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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:23 am
Seriously though, this anime will never happen, regardless of how many of us say it'd be cool.
On the other hand, if someone around here was crazy enough to draw us some improffesional manga, who knows...
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:17 am
Don't be so sure. domokun Me & two friends, once we stop being lazy, have already been developing a beginner-manga to a roleplay we frequent. If a manga gets big enough, the premise is often siezed-up for animes, no? XP
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:38 am
No. That has nothing to do with size - a manga becomes an anime IF: you can convince enough people that it will be a very profitable commercial venture, that it's very easy to make merchandise for, that it will appeal to a wide variety of people, and that they should give you eight jillion dollars for you to pay back with interest after you give all that money to the animation studios and the anime writers who will then proceed to rewrite the whole thing their way altering things without regard to the original manga-ka's vision. Usually it involves the manga-ka selling their rights to the stuff at some point, usually to get investors.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:38 pm
Binatica No. That has nothing to do with size - a manga becomes an anime IF: you can convince enough people that it will be a very profitable commercial venture, that it's very easy to make merchandise for, that it will appeal to a wide variety of people, and that they should give you eight jillion dollars for you to pay back with interest after you give all that money to the animation studios and the anime writers who will then proceed to rewrite the whole thing their way altering things without regard to the original manga-ka's vision. Usually it involves the manga-ka selling their rights to the stuff at some point, usually to get investors. By size, I mean 'effect', how big it has became.. popularity. Lolcopter.
Besides, that's not necessarily true. While surely, every company that takes a manga & ports it into an anime is looking for profit, for potential profit, etc.. really, that doesn't apply to quite a number of anime. Take, Coyote Ragtime Show. I'll be damned if anyone heard of the manga prior to it being converted into the anime that's a good two episodes from being complete in Japan. There are no mass-products. Etc.
Furthermore, it depends on which anime you refer to, when you say, "who will then proceed to rewrite the whole thing their way altering things without regard to the original manga-ka's vision." Take, Hajime no Ippo. Save the obvious differences in certain characters' such as Giro-Michi's apperence and the fact it's.. colored, anime, has music, etc..
You'd be hard-pressed to find very many differences between the manga and the beginning-to-end of the anime. Although, the manga goes on much, much farther than the anime - what of the manga that is covered, is dead accurate on the anime standpoint. One of the few, and I do mean damned few differences I saw, was that Ippo [main character]'s classroom had a different number. And you're bordering the "that's just about it", far as how many changes were made.
Full Metal Alchemist, on the other hand.. the staff behind that did take it in a totally different direction from the manga at a very early point. And I'm glad. They could've either done that, or at the time, waited for the manga whilst putting out.. FMA.. Filler.
The very idea of it frightens the s**t out of me.
However, there are also small OVAs done for practically no profit/merchandicing by numerous anime studios, just for fan-service.
......Totally besides the point, while I don't see Tenkaichi Budoukai becoming a full-fledged anime or manga, I could definetely see it, if Clash comes back & keeps it active, having some artists take cracks at portrayals of characters/battle scenes. And hey, that may lead to bigger things; there's no real telling.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:49 pm
If one does decide to make an anime, I don't want any of my characters in it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:16 pm
@Psychofish: You're probably right. I've only brought up the idea as a creative thought. Doubtful that anyone would carry it out.
@Typhoon_Omi: Excellent post. Great examples of Hajime no Ippo and Coyote Ragtime Show. You never know what will happen. wink
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:02 pm
It would be in 3D, and would be featured on Laserdisks everywhere! The korean minions onions? workers workers would totally come packaged in the box, and they would come out to play the disk for you.
