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 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:25 am
seffy_chan DocWho lame idea .... a seperate forum for every incarnation xp so you dont get lost in discustions about certain episodes xD and you can check all the topics about your favo docs without looking your brains out if we were bigger.. yeah.. I'd totaly do that... but we're soo small crying you must think biiiig even though your small now. it will get biiiig i hope xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:58 am
mabey you could have a comp where everyone has to make a signature featuring all the doctors and the best one wins.
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The_Enigmatic_SEF Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:16 pm
sweatdrop we already did that.. but we could have it again? domokun I duno...
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:43 pm
wait.. come back.. all ideas are important.. even if I don't do it now I might do it later.. crying you didn't have to delete your post.
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The_Enigmatic_SEF Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:17 am
seffy_chan wait.. come back.. all ideas are important.. even if I don't do it now I might do it later.. crying you didn't have to delete your post. Who had an Idea? I'm foncused.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:31 pm
Benzyme seffy_chan wait.. come back.. all ideas are important.. even if I don't do it now I might do it later.. crying you didn't have to delete your post. Who had an Idea? I'm foncused. Kelyn.. you'd know that if you loged into your alter ego and checked the moderator panel.
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The_Enigmatic_SEF Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:40 am
seffy_chan Benzyme seffy_chan wait.. come back.. all ideas are important.. even if I don't do it now I might do it later.. crying you didn't have to delete your post. Who had an Idea? I'm foncused. Kelyn.. you'd know that if you loged into your alter ego and checked the moderator panel. *evils* My drama teacher gave me evils today. Stupid short cow.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:51 pm
I might be a little foreward at saying this but... Perhaps a little extermination is in order.
I mean, so many threads with just 13 or 14 posts or less, it seems as if its just more... unguided and lacking real responses.
For the time being, perhaps making the forums more concise by making more general threads may help.
In example, have threads (dare I say this) dedicated to each doctor, so other threads need not created.
Instead of just a picture subforum, make it more creative, opening it up for the guild games which (being fresh into the guild) i caught sight after sight of, as well as other acts of creativity.
To me, no offense, a guild should be like a building. The main page is the strictest on rules, but it displays the cream of the crop threads, such as the best discussions, stongest topics, and (I know I'll be slammed for this) a single, off topic thread. Not every single post you make will be relevant. Its a strict impossiblity. Just like at work, you have your water cooler which people can stand around and tell what's going on in their lives, which allows for venting, but not a complete dissolving of the topic at hand.
The subforums should be oriented towards the attitude you wish to convey in them. IF you want a subforum, say, for art, you have it not be jsut for pictures, but all sorts of creative kinds of works, and expect people to be the artsier kinds of attitudes.
Oh, and the RP.... Dr. Who... Rps... Perhaps (and another bold move by me) a sort of... review over what is made would be useful. I mean, no offense to those who create the rps, but everyone doing nearly the same thing (doctor's in his next phase, or the current one, to go battle the same foes and with the same already pre-made on the telly's show sidekicks) is not condusive to a good rp environment. Everyone wants to be the doctor, or their favorite sidekick, and with a growing guild, the chances of exciting, new, and unique stories brought forth, that can accomidate more than 2-5 people just becomes more and more unfeasible in my mind.
