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 Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:35 pm
BakaTulip Spartan-4202 BakaTulip And NO METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL IS 100% EFFECTIVE, just because a condom broke and a woman wanted a career and was not ready for a baby YOU want her to have it and ruin her life. (This happened to a friend of mine, and she wasn't even the unwanted child, her brother was, and her mother takes out her ruined life by making her kids suffer) Learn a few things before you go around sounding like an a**. Plus a fetus is not a baby and not a citizen. Any adult who is going to have heterosexual sex, (with or without protection) should be mature enough to deal with the consequences. either adoption or raise it. It's not like we don't know what causes pregnancy. If you want to show your love, that go ahead. (besides, sex isn't the only way to show love) but be prepared to deal with the consequences if you get a baby. And deal with it like a fraeking adult. not like a scared kid. By telling women what they have to do with their unborn fetus is like the hetereosexual homophobes telling us not to get married. Woah...slow down the consperisy theory train. The only reason why i belive abortion is beacue it's the taking of another life. The connection your trying to make is like PETA saying that fur trade legalization is conected to the government useing mind controling immunizations. Nice job looking like one of the editers of The Smoking Gun. (50gold to the first one that can pm what that is wink )
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:40 pm
Saoszuc Again, I direct you folks to the ******** Abortion Debate thread in ED. All your various arguments are handled there kthxbai. "Feminazi" was a term coined by folks like Rush Limbaugh in an attempt to create a stereotype that didn't exist for the purpose of discrediting feminism in general. Wikipedia is your friend. But it is rather justified by the wild antics that many feminist preform. I mean many of them are just too damn agressive and come off as nut balls. Don't get em wrong, many men (and many VERY stupid ones like Bush) do very similar acts. But they're all equaly bonkers. and don't deserve our respect until they can act like adults and not scream and shout when they don't get their way.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:41 pm
Saoszuc Again, I direct you folks to the ******** Abortion Debate thread in ED. All your various arguments are handled there kthxbai. "Feminazi" was a term coined by folks like Rush Limbaugh in an attempt to create a stereotype that didn't exist for the purpose of discrediting feminism in general. Wikipedia is your friend.Thank-you! And yes, please take the abortion topic there. This is not an abortion thread. confused
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:44 pm
AkureiKnight Saoszuc Again, I direct you folks to the ******** Abortion Debate thread in ED. All your various arguments are handled there kthxbai. "Feminazi" was a term coined by folks like Rush Limbaugh in an attempt to create a stereotype that didn't exist for the purpose of discrediting feminism in general. Wikipedia is your friend.Thank-you! And yes, please take the abortion topic there. This is not an abortion thread. confused As you ask, i shall obey.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:50 pm
Spartan-4202 ABORTION: Baby killing. Clean and simple. it is the termination of another human life. Get over it. Terms like "Pro-choice" maight make you feel better about what you do, but it's still killing babies. Enough said on that. Feminism: A way of taking the frustations of your female ancestors and try and make it your own. Just because they suffered doesn't mean you suffer in the same ways. Get past that. Just as you want us to belive that "once the straight, white man get's the short end of the stick", as it pompously was put, think of how many time he gets screwed over. How many men have been falsey accused by women of sexual misconduct. Their lives ruined. Careers ended. Lets go to a personal exsample. My friend, Randy, his father was accused of sexual assault in 1998. Convicted, court marshalled from the Air Force, and sentenced for 4 years in prison. After being poroled (on the 3rd year) he went back home, (as a registered sex offender) and tried to push his life back together. What happened. She came out late last year to admit that she lied. Why? To get back at him for calling off their engagement. To this day he has yet to speak to his son. Getting the picture? The law constently take the word of females over that of men more times than the adverage femme-nazi would allow you to belive. How many men, good fathers, denied the right to see their own child grown up, simply because the mother sheds a few tears is court because he asked to see them twice a month. or because he's gay. or bacause the mother makes up any number of lies against him. So think twice twice before the first words of, "Sorry if for once the straight, white man get's the short end of the stick. " comes out. Honestly. Heart, brain, mouth. It's really works a lot better in that order. And if you bothered to notice for 2 seconds: i wasn't "bashing" feminism, i was protesting, Femme-nazism. that's all. Dismount your high horses and perhaps we can dicuss this tread for it's good, and bad points. without threats. without verbal abuse. without anger. sound good? Us dismount our high horses? I dont know who the ******** you're talking to. I dont think you EVEN read all of what I said did you? Hey, did you know that there are laws that protect men who sexually abuse their daughters? Men who cause crimes get convicted so many years and then in about 2 years they're free. If a woman commits the same crime, she's sentenced for life, the end. And I hope you know that it's not just women who slander when it comes to custody cases or anything in general. Men are just as bad. I dont know how you're getting the balls to attack this thread when you CLEARLY know nothing about feminism and you're going to be so closed minded as to think that EVERY feminist is some ******** nazi. That's really disrespectful for one, Im very much feminist, two I am (and feminists in general) or nothing close to being nazis. So if you would stop being a rude a*****e. I'll be glad to discuss the good and the bad things. Not a problem with me but READ what I ******** say, respond respectfully and intellegently, and stop calling us nazis because I know you wouldn't like it very much if I acted as if all Christians are bad and called them nazis.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:56 pm
Spartan-4202 Saoszuc Again, I direct you folks to the ******** Abortion Debate thread in ED. All your various arguments are handled there kthxbai. "Feminazi" was a term coined by folks like Rush Limbaugh in an attempt to create a stereotype that didn't exist for the purpose of discrediting feminism in general. Wikipedia is your friend. But it is rather justified by the wild antics that many feminist preform. I mean many of them are just too damn agressive and come off as nut balls. Don't get em wrong, many men (and many VERY stupid ones like Bush) do very similar acts. But they're all equaly bonkers. and don't deserve our respect until they can act like adults and not scream and shout when they don't get their way. Thing is.. we've been told to be quiet for so long.. I think it's time we're heard to be honest. Women still have a long way to go, and if you were open minded enough and actually took one of these classes you would see that. Like I've said, yes things are better... but still it's a long road ahead. Plus, there is more to feminism, if you had read what I said you'd know that.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:16 am
I guess my main thing is: Femininsim as a whole idea is alright, but like many others things (religion, war, politics etc) can be pushed on others too much. and some time just needs to wait if it wants to see big changes.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:25 pm
It's not as if we dont know that. We're not shoving anything down anyone's throat. My teacher on the first day of class said that this class wasn't designed to change anyone's beliefs, it was here to inform. All this thread was for was to inform, not challange anyone's beliefs or shove anything down anyone's throat. Yes, there are most likely feminists who are way too worked up about this than they need to be. But most feminists just want to teach minorities, especially women that they need to get involved with their community and shaping their country in general. Bringing awareness is all it's about.
