick skull that all any of us want is a bit of peace ... That's exactly the problem Alain, NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. What didn't help the situation, all the masses of people supporting the VCs? They didn't exist. Nobody was defending them.
And you're already letting it repeat, like I said, that was Buzz's whole point if you read, maybe you should get that through YOUR thick skull. -.-
All you want is peace, I've noticed and acknowledged that, I've also noticed that nobody cares about resolving the situation because they rather pretend the worls is perfect.
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:02 pm
Dukes system malfunction  @Dukes: Did anything that anyone say actually better the situation? I actually respect those who didn't say anything more for not involving themselves in the senseless drama
And of coarse no one liked seeing Nymphie and Meru hurt that way, and none of us are going to forget. But for God's sake, we are all SO SICK OF ARGUING ABOUT IT. It's over, and we're still dealing with the aftermath. We're not trying to forget what happened and certainly none of us are going to let it repeat. Please, get it through your thick skull that all any of us want is a bit of peace ... That's exactly the problem Alain, NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. What didn't help the situation, all the masses of people supporting the VCs? They didn't exist. Nobody was defending them.
And you're already letting it repeat, like I said, that was Buzz's whole point if you read, maybe you should get that through YOUR thick skull. -.-
All you want is peace, I've noticed and acknowledged that, I've also noticed that nobody cares about resolving the situation because they rather pretend the worls is perfect.  Maybe because a lot of people truly didn't agree with them? Besides, using your own words, a large portion of what set Meru and Nymphie off was said in private. How were we to know how poorly the were being treated?
And give me examples of how we're letting it repeat, and how we're ignoring it. I don't see any other GCSGers having nervous breakdowns, and I've seen people apologizing to Meru and Nymphie left and right and trying to make peace with eachother. In fact, you seem to be pretty much the ONLY person trying to stir the drama up again
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