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PhantomoftheFox

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:20 pm


He is in Kay...

Myep. Romeo et Juliette, act one, scene... ten? I think ten. Anyway, it's the Jeux Veux Vivre aria.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:58 pm


Utakan
Didn't Webber even write "Love Changes Everything" for Phantom only to use it in another musical (the name escapes me) later?

It's a common thing amongst artists of the sort. You come up with ideas and if in the end they don't fit that particular "project", you save them abd use them in another.
I think "Love Changes Everything" is from "Aspects of Love"

Glinda_of_Oz


Elanchana

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:37 pm


Glinda_of_Oz
Utakan
Didn't Webber even write "Love Changes Everything" for Phantom only to use it in another musical (the name escapes me) later?

It's a common thing amongst artists of the sort. You come up with ideas and if in the end they don't fit that particular "project", you save them abd use them in another.
I think "Love Changes Everything" is from "Aspects of Love"

Yep.
In the EAB choir, when I heard we were doing Love Changes Everything, I just wanted to say "OMG THAT SONG WAS ORIGINALLY IN PHANTOM!!!"

It made me want to see Aspects of Love.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:48 am


You want to hear something even more jaw-dropping?

Webber recycled the music for MUSIC OF THE NIGHT. eek

Yeah, I had to look twice too before that sank in. Apparently, the original version of 'Aspects of Love' was in the works in 1983 and Trevor Nunn wrote the lyrics. He found out later on that Andrew Lloyd-Webber recycled the tunes for Phantom! burning_eyes

Jusy


PhantomoftheFox

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:28 pm


I think All I Ask of You was started for what would become Aspects of Love. But like I said, it's common for composers to write a tune, decide it doesn't fit, shelve it and put it in another show.

And actually, Music of the Night was first a sort of solo love song for Sarah Brightman called 'Married Man'. Let the irony of that sink in a moment. (Hint: Sarah started dating Webber when he was still married to his first wife.)

Then he tried to work it in to Aspects of Love, THEN he rewrote the lyrics and tried to put it in POTO as another song for Christine, until someone told him that it was stupid for the Phantom not to have a single solo and it was tweaked to what we have now.

Although some people have said that the main tune to MOTN is actually note-for-note the same as an aria from La fanciulla del West (one of Puccini's lesser-known operas), just slowed down. I haven't heard it, so I don't know.

And while I'm here, there was also an allegation in the early 90's that the tune to the title song was actually stolen from an amateur composer. There was a lawsuit, but I don't know what became of it.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:41 pm


"Married Man"

You're right! I remember reading that somewhere. He changed it to avoid all the (obvious) media attention he would get from such a title.

And the irony sinks in...

Jusy


Elanchana

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:09 pm


Heard part of it on an interview thing.

Sarah: *to the tune of MotN* You said no, it was over, but you LIIIIIIIED!!!
Me: WTH--?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:44 pm


Elanchana
Heard part of it on an interview thing.

Sarah: *to the tune of MotN* You said no, it was over, but you LIIIIIIIED!!!
Me: WTH--?


o_O The beauty of Music of the Night is that it has such a wide range of emotion that it can convey hope or despair (have you heard John Cudia's MOTN!?!) or desire or passion... but angry, ranty lover emotions sure as hell doesn't fit THAT list.

Would be interesting to know the entire song, eh? Just out of bloody curiosity. xd

Jusy


Elanchana

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:48 pm


Jusy
Elanchana
Heard part of it on an interview thing.

Sarah: *to the tune of MotN* You said no, it was over, but you LIIIIIIIED!!!
Me: WTH--?


o_O The beauty of Music of the Night is that it has such a wide range of emotion that it can convey hope or despair (have you heard John Cudia's MOTN!?!) or desire or passion... but angry, ranty lover emotions sure as hell doesn't fit THAT list.

Would be interesting to know the entire song, eh? Just out of bloody curiosity. xd

Oh yeah. Then we could bash Sarah over the head with it. XD Just kidding. But you're right. Those words just DON'T FIT.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:33 pm


I have found something!

Lyrics to what I believe is the first verse of Married Man:

Time was golden, I felt like I was falling
Waiting, smiling, praying you'd be calling
Nothing lies above me , knowing that you love me
I woke up beside you once and said
I'll never have to fall in love again

Married man you were happy and you let me know
Always ran up the stairs to reach my door
But I cried every time you had to go
Should have said don't come here any more

And Sarah singing it: http://www.tiretracks.co.uk/drawer/the-music-of-the-night.ram

Okay, people, time to bash Sarah and Andrew over the head!

Elanchana


PhantomoftheFox

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:22 pm


Eh, mediocre lyrics. If the regular MOTN music was reorchestrated and a few of the strings cut, I could see it, though.

Yeah, the whole Sarah/Andrew affair has always cracked me up. They met when she was auditioning for the chorus in Cats and whaddaya know, she got the biggest kitten role. Not a few months later Webber divorces his wife (the one who had married him before he was famous) and he and Sarah are married within three weeks.
Of course, the funnier bit is that he did the exact same thing to her five years later... Webber and Sarah announced their divorce for 'personal reasons' in '91, and the very next day he made public his engagment to some aspiring singer.

xD Gads, Webber's such a horn dog.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:26 am


"Married man you were happy and you let me know"

burning_eyes burning_eyes burning_eyes

Oh boy. The first bit seemed pretty good, then it went downhill from there. Who the heck calls their lover "Married man" anyway?!? Seriously. *sigh*

Jusy


Elanchana

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:36 pm


I just discovered that The Heart is Slow to Learn was also recycled! Or so I think. From "Our Kind of Love" in The Beautiful Game.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:21 pm


Other way around. xD The Heart is Slow to Learn was changed into Our Kind of Love when Phantom of Manhatten the Musical was scrapped.

Thank God.

PhantomoftheFox


Elanchana

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:24 pm


Oh, it was? *puts on best fake happy voice* I didn't know that! No wonder.
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