And if it makes you feel better, not all feminists are pro-choice. There are many feminists who are pro-life. We're all humans and we all have different beliefs. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:21 pm
Spartan-4202 I guess my main thing is: Femininsim as a whole idea is alright, but like many others things (religion, war, politics etc) can be pushed on others too much. and some time just needs to wait if it wants to see big changes. "Yeah, I mean, you and I both know that them black folks is almost as good as white folks... but lettin' them vote? I dunno. That's rockin' the boat. Give it a few years." rolleyes Social discomfort is not an excuse for discrimination, unwarranted namecalling, or unprovoked attacks. Let's not forget that we're also dealing with two definitions of "feminism" here. There's the one you're thinking of: Quote: The recognition and reparation of social, political, and economic disparity based on and related to sex and gender. which is actually covered under equal rights; and then there's: Quote: The historical discipline which seeks to form a "whole picture" view of history, rather than one focusing on rich, white, land-owning men. This latter is the original "feminism", so named because its proponents were viewed as sissies. The proponents themselves adopted this derisive moniker, stating that a holistic view is more inherent to the female worldview than the male (in part, they're correct, due to brain structure differences between the sexes... but that's another topic). Note that neither one has anything to do with anything you might take issue with.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:08 am
AkureiKnight It's not as if we dont know that. We're not shoving anything down anyone's throat. My teacher on the first day of class said that this class wasn't designed to change anyone's beliefs, it was here to inform. All this thread was for was to inform, not challange anyone's beliefs or shove anything down anyone's throat. Yes, there are most likely feminists who are way too worked up about this than they need to be. But most feminists just want to teach minorities, especially women that they need to get involved with their community and shaping their country in general. Bringing awareness is all it's about. And if it makes you feel better, not all feminists are pro-choice. There are many feminists who are pro-life. We're all humans and we all have different beliefs. 3nodding I see what you mean, and i guess we're both kinda shooting for the same thing here: Getting people to relize that defeat is only in their minds, and that they have to get off of their asses to stuff done. No divine being is going come make the world instantly better by just breaking wind on the earth. We all need to stand up for the social changes that we wanna see take place.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:52 pm
Spartan-4202 AkureiKnight It's not as if we dont know that. We're not shoving anything down anyone's throat. My teacher on the first day of class said that this class wasn't designed to change anyone's beliefs, it was here to inform. All this thread was for was to inform, not challange anyone's beliefs or shove anything down anyone's throat. Yes, there are most likely feminists who are way too worked up about this than they need to be. But most feminists just want to teach minorities, especially women that they need to get involved with their community and shaping their country in general. Bringing awareness is all it's about. And if it makes you feel better, not all feminists are pro-choice. There are many feminists who are pro-life. We're all humans and we all have different beliefs. 3nodding I see what you mean, and i guess we're both kinda shooting for the same thing here: Getting people to relize that defeat is only in their minds, and that they have to get off of their asses to stuff done. No divine being is going come make the world instantly better by just breaking wind on the earth. We all need to stand up for the social changes that we wanna see take place. Yeah! blaugh Im glad you understand! biggrin
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:43 am
AkureiKnight Spartan-4202 AkureiKnight It's not as if we dont know that. We're not shoving anything down anyone's throat. My teacher on the first day of class said that this class wasn't designed to change anyone's beliefs, it was here to inform. All this thread was for was to inform, not challange anyone's beliefs or shove anything down anyone's throat. Yes, there are most likely feminists who are way too worked up about this than they need to be. But most feminists just want to teach minorities, especially women that they need to get involved with their community and shaping their country in general. Bringing awareness is all it's about. And if it makes you feel better, not all feminists are pro-choice. There are many feminists who are pro-life. We're all humans and we all have different beliefs. 3nodding I see what you mean, and i guess we're both kinda shooting for the same thing here: Getting people to relize that defeat is only in their minds, and that they have to get off of their asses to stuff done. No divine being is going come make the world instantly better by just breaking wind on the earth. We all need to stand up for the social changes that we wanna see take place. Yeah! blaugh Im glad you understand! biggrin yeah hey, i can't seem to find my thread, did it get moved?
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:43 pm
Which thread? If it was I didn't move it
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:24 am
AkureiKnight Which thread? If it was I didn't move it It was about religion. Title was "Cathoilc Questions?"
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:35 am
Spartan-4202 AkureiKnight Which thread? If it was I didn't move it It was about religion. Title was "Cathoilc Questions?" Deleted because it was majorly off topic. Plus I've been thinking about cracking down in the off topic thread.
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