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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:22 pm
Not only is birth control doing what Broorel said..but it also gives people just a reason so they can go out and have sex.*is talking about the slutty whores, not married couples and such* Plus STD's are still a problem.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:23 pm
And apparently we aren't allowed to view the thread anymore? Hmm...
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:48 pm
Siren of Saturn Not only is birth control doing what Broorel said..but it also gives people just a reason so they can go out and have sex.*is talking about the slutty whores, not married couples and such* Plus STD's are still a problem. Not everyone that uses it are slutty whores, i'm on it (though for abit different reason but I still found that offensive). Birth control or not, alot of woman that don't want kids and had them are going to see them as "failures" sadly. It doesn't matter if they used protection or not, they'll still think that way but rather people use birth control to provent pregnancies then then using nothing and getting pregnant and abort the fetus.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:33 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle I see that as anothe form of pro-life. I do feel that all woman, who consnetualy have sex, should "pop out crotch goblens." (Honostly Chat, have a little more respect...geez...). lol, Sonnyboy, didn't you see what I put as an example of so-called "Pro-Pregnancy?" THAT'S pro-pregnacy. You're pro-life and believe that all created embryos (childrenzygotebabiesetc.) should be born. I believe that the mother should be able to abort them. Mr. Name-withheld-to-respect-privacy thinks that all women should pop out more and more and more and more and more and more HYUMANS just because they're women. I'm positive that you're against forcing artificial insemination on unwilling (and abstinent) women to make them have more and more and more etc. (Honestly Pyroteechnic Oracle, dun jump to conclusions or you might find yourself stuck there! confused I was using the term "crotch goblin" versus baby, child, fetus, infant, or whatever for a literary device. If you can't handle it, then substitute whatever you want for it.)
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:36 pm
I.Am Also, I agree with Pyro. I think the whole nitpicking thing is stupid. I'm Pro-Pregnancy. I support women's rights to be pregnant. o.O You are also Pro-Pregnancy. That guy sounds like he's Pro-Children, and Pro-Parenting. I doubt he would want to make it so that, legally, every person must give birth; That's insane. He apparently has the opinion that everyone -should- give birth, but that's his crazy opinion to have. Just like "Pro-Abortion" people are really just Pro-Choice people who believe that it's morally wrong to give birth before a certain age, or if you can't afford (Time-wise, financially, or physically) to take care of the kid yourself. That doesn't mean that they support making it illegal to give birth in those situations (Except for some crazies). The rest of it became ranty, so I'm posting it in the rant thread. No, Mr. Name-withheldetc. and I were not debating abortion. His siggy stated his views oh-so-clearly and said to PM him for a debate. So I did. We were debating about legalizing artificial insemination without consent.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:40 pm
lymelady ..Le Chat du Noir.. I can't even see it, eh? I'm not authorized or anything. Anyways, forcing abortion on someone is PRO-ABORTION. Not pro-choice. Like pro-pregnancy means that they want ALL ALL ALL ALL women to get pregnant and pop out more crotch goblins. YOU guys are pro-life. This dude here is pro-pregnancy. Name withheld to respect privacy noir, i mean that its your higher calling. god gave women wombs and eggs to make something with them. having children is a wondrful blessign and raising them for the Lords army is the greatst thing you can do w/ your life. babies are a blessing and you should have them for God. ...... Actually, I agree with you. Someone saying that you should go and get pregnant purposely to give God babies? Not cool. "Let's tell women they need to be pregnant for God, even if they aren't Christian! That'll work!" That wasn't the start of it either! gonk He was trying to support the legalization of artificial insemination without consent! I mean, as in you're walking down the street and all of a sudden, three thugs grab you, inject your uterus with semen, then let you go, and it's perfectly legal! crying I mean.... Well, I wanted to recommend therapy, but that would be rude of me.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:40 am
sachiko_sohma Siren of Saturn Not only is birth control doing what Broorel said..but it also gives people just a reason so they can go out and have sex.*is talking about the slutty whores, not married couples and such* Plus STD's are still a problem. Not everyone that uses it are slutty whores, i'm on it (though for abit different reason but I still found that offensive). Birth control or not, alot of woman that don't want kids and had them are going to see them as "failures" sadly. It doesn't matter if they used protection or not, they'll still think that way but rather people use birth control to provent pregnancies then then using nothing and getting pregnant and abort the fetus. Oh, please forgive me. I understand that some people have to be on birth control to regulate their hormones and such...but it makes me angry when parents give it to their kids on their 16th birthday and say "have fun!". that's true...but maybe it would show them to take more responsibility in their actions. Anything would be better then to abort a child...but the child itself still has to have a way to learn to know better.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:52 am
Oh? You see, you never said that before. You mearly showed one tiny little quote that dosnt make him sound pro-pregnancy in the slightest, mearly his views on how he views life and the female reproductive organs: as blessings. You gave no further explanation, no further quotes, nothing that would make him sound pro-pregnancy.
