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 Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:06 am
Kukushka Talon-chan Since sex is reserved for marriage only, that also means you can't ever have sex. Or have sex with God? Like... masturbate with a crucifix? I mean, technically, she'd be "having sexual relations with her [spiritual] husband." They've even got a d***o just the right shape.
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:19 pm
gonk
What are you guys thinking?
*Won't admit that it made her laugh like crazy*
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:26 pm
God doesn't mind polygamy, evidently. xd After all, he's married to...quite a few nuns.
That thought kind of makes me want to laugh.
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:35 pm
....*goes to laugh her a** off*
*comes back 5 min latter*
ok...now then....
This is really sad...but at least they didn't base the whole thing around her abortions.
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:35 pm
Some of the talk in this thread is absolutely disgusting. I don't mind if you are not Christian or whatnot (I am not myself), but I would appreciate it if the religion is respected in here and the disgusting talk is kept out of this conversation.
This story is infuriating. I hope the fact that they are priests and nuns will not mean that their violations against their church will be overlooked. If they are going to punish the other girls who have abortions, then they should punish the nun as well.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:32 am
missy wyvern Some of the talk in this thread is absolutely disgusting. I don't mind if you are not Christian or whatnot (I am not myself), but I would appreciate it if the religion is respected in here and the disgusting talk is kept out of this conversation. Hear that? That's the sound of you being too sensitive.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:57 am
This reminds me of some interesting pro-life slogan stuff I saw that seriously belonged in the trash:
"Equal rights for unborn women!"
To that I comment, so it is okay to abort unborn men? Good. We shall now refer to all abortion cases as "The supression of future male supressors who would seek to take away the rights of our unborn sex."
And the whopper:
"Pray the rosary, end abortion!"
WTF!? PRAY THE ROSARY!? Hail Mary, full of Grace, END ABORTION!!!111
Why not, pray the rosary, end starvation? End poverty? End the immoral judgements against unexpected pregnancies?
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:57 am
PhaedraMcSpiffy LadyInWhite *snort-laughs* The Church gonna excommunicate those two like they did the 11year old raped girl? They excommunicated the SURGEONS, not the girl. Because this girl obviously needed to keep a child that came from her abusive stepfather. The surgeons just murdered it for money. Not "saving the girl's life" or whatever crazy excuse they make up to kill babies. rolleyes Makes me sick... I really hope the church can't recover at this point. As mean and bitter as it sounds. This reminds me of a topic on one of my Myspace groups about Seventeen magazine. The September 2006 issue has an article that I think was titled "My mom made me have an abortion." While NOBODY should be forced into a decision about their reproductive health, this girl really made me sick. She was a good little pro-life christian girl before, but then she had unprotected sex with some boy and got pregnant. She wanted to have the baby, but her mother took her to get an abortion instead to save the family from shame. And, you know, because a young teenager, especially one this immature and irresponsible with herself, should not be raising a child. Nobody told this girl about the actual procedure, so it scared the crap out of her. Then, after the abortion, the mom and daughter both feel bad about "killing what she believes was going to be a beautiful baby girl" and are pro-life again. How could YOU make a mistake, get pregnant, and have an abortion, and then deny all other women that same right? Only YOU get to get out of pain, shame, and not being able to care for a child? I admit, I did pity her because she was in a screwed up family and obviously had no sex education or sense of responsibility, but I can't ******** beleive that anyone could be so hypocritical. Of course they're just trying to spare other women the unbearable pain they felt in their good, Christian bodies and minds after the abortion. That excuse is used pretty often. I'm going to use it when I launch my campaign against children breaking their legs. The solution? Wrap your kids up in plastic foam and make them stay in the house until they get married. Marriage solves all problems. And abstinence. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:35 am
Nethilia missy wyvern Some of the talk in this thread is absolutely disgusting. I don't mind if you are not Christian or whatnot (I am not myself), but I would appreciate it if the religion is respected in here and the disgusting talk is kept out of this conversation. Hear that? That's the sound of you being too sensitive. I disagree. How would you like it if people called you a "mud" or "jungle trash" or referred to black culture as "uncivilized" or referred to white people who like black people as having "jungle fever." What if a homosexual was called a f** or a dyke and told their culture is petty, superficial, and that any homosexual who gets AIDs deserved it for being so gosh darn promiscuous? I don't mind the jokes, but I don't think someone who is insulted because their religion is being mocked, when they hold it very dear and it is as much a part of who they are as race is a part of who you are and sexual orientation is a part of all of us, is being over-sensitive. Bigotry is bigotry no matter who it comes from or what it is held against.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:51 pm
missy wyvern Some of the talk in this thread is absolutely disgusting. I don't mind if you are not Christian or whatnot (I am not myself), but I would appreciate it if the religion is respected in here and the disgusting talk is kept out of this conversation. So you would like the Christianity talk kept out of a thread about nuns and priests? Please point out which parts you found 'disgusting'. The sex parts? I'm sorry, but I have absolutly no respect for the Christian religion. It's one of the main reasons why people are 'pro-life', and wish us to be no more than incubators. No one in this thread, said anything about the Christian religion as a whole. Actually, we're talking about the extreme Catholic views and the hypocricy (ie. Nun having sex and getting two abortions). If you find the generally mind talk in this thread 'absolutely disgusting', I suggest not looking at the more colourful threads on Christinanity based beliefs in this guild.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:47 pm
I think she might actually have been talking about the nuns fighting over who's really "married to God", implications that Christianity permits polygamy, masturbating with a crucifix type of stuff when she said this thread is disgusting. And I'm in agreement, even as an ex-Catholic with as much reason to find disgust with the RCC as anyone else. You can very easily criticise Christianity or the RCC without being disgusting or unnecessarily inflammatory.
