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nessy

Cuddly Hunter

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:09 am


heart @ Shiaree

Please do!

*goes to resubmit for stamping*
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:40 am


Wow, I love your new myth! It opens up a lot of possibilities for Guelmy's Fa'e life. XD

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nessy

Cuddly Hunter

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:12 am


^___^

YAY! You like it! I was worried a bit, but I figured with this myth, it would make some things I plan to do with him more sensical in the long run.

Like a deathly fear of women.

XD

Between his past life, his guardian, and the girls that all swarm him under in the village, he's going to be a bit nervy around them. It'll be fun.

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I feel SO much better that you like it. I was so worried it'd suck. Thanks so much, Cere!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:39 pm


Hok! The asspirating I promised! =D I am borrowing Arri's critiquing rubric, because it is so awesome.

Background:
As I've said in the stamping, this looks pretty awesome. Some minor nitpicks: "Magheriña was nearly forgotten. But would not be scorned again." That should just be one sentence.

"She was a priestess, and the gods were on her side! Even as Fogohome took his dying breath, she sent her brother to join the mboitatá in death." Wow, this is incredibly interesting. Were the gods really on her side? (It might be interesting if, for instance, one of the gods pleaded for either her or her brother to kill the Boitatá...) Was it because she had the blessings of the gods/some god that she had the strength to kill him, or was it merely one of this instinctual things going into overdrive?

Even though it's really interesting as it is now -- if I had read only this and nothing else I would've thought that your Fa'e would've been Magheriña reincarnated, especially near the end. If you could put more emphasis on the Boitata (I am too lazy to do the accents anymore sad ) -- for example, playing up the Boitata's death scene so it's obvious he's the focal point, what the ramifications of his death were (was Magherina regarded as a great hero afterwards for 'slaying' him? Was she cursed or blessed as a direct result of killing the Boitata?)

Also, I am interested in the creation of the Boitata... One of the references you quote says that some people believed it was the soul of an unlucky person, the other reference says it was a great serpent that survived a deluge... Which of these creation theories are you using?

After spending some time thinking about it, I've decided that I really like the "Let me tell you a story" nature of your background. You could write lots of little more legends, like one devoted to the creation/birth of the Boitata, another one detailing it tricking and misleading a person to its death, and then of course the one you have now about the boitata's death... Well, it'd probably take much less effort to include all that in your current legend, but it's just a thought. XD

After Rebirth:
Hmm, you don't have this section, but I think it's something you could do a lot of interesting things with. Where is Guelmy reborn, what's the culture of his people like, what beliefs and morals was he taught, ect?

Appearance:
You have some really weird grammatical structures in this section. XD; "Girls, at least the crazily religious ones of his villiage; love the green of his eyes though, bright as the foliage on the tropical trees of the Amazon rainforest he lives in." That semicolon in the middle of the sentence should be another comma though, and why do girls like the color of his eyes? You imply some religious reason -- which could be really interesting -- but don't explain what it is...

Two other nitpicks: "An oversized head? No way!" This confuses me -- what would make anyone think his head is oversized when, um, it's not (at least that's what I think you're getting at D: )? Is it the size of his eyes?

The slitting of his tongue thing is interesting too -- was it a ritual thing? Why did his guardian do it? (...DIDN'T IT HURT?? D: )

"He's human...but you can't tell by looking at him." From the rest of the physical description, he seems very humanoid -- he doesn't have a tail, or horns -- the only "Whuuu?" thing seems to be the scales, and some of the structures that the scales form, but nothing so drastic as to make people go "THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT HUMAN." Maybe a weird, perhaps even deformed kind of human, but still human.

What color is his skin?

"There are small fires, seemingly coming from nowhere, to look like small fin ridges on his forearms." Fires? Literal fires?

The entire "From the Feet Up" section seems to be redundant -- while we do need to know that from the waist down he's pretty much normal, there's no need to hit your visitors over the head with it. XD (I mean, of course we know he has feet.)

