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Hm, we should even it up for the Pokemon; as there are only 24 of them (25 counting Unown, which is only legendary anime wise). Maybe we should only use the Digidestined digivolutions from all seasons. They wouldn't all be Mega level, but there are only really two or three Pokemon that get that strong anyway.

When did Lugia, with one kick, send a building sized orb of concrete, steel, and plexiglass flying into an opponent larger than a skyscraper with such force they were severely weakened?! Then there was pushing something of VenomVandemon's size back, which Wargreymon also did.

I haven't even seen Lugia do anything Garudamon couldn't manage.

I'm sure the willpower of the Digidestined will be enough. And Imperialdramon is a Jogress Digimon, so it has twice the willpower Pikachu could possibly hold. And the more physical strength you have also helps, as the bigger the object, the harder it'll be for Mewtwo to animate against its will; then you factor in the willpower of two digimon and their partners....


Hm, dangerous, but Apocalymon would be a match for this...And more. Not to mention you have a limit to how much you can use these attacks.


After reading up on him on Wikipedia, it appears that the wisher needs to actually talk. Mewtwo psychically links to the humans he wants to talk to and makes it seem like his Pokemon speech is in English. Same for the other Pokemon with the exception of Slowking, who actually does talk, and the Team Rocket Meowth. Thus, the Pokemon can't wish, but in essence...The Digimon can....

EDIT: And according to Myx, he just makes things in the current reality fit for the wish. He can't warp reality, he just shifts what's already in it, so he's not a real threat unless they wish for the Digimon to disappear, but then they'd just regroup eventually.

Millenniumon is from the V Tamer games which are available for the Wonderswan. There's some info on him in Wikipedia, and a basic overview of the Tamer games here.

As for Mewtwo + Unown, it doesn't matter if you're Omnipotent against Millenniumon, only one person, Ryo Akiyama, can destroy him! Even destroying him though won't help as unless Ryo is killed as well he'll just reformat. And as far as the Unown go, they're far from this powerful. At least right off. When they lost control of their power because of the little girls emotional instability in the third movie they didn't instantly turn the place into crystal city; they took TIME to do so. Mewtwo would probably be able to channel their power and make himself a Jean Grey level Psychic eventually, but the immediate benefits would pale in comparison to guys like Apocalymon and Milleniumon. Apocalymon could even copy the Unown's power, or, if he wished it, delete them like he did in the 1st season's end.


Well, as Milleniumon and Celebi probably have immunity to their own effects (can't be killed by going back in time and killing them), Milleniumon would probably end up dealing with hundreds of thousands of Celebi, but would be able to destroy them with a few normal attacks as they're not the strongest.

Oh, those kinds of Digimon are defined as just Mega level Digimon in the English, but in the Japanese, they're called "Super Ultimate".


Same thing with MetalSeadramon and the Digimon world's ocean. After he was defeated his power left it and the ocean disintegrated, remember? Unless Kyogre's actually controlled all the water on the planet at the same time, then he's not above MetalSeadramon's power. And it's only a legend in the world of Pokemon that Kyogre created the ocean anyway.

Ah, thanks, I hadn't seen Jirachi in action.

But see, when you said WarGreymon hasn't done anything out of Lugia's capabilities, having kicked something that huge with minimal effort is (as you agreed upon) out of his capabilities. Power wise, he and BlackWarGreymon's Terra Force attacks blew mountains apart. When has Lugia done anything that impressive?


It kind of comes with the job. They have the willpower to keep fighting even in the midsts of a seemingly unbeatable enemy. I'm well aware that Mewtwo can keep something several times larger than a Pikachu going, but it still expends loads of energy. Any Digimon would be fighting him along the way, and far harder to keep moving and preserve energy.


I could see Apocalymon using his many transforming limbs to do the same thing, only times about eight.

I've never seen it, so tell me your assesment after you see it again. Or I might try and find it, I dunno.

The Unown actually lost control of their power due to the girl's overwhelming emotions. Without control is why it was all unleashed in the first place, and it clearly did nothing so extraordinary as what you're saying it could do. Milleniumon and Apocalymon are reality warpers from the beginning anyway. They'd be immune to their own effects (actually, they are, in the last Tamer game you can Jogress a Milleniumon on your own and use all of his reality warping and all that attacks).


We didn't SEE his control, he never did anything but blast opponents with his River of Power. But the fact that he created the ocean and does blast out huge amounts of highly pressurized water for his River of Power attack show at least as much power as Kyogre. At least until you see the movie to prove otherwise, he's stronger. The myth may or may not be real, but you have to prove that it is real.

Firstly, I thought that Apocilomon could only copy digimon, tough I could be wrong. And don't even try a "well that means that mew canm only copy pokemon"counter argument, since dito, who has a copy ability identical to mews, has been shown to copy things that obviously aren't pokemon, like people or inadimite objects.

Second, the unknown seemed to lose controll of their power due to the the unstability of the girls mind/emotions. Post Mewtwo strikes back Mewtwo is anthing mentaly unstable. And it seemed to me that the unknown were only limited to the mind of their host, and mewtwo's mind is cappable of much more than the little girl's.

