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aikido_samurai

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:17 pm


I am assuming, don't quote me on this, that Kinokawa is a form that follows very strictly to O-Sensei Ueshiba's teachings, not like anyone studying aikido doesn't anyways. Therefore independent would be a more "liberal" form of Aikido. I will do some research and get back to you on this, someone in my dojo should know.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:38 pm


aikido_samurai
I am assuming, don't quote me on this, that Kinokawa is a form that follows very strictly to O-Sensei Ueshiba's teachings, not like anyone studying aikido doesn't anyways. Therefore independent would be a more "liberal" form of Aikido. I will do some research and get back to you on this, someone in my dojo should know.


I just noticed your quote, aiki. Boondock Saints. I love that movie...
And when I vest my flashing sword And my hand takes hold in judgement I will take vengeance upon mine enemies And I will repay those who hase me O Lord, raise me to Thy right hand And count me amoung Thy saints ."

Mythic
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aikido_samurai

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:34 pm


It is an awesome movie, isn't it? I can't wait until the sequel comes out. It's going to be called "All Saint's Day", hehehe. Anyone here a Catholic by the way? I hardly ever go to mass anymore but it would be nice to talk to others and commisserate about going to catholic school and having the folks bring you to mass every sunday bright and early. The only cool thing about going to church was that you could drink alcohol, hehehe.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:30 pm


Mythic

that's an awesome answer. biggrin I think you're going to fit right in here, kik. 3nodding

Thank you! heart
Marty Nozz
YES! Thanks guys! I was going nuts trying to figure it out!
Thanks Myth and Kikilon!

Glad to be of assistance. whee

Kikilon


aikido_samurai

PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:33 am


I asked a higher ranking student in my dojo, and this is what he emailed me:

never heard of kinokawa. mebbe ask Guy sensei or google it and read
away.

As for independant... Call me old fashioned but I tend to be wary of
independant... Its quite possible they are not part of any national
organization for a good reason- a.k.a. they are not really qualified to
teach. Or they are branching out on thier own, which kinda violates
the
Purity of the art. (I prefer to learn many "pure" forms and let the
forms
coalesce within me in their own way rather than learn Joe P. Kickner's
or
whoever's interpretations). but who knows... mebbe Mr. independant
could be
the next great grand master. which leads me to the next point.

The other thing i suggest is, nationally affiliated or not... go to the
dojo
you are considering, train once or twice and sleep on it. Your heart
will
tell you what's best.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am going to ask my Sensei about it and I'll get back to you ASAP.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:55 pm


aikido_samurai
I asked a higher ranking student in my dojo, and this is what he emailed me:

never heard of kinokawa. mebbe ask Guy sensei or google it and read
away.

As for independant... Call me old fashioned but I tend to be wary of
independant... Its quite possible they are not part of any national
organization for a good reason- a.k.a. they are not really qualified to
teach. Or they are branching out on thier own, which kinda violates
the
Purity of the art. (I prefer to learn many "pure" forms and let the
forms
coalesce within me in their own way rather than learn Joe P. Kickner's
or
whoever's interpretations). but who knows... mebbe Mr. independant
could be
the next great grand master. which leads me to the next point.

The other thing i suggest is, nationally affiliated or not... go to the
dojo
you are considering, train once or twice and sleep on it. Your heart
will
tell you what's best.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am going to ask my Sensei about it and I'll get back to you ASAP.

I found out what Kinokawa is, it's to train the person to be calm and relax themselves in and out of fights plus it trains a person to act rather then react.

Ryu01


Ryu01

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:48 am


I need to know something. I would like to know the following Aikido styles i'm about to list.

Aikikai, Kokikai, and Tenshin - Ryu

I would like to have a briefing of what these styles have to offer for these are the type of styles that are in my area.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:21 pm


Aikikai is the type that I am taking. From what I gather in my training, it's very defensive. Instead of using your own precious energy, most of the inertia from the enemy's attacks is used for your techniques. By doing this you become like water, flexible and able to overcome anything. The other two forms I don't know much about, but I will try and find out. I heard back from my Sensei about your question with Kinokawa, if you want I will tell you what he knows about it.

aikido_samurai


Marty Nozz

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:00 pm


The aikido style I trained in was all defense. The only strikes taught were for the uke. I know some styles are more agressive, but that moves away from O-sensei's teachings.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:50 pm


Yeah, all the strikes done in aikido are used by uke the most. Of course, we're taught shomen and yokoman strikes with bokken and the like, but for the most part 85% of the strikes are being done by uke. Actually, I have never performed a kick in any of my techniques, the only people in aikido that actually use kicking in their techniques are like san-dan, pretty high up there. I'm only hoping that I one day make it up to ichi-dan.

aikido_samurai


Mythic
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:05 pm


ok, you guys know a bit about aikido..
are these actual throws? if so, can you describe them to me?

Kansetsu-waza
atemi-waza
nage-waza

those real throws? I've heard their names, but that's about it..
and what's an Uke? is that like a straight punch?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:40 am


Mythic
ok, you guys know a bit about aikido..
are these actual throws? if so, can you describe them to me?

Kansetsu-waza
atemi-waza
nage-waza

those real throws? I've heard their names, but that's about it..
and what's an Uke? is that like a straight punch?


I couldn't keep the names straight if my life depended on it. Not enough training. sweatdrop

An uke is one who attackes for the purpose of another practicing moves, like throws, blocks and counters. 3nodding

Marty Nozz


aikido_samurai

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:39 pm


Learning the names of all the moves is very difficult if you don't know Japanese, otherwise you would be able to name them off the top of your head. I'm trying to learn japanese on my spare time just so I can understand the names of all these moves, its madness I tell you! Uke is the person who attacks, Nage is the person who practices their technique by defending.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:10 pm


aikido_samurai
Learning the names of all the moves is very difficult if you don't know Japanese, otherwise you would be able to name them off the top of your head. I'm trying to learn japanese on my spare time just so I can understand the names of all these moves, its madness I tell you! Uke is the person who attacks, Nage is the person who practices their technique by defending.
I'm some what doing the same thing with learning Japanese but I'm learning it by watching anime. This way i could learn curtain phrases and I'm also learning how they're society works.
The words i know are, Die, What, One, two, three, and four. there is more but i don't feel like typing it all down.

Ryu01


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:06 pm


Ok..I've got a question. I'm noticiing that I'm starting to become real tense in my shoulders and it's making fighting kinda difficult. I've had the same prblem before, but it just went away after a couple days. I've now had it foor a couple weeks. Is there a certain stretch or somthing to relax the shoulders?
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