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comrade acurion 120

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:15 am


Well i belive that the sepecific question is retorical so there fore has or is not ment to have an answer though here is somthing more Philisophical you can ponder your brains on "If a Box at any one period or place existed and no one knew it existed would it exist?"
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:45 pm


comrade acurion 120
Well i belive that the sepecific question is retorical so there fore has or is not ment to have an answer though here is somthing more Philisophical you can ponder your brains on "If a Box at any one period or place existed and no one knew it existed would it exist?"

My point is that it is inimportant because the existence of the box in question is moo tbecause if know one knows about it then if it is there is or if the tree makes a sound is futile.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:01 am


Hmm... here's one...
Why does my avatar have no hair?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:19 pm


Kagerou Osajima
Hmm... here's one...
Why does my avatar have no hair?

ummm It looks like it does though eek

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:48 pm


luftwafe
Kagerou Osajima
Hmm... here's one...
Why does my avatar have no hair?

ummm It looks like it does though eek

Looks can be deceiving. pirate
What is hair... what is my avatar?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:39 am


Kagerou Osajima
luftwafe
Kagerou Osajima
Hmm... here's one...
Why does my avatar have no hair?

ummm It looks like it does though eek

Looks can be deceiving. pirate
What is hair... what is my avatar?

ummm... your avitar hair included is a bunch of electrons suspended in computers.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:38 pm


luftwafe
Kagerou Osajima
luftwafe
Kagerou Osajima
Hmm... here's one...
Why does my avatar have no hair?

ummm It looks like it does though eek

Looks can be deceiving. pirate
What is hair... what is my avatar?

ummm... your avitar hair included is a bunch of electrons suspended in computers.

Bah! My avatar is a picture. Pictures don't have hair, really, now do they? ninja
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:28 pm


Quote:
Bah! My avatar is a picture. Pictures don't have hair, really, now do they? ninja

well they have what we percive as hair therefore they do.

comrade acurion 120


Maryhl

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:08 pm


comrade acurion 120
Quote:
Bah! My avatar is a picture. Pictures don't have hair, really, now do they? ninja

well they have what we percive as hair therefore they do.

Sorta... but only in the same way we perceive meaning from written words.... and koans are all about breaking "false" perceptions. ;P
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:43 pm


This question entirely depends on your definition of sound. No, not Oxford's or Wikipedia's definition, yours. If you believe that sound does not need to be heard to be there, than it exists. If you believe the contrary, than it does not.
There is no way to prove it, either way.

Existence of Self


Totle

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:15 pm


Demon Kagerou

The full implication of the tree falling in the woods can also be asked with this question: who were you before you were born?
are you refering to buddhist reincarnation?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:00 pm


Totle
Demon Kagerou

The full implication of the tree falling in the woods can also be asked with this question: who were you before you were born?
are you refering to buddhist reincarnation?

It's "rebirth" for Buddhist. Small word with a profound difference.

Maryhl

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cyphgenic

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:41 pm


If sounds are listened to, then if a tree falls in a forest, it needs a listener in order to make a sound.

Someone might say, "Well, there are vibrations in the air." But if there is no one to note those vibrations, you can't say they are there.

The philosopher, Berkeley, believed that if a tree falls in a forest, it does make a sound because God is there to hear it. He requires God for metaphysical rather than religious reasons. Without God constantly perceiving (hearing, seeing the universe), the world would be constantly going in and out of existence.

Weird stuff, if you ask me. ^_^
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:15 pm


You can't say something exists without proof it exists. If there is no memory of the sound, the sound can't have happened. Only if beings are there to perceive it can it be said to exist. Existence exists only in memory. Without memory, non-existance begins. Therefore, it does not make a sound if no one hears it, because no one remembers hearing it.

Yoshimasa_the_Radiant


grasscutter

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:17 pm


Wait technically aren't isn't sound as our ears perceive the sound waves? If there were no ears ot translate them to sound they wouldn't make a sound...

I could be completely wrong with that point, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading that somewhere....
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