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Ditto, except that there is a reason for that hurting... I think its a knowledge tumor.

Seriously though.

The thing with Dewey and Adrock. If you think about it there must have been a power sturggle between the two over control of Eureka.

Eureka would not have been needed during the preliminary contruction of TypeZero. During this time Dewey and Decard would have had full control of her. Once Eureka's use as a pilot could be argued to the council (those three old prunes in the space ship. They would have been all powerfull durning this time period) then Adrock could take her from the Eureka Project.

While it was her connnection to the Nirvash that gave the reason for removing her from the Novaks, I beleive that physical abuse would have been Adrocks primary reason for taking her. Three things lead me to this.

1. Eureka's emotional detachment in the picture of her from that time.

2. The physical condition of the test subjects seen at the Novak Foundation.

3. The strong contrast in Eureka's emotions when dealing with the engineers from Archetype Laboratories.

1- the withdrawn stance and blank stare suggest to me a girl that has developed no bonds to others. To say it is because she was just discovered would be incorrect. We can tell from how far along the developement of the archetype is at that point that some time has past since eureka was taken to Trezor.

2- the test subjects from Novak Foundation are the example of how Anemone was treated. This impression is not lost on Dominic. Decard refers to "That one" or "that" (meaning Anemone). This suggests a complete lack of Anemone's acknowledgement. Decards use of the term "that" is a simple inferance that Anemone is not a person. (Dewey does the same thing on more than one occurance) This objective and unemotional standpoint would surely have started with Eureka.










As a newly discovered Coralian lifeform is seems reasonable that the military and the scientists studying her would take this standpoint. (I'm not saying it's right, only that it's very likely)
Adrock being witness to this would want to save her from such abuse. (He is a hero after all. It said so on his gravestone.)

3- Eureka's emotions towards the engineers involved in Archetype Laboratories. She considered them friends and has fond memories of being with them. She also seems familiar with Professor Bears Lab. She warned Renton to becareful in there. I beleive the engineers on the project were the first humans to treat her as human.

Info from Episode 38:

In episode 38 we see a flashback to the moments leading up to the first Summer of Love. Adrock Thurston and Eureka used the Nirvash and the first "Seventh Swell" was activated.

This is a picture and transcript of the flashback told from the point of view of Eureka.



Eureka: That was before I was assigned to the SOF. Adrock was the one who was in charge of the research regarding the Nirvash and myself. He was always there for me.
(Shows Nirvash at a research base, then Eureka in the cockpit. She is not wearing her necklace)

He taught me, who knew nothing at the time, how to talk, walk around, pilot the Nirvash, and all sorts of other things. And he'd always say, "I'll protect you." But one time Adrock said,"I'm a failure."

Renton: the summer of Love.

(The following is shown in the flashback. Adrock & Eureka in Nirvash, A Seventh Swell, A military ship nearby watches on. Dewey Novak is on board the ship. Dewey smiles)

Eureka: At the time I didn't know what he meant by that. But even now I clearly remember those words! He said,"I don't have the right to sit beside you. I have children I must protect, so I won't let this world be destroyed. I'm sorry."

I'm taking a few guesses...

Now, during the operation of the strange alien bodies and how to use them, they used just normal humans to try and operate the machines. Eureka was discovered some time here after. They ran tests on her, and of course, everything just clicked. Now, with many years (( Could be a smaller time... )) of study, an interesting device was created.
They decided to call this device the Compac drive. It amplified the human’s thoughts, making the connection between the LFO and human actually possible. At the beginning of the show Eureka didn't have one of these since her thoughts were literally connected to the Nirvash.

( Changing subjects. )

Now like some of things that Tolly said. I believe that Adrock, Dewey, and the others all worked together on Eureka, but Adrock was the one who actually watched over her and trained her. At this time Novak wasn't apart of the foundation. It could be possible that the scientist in those clips also worked with Eureka. But later on in their use they were put under the new control of Decard. His primary objective was incorporating the Coralian gene into the human gene. I believe that Anemone was the first test. Or maybe there were others...?

What I want to know is why the Amita Drive was developed. Were they doing it for power, or was this a project in attempting to make a connection with the Coralians? Adrock was in full disagreement with killing the Coralians, hence the fact that he separated from the army and took Eureka with him. I believe that after Eureka left the military with Adrock, Decard was hired for his special job. One reason I believe this is that he’s not in any of the flash back clips. Only the scientists that work for him.

That pretty much emphasizing on things already known. But I added the few ideas on the Amita drive and Compac.

Hmmm interesting... I looked at that website and it cleared up a lot of my questions. I got to watch the series again to re-gather all the information, I’m already forgetting some important facts. You do prove some good points, and I do remember the clip with Dewey smiling in satisfaction at the Seven Swell phenomenon. Also, I think your right about Eureka being discovered next to the archetype. I'm not positive, but I keep seeing this image in my mind of subtitles saying that "We found Eureka not to far away from the TypeZero." Or something along those lines.

Although I'm a little disappointed with the compac drive. It makes sense, but I believed for a while that the compac drive was made from the studies of the Eureka. After I saw what you said, that proves my theory wrong.

One thing I read about in the link though slightly caught me by surprise. I was reading over the limit of life and its basics. It makes a little more sense then my theory. I thought I read in the series that the limit of life was actually just a massive gather of thoughts that couldn’t be handled in one space. It became massive enough that it actually ripped a whole open into the 7th dimension. The 7th dimension is basically what the subconscious thoughts work on… or go to?... gahh... something like that. I'll have to look the episode over again. Once I do I'm redoing that strange theory. Even though I know its already wrong…

I'll be back on this...

Thanks, that clears up some strange questions I’ve had for a while.

Also, under the situation of the scene where Adrock pulled out the drive and sacraficed himself. If you look around, it didn't actually look like he was fighting any battle. Which would best support my theory. Before I didn't and I should have taken this into consideration. Truth be know, I actually just forgot... Any way, it did seem like he was just at a test site.

Woah... really? I havn't read the manga yet. Though I really would like to. I cant find any places to view it on the internet. So, I'm just waiting to go to a Deseret Book and see if they have one in.