One of my problems with the pro-choice camp is the general intolerence of organized religion - I was a member of the group Catholics For A Free Choice when I was younger and still a practicing member of the church, and we got treated like utter s**t by people on BOTH sides - but I think I caught more s**t from choicers at marches than from lifers. Yeah, some of them do lame s**t like what this thread is about, and those people suck, and they're one of the biggest reasons why I left. But that doesn't make sinking to their level okay and I've never seen the reasoning why it does.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:40 pm
Sorry for being rude.
I'm just getting more and more pissed off at religion these days. But that's no excuse to be rude.
I really didn't mean to offend. It's not so much religion that I hate*, but all the stupid things that are done in the name of it.
*(Make no mistake about it, though, I'm not a big fan of beleiving in things without any reasoning or evidence other than "I'll be punished if I don't.")
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:13 pm
I have a general intolerance for anyone who uses their system of beliefs to justify their intolerance and impose their beliefs on others; organized religion or personal. They can all gtfo their high horse in my opinion.
To be honest, I have been separated from organized religion for years now. It is much easier to "share" Christianity than to "Impose it by way of law." in my opinion, especially in America, which is supposed to be a "melting pot" and a refuge from religious persecution.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:22 pm
I'm sorry to hear that you some of you have no respect for Christianity. It's probably because of all the extremist assholes out there that twist the religion around to support them and their stupid beliefs and go around trying to force it on other people and bring it into politics etc. (How I despise those people, especially because there are so many of them too >< ) All it does is spread religious intolerance. Have you ever read any of the New Testament, any of Jesus's teachings? You don't have to follow the faith nor believe in it, however it is good to know what Jesus's teachings are so that staements that idiot's like conservative Christians make can be easily countered simply by pointing out some of the things Jesus taught. I found a fun little thing by Jesus the other day actually which proves that Christians need no longer follow the old testament laws. Matthew 15:1-9 1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2"Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother'[a] and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father[c]' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men. Here's an interesting thing that may mean a little something regarding abortion and the Bible, it's old testament law so it doesn't really matter that much but: Exodus 21:22-25 If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. The statement clearly says that if the fetal life is taken then the men only have to pay a fine, however if the woman's life is taken then they are to be put to death. This proves that an already born person back in old testament days was worth more than that of the unborn. -------------------------- Sorry if I am boring you with all of this. I just really hate it when people bash my religion just because a bunch of extremist Christians that run around barking "Homosexuality is bad! Abortion is murder! You're all going to Hell!" and said offended people don't even look into the religion to find the truths and instead judge it based on the morons that are running around spouting bullshit. (This is of course assuming that you haven't read any of the Bible.) And just as a side note I don't really care for Catholiscism, or really any other branch of Christianity at all. I suppose I am part of my own branch of Christianity where I teach myself about the Bible and interpret it for myself.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:43 pm
It's not that I don't have respect for Christianity. I just have no respect for the ones who seem to think it's a good excuse to impose every single literal translation that they make onto others and attempt to pass it as laws on a community that was founded on freedom from religious persecution, be it Satanists, Wiccans, Christians, or any other religion that tries to form intolerance and teaches YOUNG impressionable "PRECIOUS SACRED ALREADY ALIVE" children the same narrow minded views. I enjoyed the New Testament and I really felt best when it was interpreted by the Liberal Methodist church near my home. They seemed to have this idea that expanding your mind to the differences people have is an important part of Christianity. A big stress point they made was that it is not our place to judge since we are biased sinners as well and that the only person with that right is the Lord himself. This sort of reinstates my general feelings on the hate that breeds from extreme teachings of the bible: I like this part 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.
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