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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:31 pm


Babbalui
So, we agree. It is not the act itself that makes it a sin, but the lustful intentions behind it that makes it a sin. A really bad one too. 3nodding


Regardless of the sinfulness of lust, masturbation itself is not a sin. Indeed, masturbation need not involve any lust, and it is completely unfounded to say most masturbation is sinful, as there is nothing to show most masturbation comes from a lust of another person.

Even if you decide it is a sin, it is no worse than any other sin, and should not be treated any differently than any other sin.

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again, the oft repeated oppinion that it in itself is not, but the lust is. I know form experience that it makes women feel degraded if they find out a guy's been doing it, and I would imagine it'd be the same for guys.


Actually, no. There is definitely nothing which shows women generally feel degraded by a male's masturbation, nor the reverse. Indeed, there is only support that it can be a turn on for some people.

Remember, baseless statements are harmful, both in your life, and in your relationship to god.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:25 am


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This lust stuff is so tempting, thank you for the posts.

I'll try to go away from it as soon as now and turn to God once more blaugh

I hope God forgives me alwayss =3

`Li


Jelai

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:58 pm


Babbalui
Masturbation is definatly not a sin, but as it has already been stated, it is a sin harvestor. Most things that go along with masturbation are sins.

I honestly have not spoken a word to a single soul about this, but I know that I will not be judged from what I have seen...
I, as you may have figured out by now, have committed adultery with myself so-to-speak. I guess that it was from an unsure past.
This is something that is just as disturbing to me as it is to many others.
I used to be unsure of what I wanted to do... My mind had been poisoned by worldly things and at one point, I as willing to lose my virginity to any girl that was willing and that I was dating at the time (I'm not going to be man whore, sheesh! rolleyes xd )

I am definatly not proud of these things, but just before I was committed to doing that, something had prevented me and I believe it was God that was telling me that I was taking the wrong path.

I didn't know it then, but I definatly know it now. The world had taken a hold of me and to this day, is not going to let me go...
I committed myself to stopping this madness right away when I let God take the wheel for once.

It was only 2 days ago on Sunday that I was truly broken. He had mended me that morning and shaped me the way that he wanted.
I was never a true Christian, even though I acted as if I was one around people, I never truly was when I was alone.

Once I can, I am going to burn any and all pornographic videos that I still have in my possession and have my parents block anything on this computer that isn't right.

I just need to truly break away though... I know that someday, when I am down and alone, I will ignore God's whispers and go back to my worldly needs... When something like this happens, it is just as hard to quit as it is to quit smoking or drinking. I suffer from this almost every day now. I catch myself wandering in my thoughts and on occassion catch myself thinking about things that I shouldn't and have to shake my head vigorously (Literally) to get those thoughts out of my head. This has truly poisoned my mind and I am going to have to do anything that I can to recover...

I cannot truly say that I am finished, but I can truly say that I despiratly want and need to finish... I will come here every time that I need a reason to avoid this...

Just reading these posts makes me feel as if I can go out and be a better person.
I am truly glad that I joined this guild. cry heart


I'm probably a bit too late to post this, but xxxchurch.com may help you a lot.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:15 pm


I agree, that the lust behind such actions are the sin. It's interesting that scripture doesn't speak about this directly, considering that it's something that just about each and every person struggles with.

dreamingscribe


AshMonky

PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:16 pm


Babbalui
Masturbation is definatly not a sin, but as it has already been stated, it is a sin harvestor. Most things that go along with masturbation are sins.

I honestly have not spoken a word to a single soul about this, but I know that I will not be judged from what I have seen...
I, as you may have figured out by now, have committed adultery with myself so-to-speak. I guess that it was from an unsure past.
This is something that is just as disturbing to me as it is to many others.
I used to be unsure of what I wanted to do... My mind had been poisoned by worldly things and at one point, I as willing to lose my virginity to any girl that was willing and that I was dating at the time (I'm not going to be man whore, sheesh! rolleyes xd )

I am definatly not proud of these things, but just before I was committed to doing that, something had prevented me and I believe it was God that was telling me that I was taking the wrong path.

I didn't know it then, but I definatly know it now. The world had taken a hold of me and to this day, is not going to let me go...
I committed myself to stopping this madness right away when I let God take the wheel for once.

It was only 2 days ago on Sunday that I was truly broken. He had mended me that morning and shaped me the way that he wanted.
I was never a true Christian, even though I acted as if I was one around people, I never truly was when I was alone.

