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 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:10 am
Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai Wikipedia A vaccine is an antigenic preparation used to produce active immunity to a disease, in order to prevent or ameliorate the effects of infection by any natural or "wild" strain of the organism. The term derives from Edward Jenner's use of cowpox ("vacca" means cow in Latin), which, when administered to humans, provided them protection against smallpox, which Pasteur and others perpetuated. The process of distributing and administrating vaccines is referred to as vaccination. by administering a mild strain of teh disease(the antigenic) into ones bloodstream, you build an immunity to that specific disease, which is an alteration to your personal chemistry. No different than rather the disease enter naturally. Ne? The Vaccination is Artificial. and there is no guarantee, actually a very little chance, of you building an immunity if it enters naturally. Ah, but that is not the point, see. And, that all depends on what the vaccine is for... How is it not the point? You are artificially altering your immune system, as opposed to allowing it to form immunities naturally, or, "By the will of God", as you think.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:19 am
Se Ga Takai Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai by administering a mild strain of teh disease(the antigenic) into ones bloodstream, you build an immunity to that specific disease, which is an alteration to your personal chemistry. No different than rather the disease enter naturally. Ne? The Vaccination is Artificial. and there is no guarantee, actually a very little chance, of you building an immunity if it enters naturally. Ah, but that is not the point, see. And, that all depends on what the vaccine is for... How is it not the point? You are artificially altering your immune system, as opposed to allowing it to form immunities naturally, or, "By the will of God", as you think. ""By the will of God"", care to expound? You might want to find a different example. With or without the vaccine, the exampled 'disease' has a possibility of being overcome. Once again the vaccine does not alter ones genome, either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:17 pm
I think it's just stupid. First of all, why does it matter? A child is a gift either way. And second of all, this will probably cause an increase in one gender and the decrease in the other, and one of us might actually be the last man or woman on earth. xd
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:39 pm
SaraRenee Ok I'ma throw in my two cents now. As for choosing the sex of your baby, I dunno. I think in a way you are trying to play God there but at the same time God created the person who came up with it. So honestly I see both ways but I wouldn't choose the sex of my baby because it just isn't natural. What does it matter if my kid is a boy or a girl? If I chose the sex it's like saying if you turned out another sex I wouldn't love you as much. Which is why I view it as wrong. The sex shouldn't matter, thats not the point of having a baby. But as far as glasses and other things. I say HA! As for vaccines if they weren't invented, I would have died when I was baby. If it wasn't for allergy shots I'd still be suffering from constant colds and stuff. I still do but I'm slowly getting better. I no longer have asthma, praise the Lord I got healed. But I still had some breathing problems with something else. Allergy shots fixed my breathing problems. I'm now having to get two vaccines soon because if I don't my body can get to viruses that can make me sick to where my body won't be able to fight. Then I'd have to go on to blood transfusion. So I believe none of that is wrong. God wouldn't have created the person to create it. I think part of my testing of Faith with God is the fact that I'm sick. ANd where the test comes in to play is "Can you trust me even when your doctors say there is no hope?" I'm sick and as of now there's no treatment and no way for me to have a chance to outgrow it like they thought I did. And the blood transfusion will most likely give me AIDS and they won't try it until my body gets so sick it can't fight. And if it comes to that it comes to that, but I know my God won't let me suffer more than I can handle, and I know he'll protect me and my body from completely shutting down. And I know since I was daignosed I've struggled with my faith. I was like "...I'm sick...They can't do anything...God why? How could you? Don't you love? Why not fix me?" And the problem was my faith in him. But now I praise him even when I feel at my worse and my tiredness is overwhelming. But the fact of the matter is I'm doing what I need to do at the doctors and I trust my God that in his time I'll be healed but I have to trust in him and do what I need to do. The doctor was placed there for a reason. And for glasses, they help me see. Without them I would be blind. God doesn't have to heal every inch of my body before I have proof and an awesome testimony of God. He healed me of my asthma and if thats the only thing he heals me of and the rest of the time it's the treatment and shots from the doctors that keep me healthy. I still have an awesome testimony because he gave me the breath to breathe which sustains me life to praise him. And what is even more amazing is I didn't deserve and he did it anyways. I agree with having a baby where the sex does not matter and you're going to love them irregardless of their gender. I know people who never forget that their parent or parents wanted them to be a different gender and that doesn't help with feeling loved and accepted. I'm a nurse so I can see God working through medicine, hospitals, vaccines, glasses and the like. God does help doctors to discover medicine to help us. God also heals miraculously as well. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:45 pm
Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai by administering a mild strain of teh disease(the antigenic) into ones bloodstream, you build an immunity to that specific disease, which is an alteration to your personal chemistry. No different than rather the disease enter naturally. Ne? The Vaccination is Artificial. and there is no guarantee, actually a very little chance, of you building an immunity if it enters naturally. Ah, but that is not the point, see. And, that all depends on what the vaccine is for... How is it not the point? You are artificially altering your immune system, as opposed to allowing it to form immunities naturally, or, "By the will of God", as you think. ""By the will of God"", care to expound? You might want to find a different example. With or without the vaccine, the exampled 'disease' has a possibility of being overcome. Once again the vaccine does not alter ones genome, either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code With or without choosing your childs Gender, you still might get a Girl. And your Immune System isn't based on your genetic Code. Context?
