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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:02 pm
I agree that we will never find them in this lifetime, but you must think, there is an infinite amount of space out there! think about it! NO END! everything exists, i believe, we are just oblivious to it.
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:46 pm
aliens exist
out there with the infinite space
there has to be other planets and life forms
we ourselfs are aliens to them eek
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:50 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:25 pm
i do believe in aliens ya know its just almost impossible that we r the only ones. i wonder when the will come question
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:23 pm
We have been here for many a century dude, if they were gonna come, they would have been here by now. wahmbulance wahmbulance
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:20 pm
However, there is always a chance
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:00 pm
I most certainly do believe in aliens. Though I have to disagree with your opinion that space is infinite, it is immensely large. But there's strong evidence that the universe is curved. And well, simple mathematical reasoning states that if there's a curve, it has to come full circle (or in this case, sphere) eventually. Sure, the chances of life forming are placed at one in one trillion, there are trillions of planets out there. So yes, there is other life.
Let's look at the basic elements of life, shall we? Carbon, phosphorus, oxogen, nitrogen, and something-else-but-I-forgot-what. Carbon should be the obvious one. Phosphorus is found in both DNA and RNA, so even if said life is coded similarly to a retrovirus, it's still going to have phosphorus. Oxogen is a component of sugars, as are nitrogen and carbon. Yes, sugars are very much essential to life; they're fuel. And the fifth is a component of lipids, therefore proteins.
Those five elements are among the most commonly found, not only on Earth, but on a lot of other planets. Obviously, it's not a lack of the materials that keep life from forming, but the proper conditions.
For obvious reasons (heck, just look at our nearest neighbors!), the rest of our immediate solar system is unsuited for life. BUT, our own galaxy has millions of similar systems. And the millions of galaxies all have millions (more or less) of similar systems. I'm understating the numbers for fear of overstating them; I'm well aware that the Milky Way Galaxy is much larger even than that, but not every star has planets.
If you just look at the numbers, disregard the science, the elements, the biology bit, it's impossible to believe that there is any chance that there is no other life out there.
Note that I never said (or even implied) that said alien species are necessarily intelligent. I'm not saying that we're alone in that sense, but just looking at the species on Earth, it stands to reason that anything capable of creating technology (if we use that as our judge of intelligence) doesn't come around often. So no, I don't think we'll have any Buggers on our hands.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:32 pm
I want to first congratulate you on posting the longest message yet to have been seen on Gaia. Secondly, the last source you are lacking is "amino acids." You're description is relatively correct. However, Earth is not the only planet in our system capable of holding life. They, as in NASA and other such spacial organizations, are looking to Mars and to the moon, which both at one time held plant life. Mars has not been touched by humans directly, but they are planning the first expedition to Mars in the coming decade to gather support for the creation of rule on Mars. I am not going to go into all of the territorial dispute in to this, but you can only imagine the implications it will involve.
As for your spherical theory, which could in all sense be true, you must ask yourself, what lies beyond that sphere? An outside space must exist. The sphere can not be the only space in the universe. Something MUST exist outside of it, even if it is just time. There can not simply be a sphere, which is why although I can understand your idea, I do not fully agree with it. An infinite space, how majestic it may seem, is truly the only explanation that can be seen as true from all standpoints, and it is the only theory that can not be disproved by trigonometrists.
Welcome to the Gaian F.B.I. by the way, I most enjoy your imput, it is very interesting. I had no idea that such a theory existed. However, our understanding will never tell us which of us is correct, since we are both wrong and both correct in all respects to our theories.
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:54 am
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:25 pm
What i think is that some where far far away, there are aliens woundering if there are aliens. To them we are the aliens.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:28 pm
Bacillus Anthracis I most certainly do believe in aliens. Though I have to disagree with your opinion that space is infinite, it is immensely large. But there's strong evidence that the universe is curved. And well, simple mathematical reasoning states that if there's a curve, it has to come full circle (or in this case, sphere) eventually. Sure, the chances of life forming are placed at one in one trillion, there are trillions of planets out there. So yes, there is other life.
Let's look at the basic elements of life, shall we? Carbon, phosphorus, oxogen, nitrogen, and something-else-but-I-forgot-what. Carbon should be the obvious one. Phosphorus is found in both DNA and RNA, so even if said life is coded similarly to a retrovirus, it's still going to have phosphorus. Oxogen is a component of sugars, as are nitrogen and carbon. Yes, sugars are very much essential to life; they're fuel. And the fifth is a component of lipids, therefore proteins.
Those five elements are among the most commonly found, not only on Earth, but on a lot of other planets. Obviously, it's not a lack of the materials that keep life from forming, but the proper conditions.
For obvious reasons (heck, just look at our nearest neighbors!), the rest of our immediate solar system is unsuited for life. BUT, our own galaxy has millions of similar systems. And the millions of galaxies all have millions (more or less) of similar systems. I'm understating the numbers for fear of overstating them; I'm well aware that the Milky Way Galaxy is much larger even than that, but not every star has planets.
If you just look at the numbers, disregard the science, the elements, the biology bit, it's impossible to believe that there is any chance that there is no other life out there.
Note that I never said (or even implied) that said alien species are necessarily intelligent. I'm not saying that we're alone in that sense, but just looking at the species on Earth, it stands to reason that anything capable of creating technology (if we use that as our judge of intelligence) doesn't come around often. So no, I don't think we'll have any Buggers on our hands. I agree. But they might be more inteligent then us. To inteligent for us to comprehend it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:33 pm
Monkeyinafryingpan We have been here for many a century dude, if they were gonna come, they would have been here by now. wahmbulance wahmbulance Maybe they are not evalved enough yet. Maybe in another centurey or two they will come or we will go to them. If we can't go very far in space yet than why should they be able to.
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:44 am
Yes, all of that is true. Who has the right to say that those things are not? Space IS infinite, so there has to exist somewhere out there more life. Why would we be the only planet with life? Over 99% of space is still out of our scope of sight. That is a lot of space.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:45 am
i do believe in aliens it just to imposable for us to be the onely living things in the universe.
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Monkeyinafryingpan Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:55 pm
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