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 Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:16 pm
So when are you going to get involved in the anti-war movement and help keep actual living men/women a live? Not on the to-do list?
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:18 pm
Seority Cometh The Inquisitor I put no on the poll, but not because I don't support the cause, but that I don't support cheap knock-offs of something else. If Christians want to make a point, they should start by being original. Slapping a 'Jesus' label on something doesn't make it Christian. 
Agreed. I can picture it now, "Hey Mindy, why arn't you talking?" What am I supposed to do? I can't tell them that I'm supporting pro-life because then the point would be ruined.
I wouldn't try to write it down because they would just laugh at me and smack me in the head, "Mindy, you're weird!" Then I'd smack them back and it just wouldn't end well. @_@
I'll support it by not doing abortion myself ^^.
Try the new kitty bread! Now made with real kittens! Being silent isn't going to stop people from dying. People die all the time whether abortion or wars or what have you. I would go the Jimmy Carter route. Instead of trying to stop abortion through the law (such as ending Roe v Wade which is actually protection for us women) you can try to do so through other means such as with the economy. Only three out of ten reason's can not be changed by society's help and that's rape, incest and/or a medical reason. Everything else listed is things that people can change and help such as economic issues or mental thinking etc.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:20 pm
fantrl Saria Doragon That is amazing, and I'd totaly participate---
but if I stop talking for an entire day,
I get sent to therapy,
and my friends worry
and people think I'm angry at them...
And yeah.
Pro-life heart When you have tape over your mouth saying "life," I doubt people would take your silence personally (unless they're a pro-choice militant). Oh thanks for insulting me and calling me a militant since I'm pro-choice. How is that loving your neighbor? rolleyes So much for respect for other people's views and opinions. Being quiet for so long is not going to be anything or bring any change. It's just a waste of time and you're not doing anything. It's "oh look at me!!!" type of nonsense. See the Pharasiee's.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:21 pm
Seority fantrl Saria Doragon That is amazing, and I'd totaly participate---
but if I stop talking for an entire day,
I get sent to therapy,
and my friends worry
and people think I'm angry at them...
And yeah.
Pro-life heart When you have tape over your mouth saying "life," I doubt people would take your silence personally (unless they're a pro-choice militant).
Then the teachers would tell me to remove it. I don't think they'll let a kid walk around with tape on their mouth all day.
And I know that my friends would really pick on me if I had tape on my mouth XD!
Kitty teh bread. And the whole point? There isn't any. Do you see us anti-war people going around with tape on our mouth? No! We're out there making noise and trying to change things. We're not doing silly things that really mean nothing in reality.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:23 pm
Forever-Fornever Thank you so much for posting this! I LUFFELS YOU!!!! I've always been against abortion and this seems like a great thing to do. I'm gunna go put sticky notes all around my room for this now!!! ^^ All you're doing is wasting paper and doing nothing. Why don't you do activism? Why don't you try doing other things such as looking at the reason's why women have abortions and work on changing that? Do you know why?
