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 Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:13 pm
reagun ban Kuroiban Yes. Haven't claimed otherwise. True, however, I find it a tad innappropriate for gaijin to comment on Japanese cultural groups in exactly the same way it irritates the hell out of me when non-Celts do it with the Celts. I'm argueing that if, when pulling from and utilizing Bushido as a frame work for morale guidence in certain areas, ritualstic sucide might not be suitable or even need. The culture I live in is quite different from fudel Japan, and nothing everything can make a sensiable transition. That was what I was talking about. What I DIDN'T say was that the practice was completely rediculous in the social, philosophical, and theological manor, even when taking into account the society and time period that spawned it. I didn't make a statement on the entirity of culture and history of Japan. Further, considering the practice of ritualistic self slaughter was illegalized not once but twice, I think declaring it "uneeded" isn't nesscerily out of place. I can understand where you are coming from; a read a thread in here (don't remember which one) where you explained away some of the myths of Druidism and such, and were told off by someone who knows absolutely nothing about your culture. I can see how that would cause a sore spot. However, my comment had nothing to do with me rewriting and recalibrating Japanese culture to fit into my little box.
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:51 pm
Nuri reagun ban Kuroiban Yes. Haven't claimed otherwise. True, however, I find it a tad innappropriate for gaijin to comment on Japanese cultural groups in exactly the same way it irritates the hell out of me when non-Celts do it with the Celts. In that case, why do we have sociologists and anthropologists? I think it is fair to say that the context of gaijin and the "non-Celts" is what is at issue. Educated observations and dedication to study is not the same as passing interest that targets something that has lost cultural context.
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:52 pm
TeaDidikai Nuri reagun ban Kuroiban Yes. Haven't claimed otherwise. True, however, I find it a tad innappropriate for gaijin to comment on Japanese cultural groups in exactly the same way it irritates the hell out of me when non-Celts do it with the Celts. In that case, why do we have sociologists and anthropologists? I think it is fair to say that the context of gaijin and the "non-Celts" is what is at issue. Educated observations and dedication to study is not the same as passing interest that targets something that has lost cultural context. I know, but the way he said it begged for the smart alec response.
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:28 am
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:36 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:47 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:26 pm
eek
I concede the point as a whole; I had not thought to look at things from that light previously, and I thank you for the enlightenment in this respect.
Well then let me ask you this then; if I'm trying to draw together some sort of ethical code together, is it wrong to pull from this, er, "Non-Bushido"? At least in your opinion?
If it is, what do you suggest I do for this goal of mine?
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:50 pm
Heck no, I don't think it's bad.
Draw enlightenment from where you can within the bounds of ethical behavior.
I don't care if you find your code of conduct in a can of spegetti-os.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:58 pm
TeaDidikai Heck no, I don't think it's bad. Draw enlightenment from where you can within the bounds of ethical behavior. I don't care if you find your code of conduct in a can of spegetti-os. I TOTALLY want to see someone do that.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:01 pm
Kuroiban TeaDidikai Heck no, I don't think it's bad. Draw enlightenment from where you can within the bounds of ethical behavior. I don't care if you find your code of conduct in a can of spegetti-os. I TOTALLY want to see someone do that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:50 pm
TeaDidikai Kuroiban TeaDidikai Heck no, I don't think it's bad. Draw enlightenment from where you can within the bounds of ethical behavior. I don't care if you find your code of conduct in a can of spegetti-os. I TOTALLY want to see someone do that. I think I'm in pain... I'm not sure if that was funny or frightening. Probably both.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:46 pm
Kuroiban I think I'm in pain... I'm not sure if that was funny or frightening. Probably both. Say that a little louder. The Irish head of the Pastafarian Church would love to speak with you, I'm sure.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:57 pm
TeaDidikai Kuroiban I think I'm in pain... I'm not sure if that was funny or frightening. Probably both. Say that a little louder. The Irish head of the Pastafarian Church would love to speak with you, I'm sure. Considering the browbeating I avoided giving him for the "Bushido 2" comment, I think you can all imagine what's going to happen if he doesn't apologise for that.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:47 am
This may be fodder for another thread all together, but it all just looks like a whole lot of satire in realtionship to the whole intelligent design crap that happened.
Or have I missed something?
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:00 am
Kuroiban This may be fodder for another thread all together, but it all just looks like a whole lot of satire in realtionship to the whole intelligent design crap that happened. Or have I missed something? It is far more than that. It is a demonstration of how bad America has become. In order to prevent a State passing a law that violates constitutional equality, a religion had to be set up with "scientific proof" that their creation myth was as valid as "Intelligent design". Having done so, it is now gathering believers as a means to protect that constituional equality. It is far more dangerous than mere satire. It is a cause. Looking at it from a Celtic Recon point of view, we Pastafarians and members of the Church of FSM, hallowed be His Noodly Appendages, are members of a Bardic Priesthood using Satire as our medium and heralding the cause of Equality.
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