*disclaimer: these are just suggestions. I am only giving them from prior knowledge with the moderation of my guilds, not because I attempt to be any sort of arse (dumb, smart, arrogant, or other).*
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Hairy Priest Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:48 pm
Thanks for offering up your suggestions. Here's my thoughts on what you've recommended: Nelowulf I might be a little foreward at saying this but... Perhaps a little extermination is in order. I mean, so many threads with just 13 or 14 posts or less, it seems as if its just more... unguided and lacking real responses. For the time being, perhaps making the forums more concise by making more general threads may help. If someone wanted to start a general thread for discussing a particular topic, they are free to do so. However, because the guild isn't very large, I personally feel it would be counterproductive to officially require that members conform to rigid standards when it comes to posting, although we will lock threads which are clearly duplicates of existing ones. Stringent rules on what is or is not acceptable to post will likely decrease the level of camaraderie the guild currently enjoys. Nelowulf In example, have threads (dare I say this) dedicated to each doctor, so other threads need not created. There are a couple such threads (I tried starting one up for Hartnell a few months ago, as a matter of fact). The problem is that many of the members here do not have extensive knowledge of the classic series, and thus there are only a handful of people that can really contribute meaningful discussion to threads about earlier incarnations of the Doctor. Nelowulf Instead of just a picture subforum, make it more creative, opening it up for the guild games which (being fresh into the guild) i caught sight after sight of, as well as other acts of creativity. If you're referring to the Hurt/Heal games in the general forum, those are actually rather new, and I don't know that I'd consider them 'creative'. The first one began about a month before the start of the new season, and was mainly an experiment to see if people would post more regularly if they had an excuse to stop by every day. Now that the show is on again, there's less need, as we've got a new material every week to discuss. Nelowulf The subforums should be oriented towards the attitude you wish to convey in them. IF you want a subforum, say, for art, you have it not be jsut for pictures, but all sorts of creative kinds of works, and expect people to be the artsier kinds of attitudes. To some extent, I agree. Certainly I think it would be nice to have a place for people to post fanfics and other creative works that currently have no obvious subforum to go in. I could see fanfics going with the pictures as a "Creative" subforum as you suggest, or as a "Literature" subforum with the RPs. If people would really like for a change in the subforums, the best thing to do is to make your desires known! Seffy chan has always tried her best to tailor the guild to meet the interests of its members. Nelowulf Oh, and the RP.... Dr. Who... Rps... Perhaps (and another bold move by me) a sort of... review over what is made would be useful. Again, I agree to some extent. After a certain point an RP becomes too long for new people to join, as they would be overwhelmed trying to read everything that had gone on before. I was considering putting up a sticky thread where people could post summaries of what had happened in their RPs, which would give new people an easier time trying to jump in. But I never got around to it... mainly because I figured no one would be willing to actually go and write the damn things! You've got some thoughtful ideas, but perhaps the best way to convince others of the validity of your suggestions is to demonstrate it yourself. So, for example, you could start up your own RP, dictating the terms of how you think a good RP should be run. If people like what they see, they may seek to emulate how you do things. In such a way, things are improved without the Crew having to enforce any changes at all.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:48 pm
It was just first impression observations. For someone fresh to the guild, (though I usually am much more observant than others) those were the primary flaws.
However, If I was to demonstrate, as you say, it would be counter productive, as you would incorporate what my personal convictions would be, rather than the assemblance of the guilds decision as a whole.
So in essence, I should be the last to do anything, as 1) it is not my guild, 2) I don't have the power to do much of the stuff which I would do to make it the way shown, and thereby demonstrating, and 3) I simply do not have the time for the next month or so to perform such feats.
That is why the guild leaders must view the comments, and make decisions based upon those decisions and thereinby lead the guild, rather than having people, such as my minor minute self, confangle someone else's ideas.
If people are uneducated about the earlier seasons, it is not an excuse to deny a thread about them. In fact, its incentive. If only a very few people know about a particular doctor, then they can turn around and re-educate the misinformed masses.
For example, I in the US of A know little of your British guy Tennant, as he isn't on any television that I have found as of yet over here. I personally doubt that his acting skills are so greatfully wonderful as everyone proclaims, and rather think that the only reason he is liked is because everyone else does not know of him.
However, if you speak to me about Hartnell, probably the most vindictive, cruel, and maniuplative doctor of them all (despite you sly mccoy lovers out there, I'm not directing this at you- may i be lucky never to see him glorified next to the great baker or pertwee, sorry again), you will find that I know much more about his style, his story, and possibly a much clearer explanation than from others.
So it would be condusive to the guild to thereinby allow for that transmission of knowledge, rather than staunching it with a tourniquette simply because of a lackthereof.
But that is not my decision. That is why you have moderators. It is because they ultimately have the final decision. Wether they wish to be nazis or slackers, its their job.
Oh, one more suggestion: Make a proper rule list. In my guild, I wrote the rules, but I explained everything in detail. Garunteed, nobody really reads the rules anyway, and you sit back and warn them several times not to disrupt the peace if it is, but it is often times nice to know that there are procedures to possibly revocate the punishment, should a ban be threatened, than simply saying, "sucks to be you".