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:24 pm
SinfulGuillotine To be perfectly honest, I find such "days of silence" to be an especially pointless way of protesting something. Yes, actions can speak louder than words, but is it not words that inspire actions? Yes, the silence is very symbolic, but beyond that, it really has no purpose. If you feel very strongly about something, why not stand up on a desk in the middle of class and give an impassioned speech on the matter? Why not make t-shirts and use your words to inform people of your stance and reasons for taking the stance you do on a paricular issue? While it's a nice idea, I just think there are far better ways to make a statement, all of which involve the very opposite of staying silent. If you do that it's called disruption and it's rude and irresponsible. Do you see anti-war students standing on desks and shouting and giving speeches? None that I know of or have heard of. Anti-war people are out there and speaking and everything. Activism works. Annoying people doesn't.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:31 pm
LittlePinky82 SinfulGuillotine To be perfectly honest, I find such "days of silence" to be an especially pointless way of protesting something. Yes, actions can speak louder than words, but is it not words that inspire actions? Yes, the silence is very symbolic, but beyond that, it really has no purpose. If you feel very strongly about something, why not stand up on a desk in the middle of class and give an impassioned speech on the matter? Why not make t-shirts and use your words to inform people of your stance and reasons for taking the stance you do on a paricular issue? While it's a nice idea, I just think there are far better ways to make a statement, all of which involve the very opposite of staying silent. If you do that it's called disruption and it's rude and irresponsible. Do you see anti-war students standing on desks and shouting and giving speeches? None that I know of or have heard of. Anti-war people are out there and speaking and everything. Activism works. Annoying people doesn't. The idea of standing up on a desk in the middle of a class was an exaggeration. I thought that was fairly obvious. The point was that speaking out will accomplish more than staying silent. Unless, of course, it's the sort of class in which it's appropriate to do such things. And I'm sure that somewhere, at some point in time, there existed an anti-war student who got up on his desk in the middle of an academic class and gave a speech. I'm really not sure why you pulled that up as a shining example. I don't see anti-war students doing much of anything around here, to be honest.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:36 pm
SinfulGuillotine LittlePinky82 SinfulGuillotine To be perfectly honest, I find such "days of silence" to be an especially pointless way of protesting something. Yes, actions can speak louder than words, but is it not words that inspire actions? Yes, the silence is very symbolic, but beyond that, it really has no purpose. If you feel very strongly about something, why not stand up on a desk in the middle of class and give an impassioned speech on the matter? Why not make t-shirts and use your words to inform people of your stance and reasons for taking the stance you do on a paricular issue? While it's a nice idea, I just think there are far better ways to make a statement, all of which involve the very opposite of staying silent. If you do that it's called disruption and it's rude and irresponsible. Do you see anti-war students standing on desks and shouting and giving speeches? None that I know of or have heard of. Anti-war people are out there and speaking and everything. Activism works. Annoying people doesn't. The idea of standing up on a desk in the middle of a class was an exaggeration. I thought that was fairly obvious. Unless, of course, it's the sort of class in which it's appropriate to do such things. And I'm sure that somewhere, at some point in time, there existed an anti-war student who got up on his desk in the middle of an academic class and gave a speech. I'm really not sure why you pulled that up as a shining example. I don't see anti-war students doing much of anything around here, to be honest. Anti-war people are doing activism now and getting prepared for the November midterms. That's what all me and my anti-war friends are doing. Note we're not all anti-war and we do understand SOMETIMES you do need war (such as WWII and the Revolution and things like that). Some places still have vigiles and things like that but it's election time and that's where all of our energy is going now. There is a time for activism and there is a time for protesting. It's all about your priorities. Oh and Cindy Sheehan is still in Crawford this summer with a bunch of people. It's just so hypocritical for me that people do things with abortion but yet are silent on illegal and immoral wars such as Iraq and Afghainstan and real live people are dying right this second both our soldiers and other innocents in those respective country's. Gee where are the "religious right" on that movement? Oops.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:43 pm
LittlePinky82 Anti-war people are doing activism now and getting prepared for the November midterms. That's what all me and my anti-war friends are doing. Congratulations? Do you want a cookie? I'm fighting discrmination against homosexuals, raising money for AIDS research, volunteering at an AIDS clinic, working three jobs, taking my step-son to school, and trying to finish my Master's. We all pick our battles, love. Quote: Note we're not all anti-war and we do understand SOMETIMES you do need war (such as WWII and the Revolution and things like that). Some places still have vigiles and things like that but it's election time and that's where all of our energy is going now. There is a time for activism and there is a time for protesting. It's all about your priorities. Did I ever say anything to the contrary? Quote: Oh and Cindy Sheehan is still in Crawford this summer with a bunch of people. It's just so hypocritical for me that people do things with abortion but yet are silent on illegal and immoral wars such as Iraq and Afghainstan and real live people are dying right this second both our soldiers and other innocents in those respective country's. Gee where are the "religious right" on that movement? Oops. I agree. I'm against the war. I'm also politically pro-choice. And even if I was adamantly pro-life, I don't see how a piece of red tape over your mouth and not speaking for a day is going to stop abortion.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:35 am
LittlePinky82 So when are you going to get involved in the anti-war movement and help keep actual living men/women a live? Not on the to-do list? I'm very anti-war (the one in Iraq at least, there are some just wars, such as WWII). I support all living men and women, born and unborn. Actually, one thing that I need to work on is that I come off as more anti-war than I do pro-life. I talk about the war all the time but rarely talk about abortion. Yet abortion is a much more crucial matter, because thousands die each day with abortion, while less than 100 die a day with the war and the death penalty (however, this does not justify either of those things.)
