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Not to be a b*****d, Bob, but the Sephiroths we follow througout the game are just chunks of Jenova that shapeshift into Sephiroth, as he is the one controlling the thing. The clones are just carriers of the cells. No mutagenic capabilities present.

Sadly not possible. Sephiroth was isolated in Materia at the center of the Northern Crater throughout the entire game. Only at the end, after being released thanks to Clouds meddling and the blasts from the Sister Ray, he is able to move around and he only goes into the center of the planet to stop Holy. So it cant be Sephiroth walking around on the surface.

But if the clones have mutagenic properties given through the Jenova cells and the Sephiroth DNA, why doesnt Cloud look like Sephiroth? Or Zack? Or any of the SOLDIER First Class' you fight inside of Midgar? They wouldve all been Sephiroths.

The way I look at it is, when Jenova busts out, a single chunk of it detatches, and morphs into Sephiroth by way of his control. This piece then proceeds to carry the rest of itself around the world, and is able to detatch pieces of the whole to fight our heroes party. Thats why whenever we fight Sephiroth, we fight a large chunk of Jenova, not just some little thing attained through an injection. Also, if the cloning worked like that, why didnt any of the cloaked figures in Nibelham or anywhere else attack Cloud? They wouldve been tapped and transformed.

Just my thoughts on it.

You just countered your own argument. Cloud and Zax escaped before phase 3, they had the Mako, the JENOVA, but no DNA. The other SOLDIERS just had phase one, Mako shower, hence "Mako eyes". Furthermore, when Sephiroth appears, it's a clone, when JENOVA appears, it is a piece of JENOVA, whose true form has been regenerating in the North Cave. JENOVA can regenerate, so if a part is removed, a lesser JENOVA is born, thus BIRTH, LIFE, and DEATH. SYNTHESIS is JENOVA fully recovered, or recovered to an extent. Her true form is thet which is seen when Sephiroth removes the head. JENOVA can control any being containing her cells, not vice versa. Sephiroth cannot control JENOVA, but she can control him, the clones, Cloud, and, theoretically, Zack. When "Sephiroth" controls him at Ajit (Ancient City), it is a clone who killed Aeris, but JENOVA, or the part of her that the clone is carrying (JENOVA LIFE) who controls Cloud. Believe me now?

i agree with you it make sence

But hes contained within the Materia. The Sephiroth we see during the events of the game, ie: Killing Aeris, on the Ship from Junon, etc., are only Jenova cells being controlled by Sephiroth's will using Jenovas mutagenic powers from the Northern Crater. Or, if you view it the way Bob does, which also makes sense to me kindof, theyre Sephiroth clones that went through the complete cloning process, with the Mako and the Jenova and the Sephiroth DNA. Quite simply, it isnt Sephiroth through the whole game. Plus, if you remember from what Sephiroth said to Zack and Cloud from the flashback at Kalm, it takes years for materia to form and to have a large mass of it around his body like that, itd take a long time to form. He has been there since casting himself into the Lifestream during the Nibelham Incident.

but what's to say it wasn't already there, and osmosed into it. cloud easily reach through it, why couldn't sepiroth have done the same?

well this is an interesting conversation and I don't know who to side with at least we all agree it never is the true Seph since he's in the center