We would go through a lot of koreans very quickly.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:06 pm
Psychofish Seriously though, this anime will never happen, regardless of how many of us say it'd be cool. The simple reply is, of course, obviously this anime would never happen. It would be impossible. The characters would clash, no one would be able to follow with all the characters dying before they could become interesting, and all the episodes that didn't consist of us arguing would be spent listening to Ertai. However, it's fun to dream, because we as roleplayers, are losers dreamers.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:05 pm
sweatdrop You know, I would be happy to do a weekly or monthly webcomic that shows all the matches and stories of this tournament once it is over. But, this is an only an idea. The best thing to do right now is to probably make an announcer thread where people tell their opinions on each competitor in each fight to make the tournament seem more realistic.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:20 pm
The thing about that is that spectating is inherently unsafe. In a tournament where some supermage fills the stadium with lava because he's tired of his crafty opponent avoiding all his stuff (only to discover his opponent's still alive and he's got to do MORE). Watching the fights would be too dangerous and in many cases suicidal.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:50 pm
Binatica The thing about that is that spectating is inherently unsafe. In a tournament where some supermage fills the stadium with lava because he's tired of his crafty opponent avoiding all his stuff (only to discover his opponent's still alive and he's got to do MORE). Watching the fights would be too dangerous and in many cases suicidal. Are my ears burning? Haha, wow, I guess I am a crafty little devil. Even a ring full of lava can't keep a man with imagination down. EDIT: I should mention that I have to avoid stuff, because I wear no armor. Taking a direct hit won't just slow me down or parry my attacks. That stuff'll killz me. Thus I need to be crafty.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:35 am
If Bubba doesn't die soon Torment is going to fill the entire legal area with Lava save for the food court...and he's going to go grab himself a coke.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:47 am
Anonymooo Jans Viper =P *Points to a not-well-liked series of lackluster anime that has a Tenkaichi Budoukai in it. Also made by Korean child slaves.* *points to the people who've only seen the American version of a series that is actually very well-loved around the entire world--and then laughs* xd Former #1 comic-related property on Earth, until X-Men took back its crown for like four years, and then One Piece snatched the crown right back. xd The GTB anime would be a super-series produced by Studio Madhouse, directed by Matsumoto Norio, and have character designs by Kimura Takehiro. whee *Points at people who have no idea what they're talking about, and laughs.* Actually, the situation for DBZ is way different in Japan than it is here. Most Americans dislike DBZ because the younger and teenage fanbases are prejudiced against it. Japan has a massive fanbase, massive. (Fyi; I've seen both versions. And all the movies. It really is a lackluster anime) Go read some interviews with Toriyama himself, everyone brings up Dragon Ball. You'll see what I'm talking about. Not that it has fans, just that its rather dull. @Omi: Man, I'm going to have to find the anime for Hajime no Ippo now, I'm loving the manga. *Is just starting the "Hammer Nao" fight.* I think the differences in FMA can be summed up quite easily. The anime is very dark, action packed, and dramatic. The manga is more intellectual, more political, and deeper in terms of plot. xD And I love them both oh so much.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:19 am
Jans Viper *Points at people who have no idea what they're talking about, and laughs.* Saying Dragonball has a massive fanbase is an understatement. There's a reason people love it so much--the internationally-loved manga is probably one of the best examples of series-building you're ever going to find in terms of pacing, middling out, and coming to an end (and then getting zapped back to life for one final stab that did not-half-bad). Most Americans also dislike Dragonball because they like the pretty--they find classics (which are loved for more than nostalgic value) like Saint Seiya and Lupin III and the original Mobile Suit Gundam uninteresting because they're older or as you put it, "lackluster," when these were series that carried not on visuals but on character. Point of fact, I still enjoy Dragonball to this day--the Son Gokuu vs. Piccolo Majunior fight at the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai still stands as one of the most intense comic fights ever done. Hell, you take something like Captain Tsubasa, that'll never make it out here in the States although everybody else in the world knows about it and loves it--kinda like soccer itself. The US is, from what I've seen, a fickle and uneducated market that prides itself on "variety." Yeah, TokyoPop licensed over a hundred titles last year, but how many of them actually sell again? xp
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:20 am
The lovely thing is, I've had my character spectate in a good.. four matches. One of which, I had to pull something a tad "imaginative" to avoid being wounded or killed myself; the biggest rule of thumb with that? Never spectate without bookmarking the thread, or you may regret it like Hell. domokun
Jans, I agree about FMA - the manga also takes a difference on how the humunchuli are set up. And as for Hajime no Ippo, the anime only goes up to the second fight between Sendo & Ippo, sadly - but's still an awesome watch, and I absolutely love the music involved - so yeah, if you get get a chance, nab it.
And Anonymoo, while I agree entirely [Saint Seiya wasn't my cup'o'tea, but Lupin the III, and pretty much ever variant of Gundam thus far save one dubbed badly - have been and still ARE some of my favorite animes ever,] I.. can't agree with the Dragon Ball series to an extent.
The actual DRAGONBALL series itself, I loved. Really, it had that "adventurous" feeling to it, it had an RPG feel to it [no doubt because I was used to Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest prior to watching DB] - and.. it was just a good watch. =P
But? Dragon Ball Z, I felt, was a bit.. mmph. It had it's great points. Then, it had it's "LOL WANT 2 FIGHT? HAHA U NUB SWORD CAN'T HURT ME I FIGHT! FFFFFFIGHTIIIIIING!" moments, that bugged me badly. Not to mention, the "X-Block" became MASSIVELY over-used, and nobody seemed to've heard of lower-body attacks, since apparently, the X-Block blocked even a giant, and I do mean larger than an asteroid balls of energy that somehow don't extend anywhere save the point of impact..
Also, DBZ was more of a, "Hey. Know what? Tien? Chalcou? General Tao? Dende, Picollo, Kami, Yajirobe - ******** 'EM! ******** GOHAN, EVEN! Goku is HARDCORE!" anime, than anything else. I mean, I understand Goku has always been the "mainest of main characters" in the DB-X series, but? Later in the DBZ series, they.. just.. took it a tad too far. Like, making every other, potentially decent character go bye-bye just so Goku can come back.
Not to mention, the Z Sword let down my hopes so very much. crying
Then, you've GT, which.. brought back some of the olden characters [good], went for more of an adventurous ploy than a "LET'S FIGHT DA NEW SUPER POWERFUL ALIEN WITH FIGHTING!" plot [great].. but, it didn't come close to capturing the magic of Dragonball - to me, at anyrate.
Just a quick rant from me. XP
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