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:06 pm
Hairy Priest Nelowulf Oh, and the RP.... Dr. Who... Rps... Perhaps (and another bold move by me) a sort of... review over what is made would be useful. Again, I agree to some extent. After a certain point an RP becomes too long for new people to join, as they would be overwhelmed trying to read everything that had gone on before. I was considering putting up a sticky thread where people could post summaries of what had happened in their RPs, which would give new people an easier time trying to jump in. But I never got around to it... mainly because I figured no one would be willing to actually go and write the damn things! Speaking as an RP-er here I would definitely agree with the suggestion of reviews and things - anything to get more writers in would be great! If it helps, I would post summaries regularly. I can't really speak for the others... but I'm sure they wouldn't be totally against it either. I also agree with having a fanfiction subforum (seperate from pictures/RPs me thinks) because I know there are a few fanfiction writers in the guild now and I'd like to be able to read their stuff other than just when they're brave/proud enough to post a link in a thread. Finally, the other thing that interested me was the notes on single Doctor threads (like the 1st/3rd we have at the mo). I agree that they haven't been overly successful and I think that's a pity because I'd like them - provided they don't exclude talk of any of the incarnations in other threads. I'm not too keen on anything that limits what people can say. I like it that everyone talks about everything here. I think maybe the single Doctor threads would be more successful/useful if they became a bit more educational - sort of like 'guides' to each of the Doctors and the actors that play them with pictures and episode info and so on. It would be interesting to dedicated fans and useful to those who haven't seen those particular incarnations yet. I'd certainly be glad to do a Patrick Troughton one! biggrin And I like the discussion that started in the First Doctor one... it just needs to get bigger and better. There. That's all I wanted to say.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:15 pm
I have an idea for the RP.
Unfortunately it requires three things:
1) It demands at least some knowledge of every season ever produced.
2) Nobody would enjoy it because each jump in the tardis means that everyone woudl change characters.
and 3) My RPs usually are much more complex, often times requiring me to actually be overseeing the entire RP, which means everyone is nudged in a certain direction or another... which some people may object to as it not being an rp, but simply a living fanfiction.
But I doubt many would agree to such "demands", so I won't attempt it.
As for the single doctor threads, I don't mind if they limit discussion to a single doctor. I mean, you can go astray on another topic, but don't have a Tom Baker thread turn into an "I love Tennant" thread after three pages.
Basically, you can go off on tangents, but stick to the main idea.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:24 pm
(In reference to your RP idea) If you're going to give up so easily then why did you suggest it? (not meant to sound cruel - you know what I mean!) And remember you should never jump to conclusions. First off, I think you over-estimate people's attachment to their characters. I know several who have jumped about doing different characters (of their own creation in general). Second, I tried the equivalent of a fanfiction RP myself (though I'll admit it's slipping a little now... I have to think up some more ideas) and I think as long as you have at least two enthusiastic people it would work. And you'll definitely find them in the guild.
If you don't try you'll never find out!
As far as advanced knowledge goes... well, we all have our own 'sections' of the series that we know off by heart and - yes, I'll admit - other sections we know little to nothing about (a few experts aside) but that's why I came to this guild, to talk to the others and fill in the gaps. Even with the RPs there should be some incentive to expand on yours and others Doctor Who knowledge.
Well, I like to think so... confused
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:33 pm
Why do I not start it?
Very simple: I haven't planned far enough to make it worthy. See, when I have an RP, i don't simply plan what events happen within the month.
No, you misunderstand my intentions... I plan RPs nearly a full year in advance (enough action and events to make an rp last a full year), so not to get caught by the short hairs on suddenly lacking storylines and plot turns. If somehting comes up, I rearrange the events, or edit accordingly.
its much better than starting fresh.
That's why I don't start it now. I'm simply not prepared enough yet. I have to come up with storylines, create story boards (which I finalize by then asking people to come up with characters, which I then place into appropriate gaps), and come up with every neccessity I can.
My RPs only fail for one reason: People lack dedication to teh RP. NEVER have I EVER created an RP which ended simply from a lack of Ideas. I made a two-year fantasy RP last, even if I had to steal an idea or two from a D&D handbook, it was not ended simply with a lack of fresh quests.
That is my reason for delay. Not because I give up easily. Its because I am prepared for the experience. I can have people attest to the fact my RPs are definately involved, requireing dedication, but they are never. ever. boring.
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