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 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:50 pm
yeah, the whole "keep what's useful..." thing was a big part of bruce lee's philosophy, which he turned into jeet kune do. I wholeheartedly agree. I think some of the best fighters in the world are mixed martial artists. I don't mean those roughnecks on UFC..they've got some style, but for the most part, they're just big brawlers.
I mean people who've learned multiple styles and adopted what they personally found useful. not everyone's the same, so it goes logically that not one style would fit everyone.
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:52 pm
And that was Bruce's aim......
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:11 pm
Diversity can be a double-edged sword. Practicing all aspects of the game can lead to option paralysis in a combat situation. Keeping only a few choice and proven techniques is a good option until you come across someone who knows the counters. The best option is training all your techniques hard, so that you are ready to react properly to any given situation...
... like we really have all that spare time on our hands to train properly. sweatdrop
All we can do is train hard and pray that we don't have to use it. Push comes to shove, we go for what we are good for and hope for the best.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:20 pm
the keep what is usefull philosophy is ment to be applied to a given situation of course......
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:11 pm
Mythic I think some of the best fighters in the world are mixed martial artists. I don't mean those roughnecks on UFC..they've got some style, but for the most part, they're just big brawlers. And they can beat any martial artist alive. People look down upon them but there just doing what should always be done. Focusing on the fundementals, They train there most simple basic holds, punches and kicks thousands of times a day. They just do what they know will work. Martial Arts needs to get back to that sometimes.
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:12 pm
Doubled Duce Mythic I think some of the best fighters in the world are mixed martial artists. I don't mean those roughnecks on UFC..they've got some style, but for the most part, they're just big brawlers. And they can beat any martial artist alive. People look down upon them but there just doing what should always be done. Focusing on the fundementals, They train there most simple basic holds, punches and kicks thousands of times a day. They just do what they know will work. Martial Arts needs to get back to that sometimes. oh, on that, I agree with you. I don't believe in all that fancy kicking and 14 part chain throws and all that stuff. I know that some of the best fighters in the UFC have got tremendous skill and talent. I think the entire Gracie family revoltionized the way the world sees grappling. but I honestly can't believe that all of the UFC fighters are as good as they claim they are. admittedly, I haven't watched any matches lately..things might have changed, but alot of the matches I've seen in the past can be categorized by the "swing until they fall" mentality. please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm always interested in seeing the other side of things..
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:31 pm
I've seen matches in UFC that would make a person think either one way or the other. It really depends on who it is you are watching in a match. There really are different skill levels in that league......
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:27 pm
Yeah, it also depends on their style. A lot of them a just grapplers looking for tapouts. Some do a lot of standup like kickboxing, though yes, there are what we call "Ground and Pounders" who just want to knock the guys face in. It really depends on the quality of the fighters and their style.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:08 am
Nephilim Blade I've seen matches in UFC that would make a person think either one way or the other. It really depends on who it is you are watching in a match. There really are different skill levels in that league...... Take a look at Wanderlei Silva. He's a KO monster who happens to deliver technique at the same time.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:07 am
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:16 am
as for my fighting style i like mixing tae kwondo, then streetfighting to get them on the ground, hten i use brazilian jujitsu to finish em off. lol
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:18 am
Sounds like an effective combination...
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:30 am
Marty Nozz Diversity can be a double-edged sword. Practicing all aspects of the game can lead to option paralysis in a combat situation. Keeping only a few choice and proven techniques is a good option until you come across someone who knows the counters. The best option is training all your techniques hard, so that you are ready to react properly to any given situation... ... like we really have all that spare time on our hands to train properly. sweatdrop All we can do is train hard and pray that we don't have to use it. Push comes to shove, we go for what we are good for and hope for the best. You are a damn wise man, Marty. Reading "The Tao of Jeet Kune Do", it occurs to me that Lee didn't speak so much about studying everything under the sun, but of studying anything with discipline, and coming out the other side to formlessness. That is, you practice with dedication until you become nothing but a vessel for the Art. To me, Jeet Kune Do cannot be studied or practiced unless you're in the moment of blocking, striking, countering or what have you. You can study any art, and you can still be studying Jeet Kune Do. As for the issue of time, I live by the motto "Train when you can, how you can". I have one piece of training that is non-negotiable (actual class in the dojo), and pick the rest up where I can.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:39 pm
aikido_samurai I was recently in a fight; after quite some time of not having to fight. Anyways, I came to the realization afterwards that although I escaped without a scratch I actually deviated slightly from my formal training. I know that although I research other art forms and schedule my training around their training styles, I didn't think that my formal training would be affected. Anybody have the same problem? ill admit that in my fights i dont go directly by the boxing rules. the way i see it is that boxing basically teaches u to know your own hands, so you know where, when, and how hard to hit.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:36 pm
Since the topic of UFC has been on here a few times I've decided to bring up the Ultimate Finale that was show on spike, If you missed that you missed out, lol, Three contracts were given out, totally deserved in my mind, other people might disagree. Dieago Was brutal in his match against kenny, forest beat stephan in a split decision, all giving 29/28 for hits, not sure if it was two against one or 3 for forest, but he won and they both got contracts, forest just got more stuff lol. and then Ken shamrock was beat in the first round against Rich something, I havn't been following his carrier, but he's beat alot of people in the first round(the rich guy) and they havn't been pushovers....lol I'm still trying to believe that Shamrock was beat in the first round and that he slipped twice...but dam is he ripped for 41...for any age at that matter.
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