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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:11 am
Try getting some taped lessons on judaism 3nodding . You can also get CDs and transfer them to an MP3 player and listen to them while you play, work, drive, wait or breathe (yea xd ). Even if you may not be listening completely, it gets in subconsiously 3nodding !
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:12 am
tsshark tsvi, tou can call me tomer on this forum, we are all friends here xd tsadik... i "can" call you that in forums and any other way i want blaugh
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:10 am
nathan_ngl Try getting some taped lessons on judaism 3nodding . You can also get CDs and transfer them to an MP3 player and listen to them while you play, work, drive, wait or breathe (yea xd ). Even if you may not be listening completely, it gets in subconsiously 3nodding ! my rabbi thinks his ipod is the greatest thing since rashi.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:11 am
darkphoenix1247 Anybody visiting some colleges? sweatdrop ninja
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:16 am
ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl Try getting some taped lessons on judaism 3nodding . You can also get CDs and transfer them to an MP3 player and listen to them while you play, work, drive, wait or breathe (yea xd ). Even if you may not be listening completely, it gets in subconsiously 3nodding ! my rabbi thinks his ipod is the greatest thing since rashi. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl HAHAHAHAHA. My brothers rolling over here...
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:25 am
tsvi_tyl ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl Try getting some taped lessons on judaism 3nodding . You can also get CDs and transfer them to an MP3 player and listen to them while you play, work, drive, wait or breathe (yea xd ). Even if you may not be listening completely, it gets in subconsiously 3nodding ! my rabbi thinks his ipod is the greatest thing since rashi. rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl HAHAHAHAHA. My brothers rolling over here... i kid you not. he's got all of shas on there.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:45 am
um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:25 am
ZonkotheSane nathan_ngl Try getting some taped lessons on judaism 3nodding . You can also get CDs and transfer them to an MP3 player and listen to them while you play, work, drive, wait or breathe (yea xd ). Even if you may not be listening completely, it gets in subconsiously 3nodding ! my rabbi thinks his ipod is the greatest thing since rashi. Wait till he sees the new MCs comming out soon xd
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:29 am
nice... but what would you do with all the shas on the ipod? it's kinda hard to learn through a device...well, if he want to learn that way... sababos biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:30 am
tsshark nice... but what would you do with all the shas on the ipod? it's kinda hard to learn through a device...well, if he want to learn that way... sababos biggrin The newer iPods have a better interface than the mini, nano and G1-3s... You can see quite well, actually xd .
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:30 am
mellella um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool thats because the torah study (the deeper part) is more ment for men.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:10 am
tsvi_tyl mellella um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool thats because the torah study (the deeper part) is more ment for men. kind of sexist, don't you think? sweatdrop I mean I understand and all- one of my best female friends is orthodox, but that doesn't mean I enjoy that sweatdrop
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:19 am
darkphoenix1247 tsvi_tyl mellella um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool thats because the torah study (the deeper part) is more ment for men. kind of sexist, don't you think? sweatdrop I mean I understand and all- one of my best female friends is orthodox, but that doesn't mean I enjoy that sweatdrop trust me, it's not sexist. in jewish society, both sexes are technically equal; but hardly congruent. males are more dominant in many ways, but at the same time women have many less responsibilities. the two genders may seem unequal, but in fact just have two drastically different roles. for a women to study torah in-depth, ie, gemara (tanach, and in some cases mishnah, is not considered"in-depth", in their simplest form) is forbidden/discouraged, simply because that is not their role. since the males hold authority positions, they are more suited to be scholars. also, the study of torah was created with the male brain in mind. anyone who has any sort of biology education knows that male and female brains function quite differently, and the torah is catered to the male's. now, this doesn't really make a difference on the simple level- after all, reading a book isn't so hard, is it? but when it gets deeper, the difference appears. gemara, even on the simple level, is rather deep, and very hard to understand. tanach (the bible, consisting of the pentateuch, prophets, and writtings) on the other hand, is not so hard to understand on the simple level, and rashi helps. women are encouraged to learn what pertains to them, ie, halachos of shabbos, kosher, niddah, etc. sorry if that doesn't make so much sense sweatdrop and cindy, why not ask your friend about it?
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:35 pm
darkphoenix1247 tsvi_tyl mellella um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool thats because the torah study (the deeper part) is more ment for men. kind of sexist, don't you think? sweatdrop I mean I understand and all- one of my best female friends is orthodox, but that doesn't mean I enjoy that sweatdrop is more of the meaning of the fact that women are not obligated in all the mitzvas (the ones that time made) and halacha is about (a big part) those things, even so women are allowed to keep those mitzvas such as: going to shul and pray, counting the "oumer".
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:06 pm
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 tsvi_tyl mellella um...only the boyz have to learn gemara and mishna stuff in our skool thats because the torah study (the deeper part) is more ment for men. kind of sexist, don't you think? sweatdrop I mean I understand and all- one of my best female friends is orthodox, but that doesn't mean I enjoy that sweatdrop trust me, it's not sexist. in jewish society, both sexes are technically equal; but hardly congruent. males are more dominant in many ways, but at the same time women have many less responsibilities. the two genders may seem unequal, but in fact just have two drastically different roles. for a women to study torah in-depth, ie, gemara (tanach, and in some cases mishnah, is not considered"in-depth", in their simplest form) is forbidden/discouraged, simply because that is not their role. since the males hold authority positions, they are more suited to be scholars. also, the study of torah was created with the male brain in mind. anyone who has any sort of biology education knows that male and female brains function quite differently, and the torah is catered to the male's. now, this doesn't really make a difference on the simple level- after all, reading a book isn't so hard, is it? but when it gets deeper, the difference appears. gemara, even on the simple level, is rather deep, and very hard to understand. tanach (the bible, consisting of the pentateuch, prophets, and writtings) on the other hand, is not so hard to understand on the simple level, and rashi helps. women are encouraged to learn what pertains to them, ie, halachos of shabbos, kosher, niddah, etc. sorry if that doesn't make so much sense sweatdrop and cindy, why not ask your friend about it? yeah, like in the talmud they explain thing really deep like for example: there are "pesokim" in the torah talking about safe-keeping so the gamara learns from them this (i wont explain how is too long): there are 4 types of ways for the item to be taken away(there are levels): 1)the safe-keeper didnt keep it safe well and it was stolen or taken away (bruned ect...) 2)he kept it safe well, and it got taken away. 3)it was taken away from him by with no outside control. 4)(this is got to be a animal) it died on account of work (not too hard). so they also take 3 kinds of safe-keepers with levels: 1)a unpaid safe-keeper: he is obligated to pay for the loss of the object (that was taken away) only if he didnt keep it safe well. 2)a paid safe-keeper: he is obligated to pay for the loss of the object not only if he didnt keep it safe well but even kept it safe well. 3)borrower: he has to pay not only if he didnt keep it safe well and not only that but if he did keep it safe and even if the object was taken away withot outside control. (he is free of pay if it died of normal work.) but the talmud asks about the borrower: it says in the "pasuk" in the bible only that he is obligated to pay if it was taken away from him with no outside control! how do you say he pays if it was taken away if he didnt keep it safe well but even if he kept it safe well!? answer: we said "out of control" is level 3 here if for level 3 he pays, not keeping it safe and keeping it safe that they are levels 1+2 he pays for sure. complicated huh? sweatdrop
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