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 Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:15 pm
This is my first year wearing one.. i only wear it to high school though.. since we are in US and so much bad stuff be happening, so my parents thinks i should wear one.. so i am 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:27 pm
Dark~Halcyon Gaheris x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I don't really think that the way women dress has much to do with whether or not a woman is raped. In many areas of the world where women dress very conservatively they are more likely to be raped than in the US. Sociologists and psychologists mostly seem to argue that because rape is about power and control over women, the key issue really is whether or not the men in the society respect women. It isn't about sex or lust, really. If it's a society where women can respect themselves and demand the respect they deserve, I think rape is going to be more rare, regardless of what they're wearing. And I also think that's the point of dressing modestly - everybody, whether man or woman, shouldn't be dressing for the purpose of attracting others. Internally that type of behavior puts into a person's mind, "Oh, I don't have value unless these other people think well of me!" I think the concern about women dressing in a sexual way to attract men just gets more attention than other kinds of dressing for other people. So, given that, I don't think that hijab is really necessary. Women (and men, too) should dress so that they feel modest, but I haven't been convinced by people who say there are specific requirements on what that means. Besides, have you seen the way some women look wearing fancy hijab with a touch of make-up and everything? It's way more noticeable (and sexual, I think) than going around with hair down or pulled back and no make-up. sweatdrop What's the point of saying somebody's modest for wearing hijab when they try so hard to flaunt what they're showing? Women wearing a loose t-shirt and jeans seem way more modest than some hijabi sisters I've seen. So Allah should've commanded us to remain plain and dull? I'd take hijab over "jeans and plain t-shirt" any day. The difference with hijab is that it removes the sexual appeal from looking pretty. One can still wear stylish clothes or clothes that let us express ourselves. And true, those hijabis who wear tight clothes and lots of makeup aren't following hijab correctly. But I will say this. I have never been hit on by male strangers, because I don't draw the attention of someone to be hit on or to have a sexual relation with. Well, of course, there will be those who will hit on hijabis just to make fun of them, but there are always bad people out there, and it won't be the fault of the hijabi since it was the guy's own malevolence that's at fault rather than the girl's revealed areas. And, I dunno. Your statements are dodging between two points. You say "Oh, people shouldn't dress to attract. People should be modest. People should command respect." That's what hijab does. Some very few may be able to pull that off internally, but following the requirements of hijab set in the Quran basically covers it all, both internally and externally. Also, hijab isn't only for preventing from lustful men. It's also a form of worship of Allah, a constant reminder of Allah. I think, sometimes... even, say, I was to leave Islam.. I would still probably wear hijab. Not saying I ever would, but that's how much I value it. some strong words there
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:36 pm
I do believe that hijab is a must. This is a command from Allah, and if you have strong faith in Allah then you'll know that Allah only wants what is good and right for you.
The hijab protects you from being harassed, and also shows who you really are. When people talk to you, they talk to YOU.. not your beauty/looks. They judge you by how you treat and talk to others, not by the way you do your hair or how much cleavage you show. If someone likes you, they like you for the person you are.
As for girls who don't wear the hijab, I suggest that you look into wearing it. You might think it's weird at first, but Allah will give you strength inshallah. People will see you as the wonderful person you are, and Allah will too!
And wouldn't you want a man to like/love you for who you are instead of the way you look or how you dress? (this is, of course, toward those of you that wanna get married..lol)
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:46 am
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x I see a lot of girls wearing their scarfs with their hair sticking out the back, or their bangs out the front. Do you guys think that's ok or acceptable? (to girls) Do you wear a scarf? Why or why not? by the way, if it's not clear, i mean scarf as in hijab. sorry sweatdrop Well, all the questions were well-answered by our sisters abt the bangs and so forth ... As for the latter two questions, yes, I do wear a hijab and abaya to college. Why, well simply because it's a Devine Command ... and I think there's no otherwise when it comes to that, nah? ^__^
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:31 pm
Every muslim girl should wear one
espacially when they reach puberty
the punishment for girls who don;t
they are going to hung from their hair
Now that hurts
if ur wearing tight clothes and ur hair and bangs are showing from the front and back
then there is no point in even wearing one
that's all..