You may want to find some way to play up his snake-y-heritage some more... Scales are a good start -- what about the patterns on the scales? Obviously another naga would be dubious, but what about making him completely double-jointed so that he can at least move and bend like a snake could? Are his teeth normal, or does he have fangs (and can he inject venom? How did the Boitata kill its victims before?) Does he have ears (snakes don't)?

Perhaps he cannot see well at ALL in the daytime, but could sense things as snakes can -- by movement. The only time he truly 'sees' is at night.

Also, from what little I could understand of the Spanish websites I've browsed for more information about the Boitata (located here and here, the Boitata protected the plains/bushes/forest (I couldn't figure out which of these exactly) from those wanting to set them on fire/those who disrespected them... And that it was a deeply ravenous creature; the only way of saving yourself after encountering it was to close your eyes and remain completely emotionless, not even daring to breathe.

Personality:
Yaay, my favorite part! Ok, some things you could expand upon: how was he educated? I guess I would understand this better once you've described his village a bit more. When I went to the Amazon a few years ago, the village there had a single schoolhouse that took donations from researchers and visitors (like me! I brought them Dr. Seuss books 8D; ) Does he have any contact with modern Peru? Also, what kind of gods does he worship?

OH MAN FISHING. That reminds me, this one young boy was fishing and caught........ a baby alligator. (SORRY I know I am going on and on but this makes me so nostalgic, the Amazon was gorgeous, sighhh sad ) He was gonna keep it in his bathtub! Those crazy Amazonian people goiurhoier

I like that the others regard him as some kind of sign! Why is it that he is nervous, though? Do they expect him to perform miracles, or plan to sacrifice him? (Does he get well with outsiders because they don't put as much pressure on him?)

"This probably stems from his interactions with the outsider traders, who are dishonest men by profession" <--- I think you'll have to expand on this, because I don't understand how they are dishonest sad Unless you mean they hunt animals for their fur or whatever and trade them?

Abilities
OH WOW HE'S LITERALLY ON FIRE HAHA THAT'S AWESOME

Sorry, the mental picture just pleases me ;A;

Firewhips!!!!

Ok, more serious now.

I think the recharge ability is interesting too, though I think maybe you should make its connection to his mythbase more explicit -- explain that it was a ravenous hungry creature, blahblahblah. Does he need to do this to survive? As in, if he doesn't steal enough heat (because snakes are cold-blooded and need to stay warm to be healthy, right? I don't know this for certain.) he'll die? Especially since Gaia is probably a much colder environment than he's used to, and winter might pose a huge problem to him...

Guardian:
She sounds interesting. Not too much to say about her, just some questions -- what goddess does she serve, and how is her being a religious fanatic a weakness? XD (Do you mean she's bound to be very stern and disproving of anything that goes against her beliefs? What are her beliefs, by the way?)

Ok, I think that's it! Sorry it's so long. sad Let me know if you have any questions, I hope this helped!

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nessy

Cuddly Hunter

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:57 am


*flaiiiiiiiiiiiil*

Cere I seriously love you right now. Like homgwoah. Thanks so much for doing this, I was really needing it.

Okii, I'm going to explain things here, because I want to. Then I'm going to go back and change them.

Backround:

Yeah. I've got some grammar issues when I really get into something. I like to make up strange formations that aren't real. Which is why it helps to have someone proofread through crit. <3

As for the gods being on her side..it was part instinct, part that the gods were angry that she was being treated like some creme puff. She was their priestess, not some fluffball. Addressing the paragraph below..can you tell I love this character? I made her up while writing it, and she became something so cool to me. I even fretted about the end a bit, because it DOES center around her. It totally convoluted into something else, and I'm actually in the process of re-writing the end.

Creation is something I totally hadn't considered. I was too wrapped up in how he died, as that is a major part of becoming a Fa'e is the death. I'll definately go back and write another tale.