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:45 pm
flyingemu27 I think it's just stupid. First of all, why does it matter? A child is a gift either way. And second of all, this will probably cause an increase in one gender and the decrease in the other, and one of us might actually be the last man or woman on earth. xd You know, I found out today that India is having a similar problem to the one you mentioned above. In India they have a law that allows you to abort the baby if it's a girl after viewing the ultra sound. So in parts of India, they have all these young men sitting around with no women for them to marry. Insane!
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:50 pm
flyingemu27 I think it's just stupid. First of all, why does it matter? A child is a gift either way. And second of all, this will probably cause an increase in one gender and the decrease in the other, and one of us might actually be the last man or woman on earth. xd Perhaps someone wants that Nuclear Family, one boy and one Girl. I hardly see every single person going out and demanding just girls, and to assume the worst happening is like saying, "Cars? No WAY! Everyone will crash into each other and drive off Cliffs! It's too DANGEROUS!"
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:52 pm
Allythea flyingemu27 I think it's just stupid. First of all, why does it matter? A child is a gift either way. And second of all, this will probably cause an increase in one gender and the decrease in the other, and one of us might actually be the last man or woman on earth. xd You know, I found out today that India is having a similar problem to the one you mentioned above. In India they have a law that allows you to abort the baby if it's a girl after viewing the ultra sound. So in parts of India, they have all these young men sitting around with no women for them to marry. Insane! Hate to berak it to ya, but that little bout of stupidity brought to you by Religion...
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:09 pm
Why wouldn't they just let it happen naturally? I mean, come on.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:36 pm
Imotoku Why wouldn't they just let it happen naturally? I mean, come on. As I said before, people want teh good old fashioned Nuclear Familys, one boy, one girl. Or the heirs syndrome, guy fathers like a half dozen girls, and wants his heir, his little boy.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:17 pm
I think it's just another way of Americans getting what they want when they want. Instant gratification. But whatever. People can do what they want. I'll still choose to go the natural way. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:26 pm
That is what I would choose.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:13 pm
flyingemu27 I think it's just another way of Americans getting what they want when they want. Instant gratification. But whatever. People can do what they want. I'll still choose to go the natural way. 3nodding As would I. If it happens, I look forward to the day to raise my children, my sons, my daughters. And I shall do so with every bit of heart and devotion and all teh love I can provide. But for teh poor chap who just got his seventh daughter and just wants to play soe football...let him have his son for cryin' out loud gonk
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:02 am
Se Ga Takai With or without choosing your childs Gender, you still might get a Girl. True. But there is still the issue of genetics vs. not. Quote: And your Immune System isn't based on your genetic Code. Context? Yep. If ones immune system is not based on their genetic code. Then alteration thereof would not be either, ne?
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:59 am
Skiddishfit Se Ga Takai With or without choosing your childs Gender, you still might get a Girl. True. But there is still the issue of genetics vs. not. Quote: And your Immune System isn't based on your genetic Code. Context? Yep. If ones immune system is not based on their genetic code. Then alteration thereof would not be either, ne? okay...honestly? I have no idea what you're getting at with this post. What?
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