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:21 pm
Dark~Halcyon So Allah should've commanded us to remain plain and dull? no he didnt. Tradition islmaic clothing is simple like the abaya and because you're not supposed to judge people entirely on looks. and it helps equality. Take for example a man has the money to wear a nice suit but another can afford a low range suit. its not fair on the man with less money. Islam is about equality. practice it and you practice islam. Yeah wearing the clothes you want is what you want. its your choice entirely. but allah made a guideline for your own safety. Showing off your skin just makes you a target. and there are alot of perverts out there and we live in a world full of darkness. Theres rapists and ***** and killers. u just cant escape that fact. Like someone said, you wont be raped if u cover your self up because you arent showing yourself off. Dont wear a hijab. its your choice. but at least cover your self up. My sister wears a head scarf and she still gets to wear alot of nice clothes. so i dont know what your talking about plain and dull....
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:11 pm
Dark~Halcyon Gaheris x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I don't really think that the way women dress has much to do with whether or not a woman is raped. In many areas of the world where women dress very conservatively they are more likely to be raped than in the US. Sociologists and psychologists mostly seem to argue that because rape is about power and control over women, the key issue really is whether or not the men in the society respect women. It isn't about sex or lust, really. If it's a society where women can respect themselves and demand the respect they deserve, I think rape is going to be more rare, regardless of what they're wearing. And I also think that's the point of dressing modestly - everybody, whether man or woman, shouldn't be dressing for the purpose of attracting others. Internally that type of behavior puts into a person's mind, "Oh, I don't have value unless these other people think well of me!" I think the concern about women dressing in a sexual way to attract men just gets more attention than other kinds of dressing for other people. So, given that, I don't think that hijab is really necessary. Women (and men, too) should dress so that they feel modest, but I haven't been convinced by people who say there are specific requirements on what that means. Besides, have you seen the way some women look wearing fancy hijab with a touch of make-up and everything? It's way more noticeable (and sexual, I think) than going around with hair down or pulled back and no make-up. sweatdrop What's the point of saying somebody's modest for wearing hijab when they try so hard to flaunt what they're showing? Women wearing a loose t-shirt and jeans seem way more modest than some hijabi sisters I've seen. So Allah should've commanded us to remain plain and dull? I'd take hijab over "jeans and plain t-shirt" any day. The difference with hijab is that it removes the sexual appeal from looking pretty. One can still wear stylish clothes or clothes that let us express ourselves. And true, those hijabis who wear tight clothes and lots of makeup aren't following hijab correctly. But I will say this. I have never been hit on by male strangers, because I don't draw the attention of someone to be hit on or to have a sexual relation with. Well, of course, there will be those who will hit on hijabis just to make fun of them, but there are always bad people out there, and it won't be the fault of the hijabi since it was the guy's own malevolence that's at fault rather than the girl's revealed areas. And, I dunno. Your statements are dodging between two points. You say "Oh, people shouldn't dress to attract. People should be modest. People should command respect." That's what hijab does. Some very few may be able to pull that off internally, but following the requirements of hijab set in the Quran basically covers it all, both internally and externally. Also, hijab isn't only for preventing from lustful men. It's also a form of worship of Allah, a constant reminder of Allah. I think, sometimes... even, say, I was to leave Islam.. I would still probably wear hijab. Not saying I ever would, but that's how much I value it. Alot of girls in the world dress nicely and havent get hit on by stranger guys , specialy if your talking about living in the western countries..like USA/ENGLAND...ETC. , guys there are used to see girls with hair up or down and they dont even look unless they are dressed in a wrong attracted way I still dont see why its very important , I put my hair up or down and do pretty things with it yet dress nicely and havent got weird looks or got hit on by guys..