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:15 am
SinfulGuillotine LittlePinky82 Anti-war people are doing activism now and getting prepared for the November midterms. That's what all me and my anti-war friends are doing. Congratulations? Do you want a cookie? I'm fighting discrmination against homosexuals, raising money for AIDS research, volunteering at an AIDS clinic, working three jobs, taking my step-son to school, and trying to finish my Master's. We all pick our battles, love. Quote: Note we're not all anti-war and we do understand SOMETIMES you do need war (such as WWII and the Revolution and things like that). Some places still have vigiles and things like that but it's election time and that's where all of our energy is going now. There is a time for activism and there is a time for protesting. It's all about your priorities. Did I ever say anything to the contrary? Quote: Oh and Cindy Sheehan is still in Crawford this summer with a bunch of people. It's just so hypocritical for me that people do things with abortion but yet are silent on illegal and immoral wars such as Iraq and Afghainstan and real live people are dying right this second both our soldiers and other innocents in those respective country's. Gee where are the "religious right" on that movement? Oops. I agree. I'm against the war. I'm also politically pro-choice. And even if I was adamantly pro-life, I don't see how a piece of red tape over your mouth and not speaking for a day is going to stop abortion. Who said I was wanting a cookie or anything of the sort? rolleyes So since you listed all you're doing do you want a cookie or a certificate? And yes we all pick our battles. Now instead of standing in the street and protesting the war I'm going to do what I can and doing activism to change the course of this country and get justice for all the wrong that has happened in this country. I don't see how a piece of red tape is going to do anything either. I still suggest the Jimmy Carter route.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:18 am
fantrl LittlePinky82 So when are you going to get involved in the anti-war movement and help keep actual living men/women a live? Not on the to-do list? I'm very anti-war (the one in Iraq at least, there are some just wars, such as WWII). I support all living men and women, born and unborn. Actually, one thing that I need to work on is that I come off as more anti-war than I do pro-life. I talk about the war all the time but rarely talk about abortion. Yet abortion is a much more crucial matter, because thousands die each day with abortion, while less than 100 die a day with the war and the death penalty (however, this does not justify either of those things.) With abortion it's a personal choice that God has blessed us with. You should still respect that person's choice even if you disagree with it. You can do all sorts of things to change abortion such as vote for people who know how to get you jobs and a good economy and responsiblity with the budget and have programs that can help women with their babies. John Kerry gave a good response to the abortion question in the second presidential debate from 2004. He pretty much said you can talk and try to convience someone to not have an abortion and try to help them out but in the end if they still decide to go that route it's their choice and you should respect it. Leave the judging to God. It's not your place to judge people. I'm glad to hear there are people out there who personally are pro-life and are also anti-war. Too many times I see that hypocritical stance and it's just so frustrating how people can't get it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:20 am
Cometh The Inquisitor LittlePinky82 So when are you going to get involved in the anti-war movement and help keep actual living men/women a live? Not on the to-do list? so we.... like... can't believe two things at once? Damn, why aren't you out protesting? Don't you care about the peopel who are dying? Get out there right now! You can't take even a momentof your life away from protesting or you don't really care!! stare No you're putting words in my mouth. A lot of people who claim they are pro-life turn around and support Iraq and/or Afghainstan and the slaughtering of innocent people including babies and children. So sometimes people only care about the fetuses and not the actual children.
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