After Rebirth:

Hahaha. Yeah. Can I just say oops? and go from there? I do know I'm putting him on another planet. Dropping him in modern Brazil doesn't fit well with me, especially with the deforestation going on. That would just destroy Guelherme, as he loves the jungle to no end.

Appearance:

Again. I get excited, I make things up. I'll throw it into Word and clean it up a bit. <3 Thanks for pointing it out.

And the girls like his eyes, because they are big, green, and shiny. They're just girls, and he has really pretty eyes.

As for the "oversized head" comment, it was meant to be an attempt at witticism. I failed, it seems, which doesn't bother me. That part sounded stupid even to my ears. It was intended to be a "What? Are you expecting something crazy?" type deal.

Tongue Slitting: It was a ritual, I don't know what kind yet. I'm thinking maybe when he hit puberty she did it, forsaking the tattoos the others have. Hard to tattoo scales, you know?

Human refers to like everyone else. Not HUMAN, certainly. But humanoid yes. I wouldn't dare make another Naga, because that is stepping far too close to Nyoka for my taste.

Yes, literal fires. Like on his head. I'm thinking of changing it though, because it's really hard to put clothing on someone with flames all over his body. And a loincloth is just asking for it. That double jointed idea is fantastic. It would also amuse a boy, so it would work very well with his introverted personality. When he was bored, he could just go amuse himself by bending funny.

I would answer the rest, but saying "YES! GREAT!" multiple times wastes both of our time. I am seriously going to take everything into account. Ee, so exciting for me! ^___^

Personality:

They expect great things of him, or rather, of him. Any time something attacks the village, he is blamed, because something he did put them out of favor with the gods. He is the "holy representative" of the village, and some blessed sign. So, naturally, anything that happens, good or bad, is laid at his doorstep.

Outsiders don't understand this, and think it is silly. So they don't really care about all that, and like Guelmy for his oddities.

The traders are VERY dishonest. They come in, and swindle the hell out of the villagers, who don't know the worth of some of the things they trade. The men lie, cheat, steal, occaisonally murder a rival, and womanize. All things Indiamara does NOT want Guelherme to pick up on.

Abilities:

8D

I like that myself. I'm so woo over that power. And no, he's warm-blooded. But say he were to go out in the rain without a head covering, that would be a problem. Anything that DIRECTLY hits his fire affects it. Swimming, rain, possibly snow. Not entirely sure yet.

I was going to make him cold-blooded, but I couldn't face the idea of him killing a poor animal every day just to survive. That would make him so cold-hearted towards others and their pain. What would stop him from just killing people and stocking up on fire to be an all-powerful firething?

Though just writing that gives me a great personality weakness angle. Hm. Lemme work with it.

Guardian:

The pantheon is now more important than it was before. I'll have to google some names that'd make sense. And being a religious fanatic is a huge personality flaw, especially when you can't look past it into reality.

She eats, sleeps, and breathes her religion. If you say something that contradicts her beliefs, she might actually try and kill you. Certainly Guelmy, as a child, was smacked for saying anything remotely blasphemous. Another reason he fears women..it stems from Indiamara.

I really wanted to give Guelmy a guardian that he wasn't too attatched to. Someone who was just there, who just HAPPENED to end up with him. The bond that would develop for his Fa'e life is purely coincidental. The decendant of his murderess? Too good to pass up.

End.

WOW THIS IS HUGE. Like I said, I love you homglikewoah right now. This has helped me so much, and I appreciate it like you couldn't believe!

<3333333333333333
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:29 pm


I think addressed everything.

There's always room for work though.

nessy

Cuddly Hunter


kalindara
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:46 pm


No, head flamey is cool! It just means that he either goes shirtless, or wears shirts/vests etc. that button or tie up at the front, rather than go over his head.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:50 am


I will neeeeeeever eliminate that head flame. That is my ohmigosh favorite part of the whole dang thing.

