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 Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:01 pm
Well a lot of it is unknown some say theay wore bear and wolf pelts and may have been part of an animal cult this is where some of our were wolf myths come from some say that in battle they would take shrooms and things to get all worked up but no one has any real proof on that some even say they wear nuts I don't know. Thear are a few Viking stories about people turning into bears in battle and some say in the sagas that there were whole families of berserkers.   http://www.cdli.ca/CITE/v_berserker.htm
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:15 am
PUNCUATION, MOTHER ********, PUNCUATION!
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:33 am
I have a real hard time with writing spelling any thing dealing with proper use of the english language. It's one of my main learning disabilities I didn't learn to read as fast as others did and it realy sucked. So you will just have to deal with it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:45 pm
Wolf3001 I have a real hard time with writing spelling any thing dealing with proper use of the english language. It's one of my main learning disabilities I didn't learn to read as fast as others did and it realy sucked. So you will just have to deal with it. I think what he was trying to say, is that your post has no periods or commas... it's difficult to read something all in one breath. No biggie, I am friends with several people who are Dyslexic.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:04 am
Hylonomus The word Berserk actually comes from two viking words meaning bare serk. Back then an armored shirt was called a serk, and the bravest, toughest warriors would fight armorless and shirtless, and were called berserkers. They would eat roots and work themselves into a violent frenzy, litereally breaking flood vessles in their eyes, (where the term "seeing red" comes from) and got to the point where they were in such rage that they were impervious to pain and completely reliant on instincts. the serk, as far as I know, isn't particularly a piece of armor. In fact, it seems more commonly used for pieces of clothing, whether an average shirt or even a dress.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:42 am
My apologies, Wolf. Learning disabilities are a b***h. I wouldn't know(unless you call laziness a learning disability), but I can imagine how hard it could be.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:14 pm
Well at times I don't think about it much so I don't do things how they should. But to be honest I realy don't know how or where to use things in writing it drove my teachers nuts in school.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:12 am
Tveir Hylonomus The word Berserk actually comes from two viking words meaning bare serk. Back then an armored shirt was called a serk, and the bravest, toughest warriors would fight armorless and shirtless, and were called berserkers. They would eat roots and work themselves into a violent frenzy, litereally breaking flood vessles in their eyes, (where the term "seeing red" comes from) and got to the point where they were in such rage that they were impervious to pain and completely reliant on instincts. the serk, as far as I know, isn't particularly a piece of armor. In fact, it seems more commonly used for pieces of clothing, whether an average shirt or even a dress. True, but it most likely was referring to chain or leather armor. It is pretty crazy to go into combat with no armor at all.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:58 pm
I would bet they wore some armor if they could aford it but I have heard of people not just vikings running into battle naked to scare the enamy. Li Kwei a folk hero of China often ran of naked in battle with his double axes swinging.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:31 pm
Wolf3001 I would bet they wore some armor if they could aford it but I have heard of people not just vikings running into battle naked to scare the enamy. Li Kwei a folk hero of China often ran of naked in battle with his double axes swinging. The whole point of a berserker is that they went into battle bare-serk, which means no armor, and no shirt. It was similiar to celtic zealots who would charge into battle butt-naked and covered in woad. The woad had a chemical reaction on the skin as well that caused added fury. I'm sure every culture had it's warriors who would fight naked or in little clothing as a sign of bravery. However the word berserk came from the viking term for someone without armor.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:36 pm
interesting concepts, in my experiance, every fight i have been in I have a slowing of time where everything is so slow its like a movie ,almost in freeze frame ,and i keep telling myself to speed up. people tell me they never seen me hit the person but he dropped. so not sure about the relivance, but in my thoughts its from becoming super aware of you and the fight ,including the vicinity where an attack might come from.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:49 pm
I don't have a problem believing they actually did this, what I have trouble believing is that they were these amazing warriors.
In general, Berzerkers are about as credible as a warrior as a Ninja is now adays. Few people know much about them, and they're almost always aggrandized to points that are really unrealistic. (I.e: they can take on whole armies in a small unit). Add that in with the fact that the Norse, historically, while tough, were not known for their skills in battle. They were known for their boatsmanship.
Any case, my main beef with the idea of a "Berzerker" is the fact that while yes, you get an adrenaline rush, and yes, you feel the blows less, someone who is not going ape-s**t and has skill, with clarity, will be able to see your mistakes. They might have the adrenaline rush also, but will be containing it and utilizing it with a clear head.
I've seen too many people act on the berzerker principle and have someone wait as they're charging up, only to put an elbow in their face.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:18 pm
With the style of fighting being used by the the average Viking, going berserk is a good strategy.
Few Vikings could afford swords, instead they used hatchets, axes, clubs and spears.
While the spear has more strategic uses and training behind it, axes and such were basically about chopping up as many people as possible as quickly as possible. While an axe basically does pretty good damage no matter where you strike, it's best just to let insticts take over and go ape s**t in the field.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:53 pm
Hylonomus With the style of fighting being used by the the average Viking, going berserk is a good strategy. Few Vikings could afford swords, instead they used hatchets, axes, clubs and spears. While the spear has more strategic uses and training behind it, axes and such were basically about chopping up as many people as possible as quickly as possible. While an axe basically does pretty good damage no matter where you strike, it's best just to let insticts take over and go ape s**t in the field.
Here's a guy who's letting his instincts take over and swinging his weapon wildly, and a professional soldier who is keeping his cool. I have my vote on the merc. Non-apeshit, better trained soldier wins.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:21 am
The Bull Of The North I don't have a problem believing they actually did this, what I have trouble believing is that they were these amazing warriors.
In general, Berzerkers are about as credible as a warrior as a Ninja is now adays. Few people know much about them, and they're almost always aggrandized to points that are really unrealistic. (I.e: they can take on whole armies in a small unit). Add that in with the fact that the Norse, historically, while tough, were not known for their skills in battle. They were known for their boatsmanship.
First of all, they were not so much known for their boatmanship as they were known for their boats. Secondly, Scandinavia has always been known for skill in battle. The vikings not only had access to steel earlier than most European nations, but are also said to have developed an early kind of advanced shield-fighting in an era when most still concidered the shield to be almost entirely for defense. Add to this how they, despite not using the fleeing-tactics of the russians, never got occupied by a foreign power, only ever by other Scandinavians, until Hitler took Denmark and Norway in WWII. The Swedes were world famous for their army in the years between the Lion of the North and Charles XII, their skills with the sword and unusual tactics (including being the first to move cannons around the battlefield and an unusally heavy reliance on cavalery) being feared across Europe. Of course, the berserkers never took up a very large portion of the population, but when a horde of farmers with pitchforks were able to drive off a danish army not only far superior in number, but also in equipment and training, not to mention experience in defeating several other European armies at the time, starting to build an Empire, back in the twelvehundreds, I would not be talking about a lack of skill in battle. If there is anyone lacking skill in battle, it's the rest of Europe.
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