Once I can, I am going to burn any and all pornographic videos that I still have in my possession and have my parents block anything on this computer that isn't right.

I just need to truly break away though... I know that someday, when I am down and alone, I will ignore God's whispers and go back to my worldly needs... When something like this happens, it is just as hard to quit as it is to quit smoking or drinking. I suffer from this almost every day now. I catch myself wandering in my thoughts and on occassion catch myself thinking about things that I shouldn't and have to shake my head vigorously (Literally) to get those thoughts out of my head. This has truly poisoned my mind and I am going to have to do anything that I can to recover...

I cannot truly say that I am finished, but I can truly say that I despiratly want and need to finish... I will come here every time that I need a reason to avoid this...

Just reading these posts makes me feel as if I can go out and be a better person.
I am truly glad that I joined this guild. cry heart
nice testimony if thats what we should call it
PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:01 pm


some people bring up onan. but i think that's more so that he didn't want to impregnate his brother's wife, and so he didn't, and that's why God disapproved.

but eh, what do i know.

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The G-Bomb

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:52 am


...I would concur with most of the replies listed here. However, would it be acceptable within marriage? Let me provide 2 scenarios here:

1.) One person would find it a very large turn-on to watch their spouse masturbate. Would this be wrong?

2.) One person is out of town for a week. The person proceeds to masturbate, thinking of their spouse as they do. Is this wrong?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:06 am


There is a website that I posted a link to in the "The Big 'M'" thread that I posted in the Debate forum. Even though the website is for males, the morals apply to both genders. 3nodding

Hope it helps. blaugh heart

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:14 pm


Medanite
There is a website that I posted a link to in the "The Big 'M'" thread that I posted in the Debate forum. Even though the website is for males, the morals apply to both genders. 3nodding

Hope it helps. blaugh heart


whats the link? i cant find it

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:13 pm


Here is the Website. >x<

Medanite


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:50 pm


The G-Bomb
1.) One person would find it a very large turn-on to watch their spouse masturbate. Would this be wrong?

No. The only bounds the Bible puts on sex is that it has to be within the context of marriage. Beyond that it is a 'whatever-floats-your-boat' type of thing.

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2.) One person is out of town for a week. The person proceeds to masturbate, thinking of their spouse as they do. Is this wrong?

Again, no, as it is still within the context of marriage. Though, I might add, one should do this (if one must) with a bit more caution, to make sure that it stays within marriage, but, beyond that, go for it.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:28 pm


Are you for real? i'm not married and i masterbate. there is nothing wrong with pleasuring your self. i mean you could be out having sex every time you got the urge! i do however have a serious boyfriend (and his kid)


Fun Fact:

MEN WHO MASTERBATE ONCE A DAY ARE LESS LIKELY TO DEVELOP PROSTATE CANCER!

berkinstopit


ioioouiouiouio

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:30 pm


berkinstopit
Are you for real? i'm not married and i masterbate. there is nothing wrong with pleasuring your self. i mean you could be out having sex every time you got the urge! i do however have a serious boyfriend (and his kid)


Fun Fact:

MEN WHO MASTERBATE ONCE A DAY ARE LESS LIKELY TO DEVELOP PROSTATE CANCER!

Lust is a sin, regardless of how 'healthy' the activity might seem.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:35 pm


Medanite
There is a website that I posted a link to in the "The Big 'M'" thread that I posted in the Debate forum. Even though the website is for males, the morals apply to both genders. 3nodding

Hope it helps. blaugh heart

wow good site

down_wit_6


Moliverio

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:28 pm


It is almost impossible to masturbate without sin. Maybe you do not think that you have lust full thoughts but when comes down to it masturbation feels good and that good feeling that we end up yearning for can be found in other places. Masturbation, as far as I can see, must be a sin because you are just throwing yourself into temptation. God's word says not to awaken Love before it pleases, which quite generally means until marriage. Our hormone's were ment to lead us only in love, but because of our nature we let it drive us to lust. Once you maturbate, thinking that God is fine with it, you will begin to realize that you are growing farther and farther away from God. You then will know it is a sin but you will not want to stop, nor will it be at all easy to resist that temptation. Don't ever try it, and if you already have, go to God. God will comfort you as you have that little p***k of temptation in the back of your mind. And, remember, God will never allow us to be tempted beyond what we can handle. No matter what, we will always be able to stop or just refrain from doing it, do not let Satan have a victory over you for you could very well turn out to be one of God's greatest warriors.
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