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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:30 pm


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Having carried two children myself, and been through that process. I would have had the child anyways. The OB/GYN office I went to still made me undergo testing for every known potential problem even though I told them that I didn't care what the results were. Shaun (my husband) and I both agreed very early on that we would have the child regardless of what came up. There is something indescribable about the process of carrying and having a child, and then holding it after it is born. Even if I knew the child I would have would only live for a few days, I would still want it. I wouldn't be happy knowing that it would die, but I would still consider it a joy.

Besides... carrying a child for nine months isn't nearly as bad as a lot of people think it is. You can typically continue on as you did before with only minor adjustments. I can give examples if you really want. I see it as a time to bond with your child before it's born. It is amazingly interactive for being unborn. It responds to music, voices, and it adjusts its patterns of activity to yours... namely when you're up and walking around a lot it "sleeps" because your movement lulls it to rest. When you lay down it will move around. My husband was convinced that my oldest was trying to learn kung-fu in-utero. sweatdrop It's all in how you see it. If you have a negative attitude, of course it's going to be an awful process.. kind of one of those self-fulfilling prophesy things.
You know, it's interesting that talking about loving a child while it's in the womb (see above) can lead to observations like this....


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I submit to you the example of a harlequin fetus. Such a child would die within a couple days of being born, in excruciating pain for all of its short life. One of my guild members posted this on the pro-life forum, I believe, and one girl there said even if she knew it was a harlequin she would still carry it to term, because she loved carrying and having children. that is so selfish it is grotesque and sickening in my mind.



Because it's obviously extremely selfish to give a child a shot at life instead of condemning him or her to death immediately. A chance to give that baby even a few minutes of physical, complete, unconditional love. To carry a child to term, hold it in your arms, and watch him or her die. I seriously dunno where that came from, but Veled had the same sentiments, so maybe I'm just bizarre...or maybe it's just that I see a fetus as a living person anyway, and that I know that babies respond to people even when they're in the womb. My cousins used to play classical music to the belly. no lie. She has an incredible knack for music, no one knows where it comes from. She can pick out tunes and really hear and create her own music. not just noise. music. she's doing things at 7 that I can't do at 17. of course, I walked out on piano lessons....after I punched my teacher in the jaw...and only got three years of lessons. lol, I dunno, it's superstitious, but sometimes I think it worked.

to further prove this, I was entering my terrible twos when my mom was pregnant with my brother. I screamed, cried, and yelled at the top of my lungs....and he had a hearing problem until he was four.

lol jk, about the me causing it part, but seriously.

Another reason I don't like these mercy killings is because sometimes doctors are wrong and babies are born perfectly healthy....or a cure is discovered in time, or w/e. My best friend's like that. God, dunno what I'd do without her. Yes I do, I just don't want to think about it.

I still don't see how it's selfish to let your baby die in loving arms as opposed to being sliced up, sucked out, bagged or burned.

I'm just ranting at this point because I could never imagine killing my offspring. There's a bond there between a fetus and a mother. I guess maybe not between everyone. just everyone I've known who's been pregnant.

One woman was going to get an abortion...the baby hadn't kicked yet, and really it was too early for it to be able to kick but as she was turning into the clinic it kicked. She got this kinda jolt and felt, wow, that's my baby, and kept on going, past the clinic. I just thought that was kinda neat. But she's happy she didn't abort her daughter, so she decided it was a sign from God.


Then again, I'd have to think the mere fact that she got a healthy pregnancy would be a sign from God....


that is very true- before this, i would have agreed that an abortion would be acceptable. but i realize that there is still a chance at life, a cure, or it might simply not be 100% fatal, just in most cases, as with the one harlequin man who survived. it was assumed fatal since none yet had lived, but he managed. and even if not, he still would have led a life to the most extent possible, being held by his mother for even just a few hours is so much more... loving
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:25 am


Having Harlequin type ichthyosis is not always an automatic death sentence; quite a few people live with it depending on the degree
I actually watched a documentary a few months ago about the illness. They showed a few girls who had it and they're able to live a fairly normal life, have friends, go to school, play sports and one of them is even a teacher.
There is also a boy in America who has the illness and participates in triathlons.

So, no, I do not believing aborting a baby because it has a disability is acceptable. In fact, as someone who was born with disabilities I find it offensive that choicers would have supported my mother if she wanted to murder me while in the womb domokun

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