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:33 pm
x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x Yeah, it does. A lot of girls at my school don't seem to get that. I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I just felt like saying that this is incorrect-- modesty should be done as a sign of self-respect and respect for your future or current partner, not as a deterrent to rape. Rape and molestation occurs because the attacker desires control-- instead of stabbing their victim with a knife, they stab them with their p***s. It is a way to create fear and exert control. The idea that women who are raped "deserve" it because of how they are dressed or present themselves or that they could have avoided it is barbaric and unfair to women-- it's not just pretty women or women dressed in revealing clothes that sexual crimes are committed against and even insinuating that the way you make yourself look has anything to do with it is a seriously sad and cruel thing to do to the thousands of innocent victims of sexual abuse out there. Anyway, I'm just reading through the guild because I'm considering converting to Islam. Unfortunately there are some every-day things I really don't agree with but a lot of the fundamental points I do. I do like hijab though and do agree with women choosing to be modest.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:09 pm
Hello. I hope it's all right that I am posting here. Feel free to remove my post if it isn't welcome, as I have no desire to be intrusive. I just like making friends with people when we have something in common. As a Jew, I have great respect for Islam, the other monotheistic religion; we are cousins in faith. I wanted to post in this thread to share a couple of websites where I've found some beautiful hair coverings, as well as other modest clothing. Though each place has a great many good things to wear, I'll describe only the things that I enjoy buying there. Islamic Sportswear & Swimwear: http://www.primomoda.comIslamic Skirts , Blouses, & Scarves/Hijabs: http://www.shukronline.com (also men's clothing) Blouses & Tees (sizes 14 and above, for the full-figured sisters): http://www.lanebryant.comBlouses, Underblouses, & Skirts (sometimes - be careful of slits): http://www.gap.comScarves, Caps, Hats, Snoods: http://www.tznius.comhttp://www.modestworld.comModest Swimwear (these will need you to buy your own spandex hijab to cover the hair; and order the 'extended arm/leg' style or they'll be too short): http://www.wholesomewear.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:41 am
Lady Adriata x.X.Innocent Passion.X.x Yeah, it does. A lot of girls at my school don't seem to get that. I mean, why do you think girls are raped or attacked? It's because they show so much skin, don't cover their hair, and wear tight clothes. I just felt like saying that this is incorrect-- modesty should be done as a sign of self-respect and respect for your future or current partner, not as a deterrent to rape. Rape and molestation occurs because the attacker desires control-- instead of stabbing their victim with a knife, they stab them with their p***s. It is a way to create fear and exert control. The idea that women who are raped "deserve" it because of how they are dressed or present themselves or that they could have avoided it is barbaric and unfair to women-- it's not just pretty women or women dressed in revealing clothes that sexual crimes are committed against and even insinuating that the way you make yourself look has anything to do with it is a seriously sad and cruel thing to do to the thousands of innocent victims of sexual abuse out there.. *agree* Yeah.. a Rapist will rape any girl he can trap.. I mean, if anything, I don't really get HIT on.. Like, I go to the mall ALL the time >=D, and I never get bothered.. then one time, I went with a hawt friend, and she got hit on like, 3 times that day.. I mean, it deters sane, normal guys who are looking for just a pretty girl.. not the perverts and rapists.. But like you said, Hijab is not for others, it is for ourself. And it kind of tests us.. Lots of us girls can sometimes get a little insecure about our looks. Hijab challenges this useless insecurity and kind of makes us realize that Hijab doesn't make us tone down, but kind of brings us out more. It makes us more striking and beautiful, in a strange way. Whenever I see girls who wear hijab at school because their parents make them wear it, they always exude an aura of low self-esteem and insecurity. They look dowdy and unattractive. But whenever I see true hijabis, I just love basking in their presence because they're so proud and defiant, and they are such colorful people. If you don't know why you're wearing hijab, don't wear it. Plus, the idea of Hijab filters out bad signals and keeps the important ones. Meaning, it takes out the sexual appeal, and keeps the personality appeal. I mean, I see no problem if a guy likes my style, because the types of clothes I wear DOES reflect my personality.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:38 pm
as a christian i cover my hair under a short white veil which i received from beachy amish friends and wear long skirts and the like,-and all i can say it cover if you feel God wants you to and if you 100% are willing to-otherwise dont because you are covering for the wrong reasons.i do agree that modesty is important.so many 'christians' on gaia believe that its acceptable to turn up in church,in God's presence in tight bellytops and cliny,torn jeans and casual everyday wear! (christianity is going down hill!) so its nice to see muslims and jews who cover up.
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