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Ziggurat the Eighth

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:22 pm


What I want to know is, who is Cardinal Heinlein ("head of the Hyams outfit... one of the cardinals of the Immigrant Fleet")? And what exactly is the Chief Inquisitor(Margulis)'s role in the Fleet?



((I just saw that Virgil and Allen are voiced by the same guy. THAT is scary. Awesome actor whee ))
PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:50 pm


I wish to know those things, too. o_O

And I also found it interesting that there's a sci-fi author with the last name Heinlein. That's the only thing that popped into my head when I first heard about the Cardinal and all that goodness from Jin. o.o


Beh... My useless ramble ends here.

Milleia

Enduring Evader


Ziggurat the Eighth

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:05 pm


First thing that came into my head was Hohenheim of Light, or whatever Edo's (fma) father is called >>;

The Patriarch also mentions Heinlein. He's apparently the guy who manipulated the federation into attacking second militia, and Margulis's boss.

I'm wondering if he knows about Wilhelm... Seeing as he's the one recieving the funding from Vector for the UTIC organisation.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:42 am


Q: How come both Gaignun and Albedo "grew up" but Jr. still looks like a little boy?
A: I dunno. Gaignun does mention that he's younger than Jr. though. Mary and Shelly also say that it's a shame "Little Master" has to stay in his size.

I'm not 100% sure about this but...
One of Jr.'s powers is to control growth...or time...or...um...something to that effect, but I think as a side effect, he has to stay at that size/age.
I'm thinking that he has opposite powers of Albedo. Albedo has regeneration and Jr. has the power to stunt growth maybe?

XShadowMistressX


Memory of the Sky

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:18 pm


Yeah as I said before, alot of the FAQ is a bit inaccurate due to the release of Xenosaga II and this guy's own stupidity, but it's pretty interesting for some parts.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:39 pm


XShadowMistressX
Q: How come both Gaignun and Albedo "grew up" but Jr. still looks like a little boy?
A: I dunno. Gaignun does mention that he's younger than Jr. though. Mary and Shelly also say that it's a shame "Little Master" has to stay in his size.

I'm not 100% sure about this but...
One of Jr.'s powers is to control growth...or time...or...um...something to that effect, but I think as a side effect, he has to stay at that size/age.
I'm thinking that he has opposite powers of Albedo. Albedo has regeneration and Jr. has the power to stunt growth maybe?


This hasn't been directly addressed in the game yet, though from a few scenes in epsiode 1 we're given the impression that Jr. is not so young looking of his own volition. The XS anime has given some insight on the subject (though it's still fairly unclear in my oppinion) though I doubt anyone would concider the XS anime cannon. In the anime Jr. basically says that he stopped time for himself 14 years ago as pennance for what he did to the other URTV, the line isn't quite that clear (it differs enough between fansub groups that I can't come up with an accurate version, I believe it's meant to be ambigious -- and just for refference, it's mentioned in episodes 8&9 of the anime) because he also mentions something about using a lot of his streanght to save himself from U-DO.

The running theory in most fan communities is that Jr., for whatever reason, expended too much energy during the Miltian Conflict, and thus stunted his growth. But as I mentioned earlier, the game hasn't touched on this topic directly yet.

shojokakumeii00
Captain


Memory of the Sky

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:13 pm


Here's a thought then, since Jr. is around 24, (right? I don't remember the ages of the three U.R.T.V.) Wouldn't MOMO be 24 years old too? Because Sakura did say that Dr. Mizrahi was creating MOMO for her, and she(MOMO) was going to be born soon. So....

Time is stopped for both Jr. and MOMO? o.O;;; No...wait....omg crap(excusi)
I'm confusing myself. MOMO is probably in her 20's, or close to there.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:32 pm


Ziggurat the Eighth
Quote:
Margulis

Q: Who is the man with the shades that Margulis talks to?
A: He's most likely a U.R.T.V., one that survived the purge. This reminds me of the whole Solidus fiasco from Metal Gear Solid. It's also possible that the man is Gaignun all along, although I can't back it up. After all, everyone in the story has a complicated past with lots of deceit and betrayal. Gaignun should be no exception.


That is wrong.
He is too elderly to be one of the UTRVs, and if he was one, he'd look like a blonde version of Gaignun/Albedo. I believe his name is Sellers

Quote:
Q: Are U.R.T.V.s supposed to be clones of Mizrahi?
A: This rumor comes from the mysterious conversation between Margulis and a man with shades about Albedo. The mysterious man states, "I do not like him. His eyes share the same look as Mizrahi's." Margulis responds: "The same as yours?" This means that man in shades is also a U.R.T.V. The comment that their eyes resemble Mizrahi's may be referring to the U.R.T.V.s physically resembling his. Or he meant that Albedo is a maniac, just like Mizrahi. The latter is unlikely because this would imply that since the man with shades shares the same eyes, he is also a maniac.


They are not clones of Mizrahi.
The URTV's were made using the dna of a man called Dimitri Yuriev. But they were more like sons, than clones.





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Now for my slightly farfetched theory: SELLERS IS MIZRAHI! Fully crippled due to the fall. And then we have
Quote:
The mysterious man (he means Sellers) states, "I do not like him. His eyes share the same look as Mizrahi's." Margulis responds: "The same as yours?"

And they look (vaguely) similar.



Note: I'm 100% sure they aren't the same person. I'm just being wacky >_>
Although I'd be very happy if anyone knew where I could get a cg picture of Joachim. I can only find the art-version.


(gasp) where did you get the disgaia sig!!! can you make me one?!?!?! i will be happy to pay you!!!

brother_captain_derek


shojokakumeii00
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:23 pm


Lacrimosa Ephemerality
Here's a thought then, since Jr. is around 24, (right? I don't remember the ages of the three U.R.T.V.) Wouldn't MOMO be 24 years old too? Because Sakura did say that Dr. Mizrahi was creating MOMO for her, and she(MOMO) was going to be born soon. So....

Time is stopped for both Jr. and MOMO? o.O;;; No...wait....omg crap(excusi)
I'm confusing myself. MOMO is probably in her 20's, or close to there.


I've been wondering that myself. What the biggest issue is when exactly was MOMO "born." It had to be after Mizrahi died (so during or after the Miltian Conflict), because I believe she mentions that he died before she was born. Theoretically she could have just been recently activated, but that begs the question of when, who, how, and why. The same goes for if she had been activated during or shortly after the conflict, where was she during those 14 years -- I highly doubt she was with Juli (just because of Juli's aversion to her and that in ep2 Juli decides to finally let MOMO live with her -- the way it's presented makes it look like they haven't lived together before, at least not for very long), and it seems unlikely that U-TIC had her for any great length of time (probably less than a month, if that).

fumitsuki - Please keep your posts relivant to the topic, make another and I'll delete it -- if you have specific questions for other users, unrelated to the topic of discussion, please make use of the PM system.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:30 am


Hmm interesting ill have to think about MOMO for a bit.

Memory of the Sky


Sweet Lolita-hime

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:42 pm


This may be already asked/awnswered but...............
DOES/WILL JR AND MOMO HOOK UP
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:26 pm


Maybe, maybe not...

Akzil

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