And at the risk of being picky, Kyoger didn't use rain dance, nor does it to the best of my knowledge ever learn rain dance. It used it's specal abillity, rain maker or something, I can't remmber exactly.

And I have thought of another, rather complex win senario for the pokemon. Since celibi has the ability to transport others through time, he could send out an army of Celibis to collect thousands of mews and have them all copy milleniumon. If Millinumon is realy immune to his own reality warping powers, any mew who coppies him should posses such an immunity as well. Summoning a coupple hundred mewtwos and mabey a few sets of unknowns wouldn't hurt eaither. How the fight would go on after that point is hard to tell...

Mewtwo isn't Omnipotent currently and would need augmentation to do so.....unless he could tap into the DNA of all the pokemon thatt exists. Then he'd become omnipotent in some degree. All of the unknown's power with unwavering control, unlimited regeneration from multiple pokemon, enough psychic power to be Jean Grey's equal. The ability to command all the elements. It goes on and on. But this is only Mewtwo if he can fully utilize every ioata of power his DNA grants him.

I could ho on to state that the attacks of digimon still count as digimon, but I'll drop it.

Just because you lose controll of your powers doesn't mean you're using all of it. As much as I'd hate to bring up dragon ball GT, a good example would be SSJ4. Golden ape and SSJ4 are essentialy the same thing, only SSJ4 is with near total controll over it's power. SSJ4 is a lot more powerful than golden ape form. Another good example is Ichigo from bleach. He has insane power potential, but very little controll over it, making him fairly weak. The more controll he gains, the more powerful he becomes. I could think of several more examples, but you get the idea. And no, the Unknown don't give anyone their power, they feed off of someones mind to increase their power, but it's all to the same basic effect.

Could you explain to me why in the seven heaven or hells why the pokemon don't just freakn' kill Ryo? I mean, it's not like they can't find out the secret to Milliumons regeneration, since a fair portion of the pokemon can read minds. Even if he is in a diffrent dimension, Unknown is cappable of interdimensional travel(as shown in a series episode I can't remmber the name of) and ther's always the possiblity of telporting him there with Juranch's wish, which wouldn't reqire any reality warping.

Now as for the speed problem, time stops when Juranchi uses time travel, and no one but Milliniumomon can follow him into diffrent time zones, plus the Celibi's of other timelines could instantly replace Celibi if it were killed, so he should be OK. When is it said that Ulfore V-dramon can move at FTL speeds? I'll grant him over mack speed easily, but light? For one thing, it takes him significant ammounts of time tto get from one point to another in the digital world, which is the exact same sixe as earth. Light can travel to any place on the earth in less than a second. He also seems to never be moving at light speed when fighting, nor did Chaos Lucimon, who I'm surprised you haven't brought up yet, since I think he's supposed to be all around superior to the knights. I alwayys peged Omnimon as one of the faster digimon as well, and it took him a few second to fly up to the last diaboramon and stab it. Also, the knight at the very least aren't going to do any speed blitzing. They have to monolog first, they have serious arrogance/underestimating issues, and they've never even tried to kill the digidestant before they spirit evolved. Omnimon's powerful, but Mewtwo at the very least can outspeed him. The soverens aren't all that tough, Megagargolmon was able to fight pretty evenly with one, and the Soverens seemed to think they didn't stand a chance against the D reapers, tough the digidestant took out a small army of them.

That's a great idea, only how does Melliniumon learn and where they first came into exsistance. And the millions of Celibies are going to follow him wherever he goes, probably bringing other with them. Having apocolymon blow them up in some random dimension is about the stupidest idea the digimon could have. There's no way that Mewtwo can't take controll over one digimon(apocolimon) in a desolent dimension with no distractions. All he has to do is transport Apacolymon back to the deminsion where all the digimon are and have him explode there, killing everything except Milliumon.

And I found a way arround the verbal wishes loophole. Almost all digimon can speak, so Mewtwo just has to take controll of one of them and have them make the wish.

@Mxy-Wether or not Mewtwo has the DNA of the unkown or not is questionable, since they apparently came from another dimension. He also wouldn't have the abilitys of Porigon, Porigon 2 or Castform since they're man made, not that it's a terrible loss.

Ok, I now officaly have no clue who uniforce V-dramon is. If there are a significant number of Digimon who can go FTL, then they probably win this one, which is what I thought in the first place, but...

Lucymon gave the tamers more trouble than the knights did combined, plus he has the data of the knights along with most of the digitsl world, so I assume he's stronger.

The Cellibies aren't going to let Milliniumon check every moment of the history of the pokemon world without confrontation.

Wait, wha? When did I ever say that Mewtwo would or could travel interdemensionaly? And I dout that the digimon are going to go through trouble of making sure the pokemon can't stop the explosion if they think there's no way they possibly can.

Mewtwo is a big assest to me because despite the fact that Celibi's power makes it much more useful is that he's the most powerful pokemon(asside from Ho-oh, but since we don't know what Ho-oh is cappable of he can't be used in this argument), and that mind control/reading are very useful. In fact he could even potentialy copy Celibi's time contolling power. Hell, it's possible that during the battle an army of Mewtwos with full use of their DNA could come from the futer to help, but that's to much up to speculation for a vs. thread, IMO.