I was thinking more about the arm finflares. We'll see. Maybe I can make them some sort of retractable or something.

nessy

Cuddly Hunter


kalindara
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:28 pm


I like the arm flares, too 4laugh heart

Did you need a second stamping for this? I wasn't sure from your post in the Stamp Request, thread. If not, have a second one just for being Full of Win heart

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:18 pm


I did need one, as I added a creation myth. Thanks!

*luffs on Kali for loving my quest*

HUGE ego boost there. Even if it doesn't win the contest!

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nessy

Cuddly Hunter


Trundlebug

IRL Noob

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:39 pm


Woah, I'm really impressed with your quest Nessy. o_o It being a Brazillian myth captivated me right off the bat. I really enjoy Guelmy's personality and especially his appearence.

All things said and done, I have a little nitpick for you...

About his head flame and the water: I don't understand why he should hold his breath for so long. How is this connected to the story? I don't remember reading anything about the snake and water, but I could be wrong.

Also, if he goes underwater, his head flame doesn't go out? o-o but it dims. It's just my personal opinion, but I would have thought it'd just have put the entire thing out.

Excellent quest though. I really enjoyed it. <3
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:50 pm


Mboitata does translate to river-dwelling fire snake, in a roundabout way. I think that's in one of the references. Maybe in one of the ones I saw but didn't put in there, I will check up on that.

And the myth is written by me, so it's probably not as good as a real one, but being a mythical creature, there really isn't a myth for him.

As for the water thing...chalk it up to mysticalwoowooness?

xD

Kidding. I'll work on that, seriously! Thanks so much for reading through it all, I really appreciate it! And I'm doubly glad that you enjoyed Guelmy!

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nessy

Cuddly Hunter


Kyribird

Aged Codger

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:16 pm


Ahaha. Okay. This is going to be veeery hard.

I can't find much that I don't like about it, or that needs to be changed. I do think that in addition to weaknesses due to the power, it'd be a nice thing to put weaknesses in general. Things that may have nothing to do with the powers themselves.

Does he have a secret weakness for roasted squirrel covered in chocolate? Is there something from his homeland that he'd miss when he came to Gaia that would make him weak or upset or something?

*fail*

So enraptured was he with her, that he failed to see, even with his great eyes; the band of warriors lurking not far from the precious Magheriña.

^ Should be:

So enraptured was he with her that he failed to see, even with his great eyes, the band of warriors lurking not far from the precious Magheriña.


Gratefully, she fell into his trap, and followed him deeper into the myriad jungle.

=

Gratefully she fell into his trap and followed him deeper into the myriad jungle.

The battle was great and it seemed that Fogohome would never be defeated, not even by such a legendary warrior. However, nobody accounted for Magheriña. Betrayed, abused, and terrified, she flew into a rage as no man had ever seen and no one realized. She was ignored and her brother told her to hide and wait for him to fetch her.

(XD Probably made mistakes myself, I fail at it, but I think it works a little better.)

In her immense anger and betrayal, she made a drastic move - one that even today our village blesses her for! She drove a knife straight into the beast's eyes.

With his eyes destroyed, he had no outlet for his fire. The flame slowly withered and his power diminished. Fabión realized his moment of glory had come and quickly killed the massive serpente. He was lauded as hero, the greatest power to ever walk the jungle floors.

Magheriña was nearly forgotten but would not be scorned again. She was a priestess and the gods were on her side! Even as Fogohome took his dying breath she sent her brother to join the mboitatá in death.

Even now the great statue of our dead hero and Fogohome and his mishappen conquest sits in our temple. It Reminds us that nothing, nothing, is invincible and that serpentes are the greatest danger of them all. After all, they are favored by the gods and by our priestesses....

And with that, she smiled slowly at Guelherme. A smile of rememberance, reminder, and maybe even repentance.

XD Okay, you get the point. A lot of comma splices, but you're not asking me to fix those *Bricked* Truly, though, I can't think of anything to really change other than that. You did an awesome job, hon.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:04 pm


Yeah, stepping in to add my heart !

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Heliodor Hasturien

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:18 am


Risth returns the favor! cool heart
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