I'm now under the impression you've forgotten where you are when you post here. I find that term very disrespectful. So please refraim form using it in the futrue while in our guild. This guild is about valuing the unborn and born life as well as the buety we see in birth. Consideirng where you come from, I have hard time belivein you intended it as a literary device. I'm askign nicely Chat, please don't use such demeaning terms and phrases in our guild. You're int he pro-life quild. No one here is askign you to change your prefrences, we are how ever askign you to show more respect for our way of thinking. This includes not using such demeaning terms as "crotch goblem." Got a problem with that? Well your free to go piss up a tree if you do.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:33 am
..Le Chat du Noir.. (Honestly Pyroteechnic Oracle, dun jump to conclusions or you might find yourself stuck there! confused I was using the term "crotch goblin" versus baby, child, fetus, infant, or whatever for a literary device. If you can't handle it, then substitute whatever you want for it.) if you can't handle the preferences of the people in OUR GUILD, perhaps you should leave. at least show some respect while you're here, you're in, more or less, enemy territory.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:23 pm
Siren of Saturn sachiko_sohma Siren of Saturn Not only is birth control doing what Broorel said..but it also gives people just a reason so they can go out and have sex.*is talking about the slutty whores, not married couples and such* Plus STD's are still a problem. Not everyone that uses it are slutty whores, i'm on it (though for abit different reason but I still found that offensive). Birth control or not, alot of woman that don't want kids and had them are going to see them as "failures" sadly. It doesn't matter if they used protection or not, they'll still think that way but rather people use birth control to provent pregnancies then then using nothing and getting pregnant and abort the fetus. Oh, please forgive me. I understand that some people have to be on birth control to regulate their hormones and such...but it makes me angry when parents give it to their kids on their 16th birthday and say "have fun!". that's true...but maybe it would show them to take more responsibility in their actions. Anything would be better then to abort a child...but the child itself still has to have a way to learn to know better. I think it's dumb that parents give underage kids birth control. On one hand it could teach them responsiblity but on the other hand it it encourge kids to have sex and kids really shouldn't be having sex cause most are still maturing both physically and mentally and the pill can fail as well. I guess parents figure if they can't stop their kids from having sex then try to help them prevent pregnancies.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:33 pm
Note: I don't want to hijack this thread but I don't want to have a whole new entire debate about the subject either... sweatdrop Well.... divineseraph ..Le Chat du Noir.. (Honestly Pyroteechnic Oracle, dun jump to conclusions or you might find yourself stuck there! confused I was using the term "crotch goblin" versus baby, child, fetus, infant, or whatever for a literary device. If you can't handle it, then substitute whatever you want for it.) if you can't handle the preferences of the people in OUR GUILD, perhaps you should leave. at least show some respect while you're here, you're in, more or less, enemy territory. Pyrotechnic Oracle Oh? You see, you never said that before. You mearly showed one tiny little quote that dosnt make him sound pro-pregnancy in the slightest, mearly his views on how he views life and the female reproductive organs: as blessings. You gave no further explanation, no further quotes, nothing that would make him sound pro-pregnancy. I'm now under the impression you've forgotten where you are when you post here. I find that term very disrespectful. So please refraim form using it in the futrue while in our guild. This guild is about valuing the unborn and born life as well as the buety we see in birth. Consideirng where you come from, I have hard time belivein you intended it as a literary device. I'm askign nicely Chat, please don't use such demeaning terms and phrases in our guild. You're int he pro-life quild. No one here is askign you to change your prefrences, we are how ever askign you to show more respect for our way of thinking. This includes not using such demeaning terms as "crotch goblem." Got a problem with that? Well your free to go piss up a tree if you do. Okay! Then I apologize for my oh-so rude and selfish disrepsect, then. wink Oh yes. I can't "piss up a tree" as you said. I'm a girl, yo! Anyways, THIS should clarify things a bit... Name-withheld-to-respect-privacy-and-all-that-other-blubbish-that-I'm-supposed to use ..le Chat du Noir.. Hello there! I recall your signature as stating that you wanted a debate? Is one over the PM system okay with you? I wanted to debate about the views in your signature. sure, im fine w/ that. but i talk like this over pm k, its easier to type. Okay, add the whole beginning of a formal debate here.... Introductions, laying down the rules and statistics of this debate, then etc.etc.'ing. NAMEWITHHELDAGAIN! --Snippety Snip-- Debate: The start of it should be clear. I ate his username. SO HAH! first of all it says clearly in my signature. incase u can't see it anymore i think that artificial insemination without contsent should be perfetly legal. for one thing God gave women reproductive orgens and men none for a reason. woemn should put them to good use because one of the babies might do soemthing really good. for one thing wats wrong with pregacy its a natural function and women love having babies so its in their best interest too. for another thing God loves us and our children and we have to serve His best interestes too because He is our Creator. also think of all the babies that will be happy from now on. its not fair to deprieve the Lord's gifts from an inocent child just because there parents didnt want to have them there are millions of couples that cant have babies but want too..... Okay, let's cut it at that. heart
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:39 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Oh? You see, you never said that before. You mearly showed one tiny little quote that dosnt make him sound pro-pregnancy in the slightest, mearly his views on how he views life and the female reproductive organs: as blessings. You gave no further explanation, no further quotes, nothing that would make him sound pro-pregnancy. Well, one of the hints was refering to pregnancy as a "higher calling". Meaning that he really DOES think women are baby factories.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:49 pm
Perhaps in your opinoin, but I suppose you didn't take into account there are htose out there whos opinoins may differ from yours.
How ever, not that Chat ha sposted the rest of the his responce, theres no argument.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:24 pm
Okay, we're all humans, we all bleed, now STFU and everyone keep it simple.
I don't feel like locking threads or sweeping people under carpets again.
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:56 pm
Yay kp! Everyone else: Don't be so thin skinned. confused
What I was going to say when I saw Le Chat's first replying post:
o.o Gods. Then he's simply a crazy, but I wouldn't give him his own group name. xd
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