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IHD, I have as much respect for you as I have for Zae, I'm sorry if I missed anything you said and none of my comments were directed towards you. smile

No offense taken; I haven't been that involved in many of the decisions as of late, anyways. @w@ I put in input, but people either don't tend to come to me, I'm quiet, or simply unavailable.

What I thought is that we could have a warning system as such:

1st warning
2nd warning
3rd warning - kicked out of game (if not in game, out of next game)
4th warning - kicked out of guild


However, we would need a CLEAR understanding of what is warn-worthy and what isn't. Obviously, anything that breaks the Gaian TOS (flaming/trolling/etc.) should receive a warn. I think we may, however, have some difficulty on the definition on the other areas. Such as "causing drama."

The definition of drama I am using here is the personal, dirty, borderline-flaming kind. Not the game-drama. The kind of drama that was never supposed to be here in the first place. It even says in the original rules that Zae came up that this isn't supposed to be here:



I think we have a very good definition of what is warn-worthy right there. Having a serious hatred towards someone and then harassing them, insulting them, etc. The issue, I suppose, is enforcing this rule.


By the way, I'm still here, guys. Could we please not go on with decisions until I get to see it if it's a big important thing like this is? ^^;; (Meaning the thread posted in the D) This is a tricky situation, and I can and will try my best to help it get solved, but we need cooperation between EVERYONE. Meaning all of us. @w@

Of course. We have to be very careful with this. whee It would be easy to go overboard, which we certainly need to avoid.

The problem is, that I see...is the drama leads to people hating each other, and they nuture that hatred. And then because no one stops them, they keep it going, and it bursts out when the rules Zae put down, even, dictate that it should be in private. Certain members of the guild feel completely free to put down others, flame, and insult.

This, really, is what needs to stop. Perhaps "drama" is the wrong label...and "flaming" is the correct one. We're certainly not going to stop the little spats, but it seems that it's been let go for too long...and only a few really conduct themselves in a civil manner when disputes come up. ^^;

No, your input is appreciated. ^^ *snugs* Don't worry about it~

I agree with you there, wholeheartedly. An argument, is an argument. There are insults of anger thrown back and forth. It happens.

When it gets to a point where it's just useless flaming and there is nothing of the argument left, then, that is when, I think, it is time to crack down.

Oh, and if needed, I can write up said announcement on what we're doing. >_>; I have some specific ideas in mind, anyways.

I'd post it here, and then we can all look over it...and if it's all right, it would be moved to the D.

Is there going to be any kind of record clearing or whatever? Like... every two games, you start off with a clean slate (no warnings)? I'm not saying there HAS to be. It's just a suggestion.

Maybe, if we see something that is drama that MAY become flaming, we could warn them in their thread. That's just so they know they're in danger of an official warning if they don't stop/tone it down/take it to the PMs.

Also, I had another idea last night before I went to bed~
For warnings that people disagree with, there could be some type of appeal system. We would reconsider each aspect of it. If we do not decide to undo the warning or whatever, we could have some form of a jury (which I'll describe in a sec) that would decide whether or not it deserved a warning. The jury itself would be a possibly fixed (?) group of people that are known to be very neutral and not involved in drama. They wouldn't be any of the VC's. We could start making a list or something here, if you guys agree. >.>;;

That would eliminate the whining of people such as Dukes who protest their warning. It'd give people a chance.

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Iunno if that's a good idea. Opinions?