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stay on topic people!!!!! what do black holes have to do with the moon?


isn't anyone excited that we're going into space again? and more aggressively? I know I am.

They're planning to use a two stage rocket developed by a private company, which is similar to the rocket that the Russians are using. Basically it shoots off, then once it reaches the atmosphere, it shoots off again. So they wont be using the space shuttle.

thank you.

But yeah my sentiments are. Get our **** boys in the air first. we can't get to the moon without getting us in the air. Strap my butt to that unstable H-bomb i don't care how I get me to space i'm more than happy to go. If i die i died while advancing the human race. In my opening speech of my senior project i had the judges imagine they were future space turists that had a bad accident and they all blew up as they lifted off. I also said they served their species well. there will be disasters, people will die, it will cost more money than some are willing to think of paying, but in the wise words of Professor Hawking "go to space or die."

oh yes i suggest the new moon vehicle as a Leo. ^.^ don't argue about it twisted I will defend my Leos to my death.

The moon is a waste of time and money. Its also dangerous with minimal payoff. Asteroid mining is the most economical route to space. The break down:

Just one of over 200 KNOWN Near earth Objects contains enough metallic ores to match all that has been pulled out of earth throughout ALL of human history. Thats copper, iron, gold, uranium, and such

There is enough water in an asteroid (cause thay are likely commit cores) to raise a whole pod of whales. WHALES. Let alone your GM soybeans

The moon is at the bottom of a gravity well. Which is inherently dangerous to get through. Asteriod's fields are so minimal it poses no inherent safty risks.

If you completely harvest an asteroid and leave only the junkie silicates behind, you have roughly the composition of the surface of the moon.

The one thing the moon does offer is Helium 3 atoms. These have been proposed as a fuel for fusion reactors, but I don't feel warrent an utter comitment to the moon.

But the moon is very pretty, and may be reason enough to live there. But living in artificial gravity may be better for the ol' bones.

Uh, we were a more ambitious people back then. NASA took a crap-load of risk at that time compared to nowadays where if a tile falls off of a shuttle, everyone freaks and they stop all projects. Whereas the moon missions had incidents such as the Apollo 8 fire and the famed Apollo 13 mission, neither of which kept us from going back to the moon.

If you are going to say that we in fact did NOT go to the moon at all, how do you account for the Saturn V rocket launches that thousands watched in person and millions of people watched on television all around the world? It's undeniable that they launched them so if not to truely go to the moon, then why did they spend the billions of dollars to send those collosal vessels into space?!

Denying the successes of the Apollo missions is absurd. We need to appreciate the incredible feats we accomplish instead of just criticizing them... "we" being a generation of young people that didn't even EXIST at that time. Who are we to say such things?