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Abortion is mean !!!!!!!!!!!! :( |
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:30 pm
rockmanx Lithanus Another thing to think about, is who might the child become if you allow them to live. Some great people were born into some difficult situations that some people today might abort. If one aborts a child, they will never know what kind of person they would have turned out to be; who knows, the child that they carry might be a great person some day. A "What if " is not reallhy a valid reason. What if the child becomes a serial killer? There are reason behind the three that our Father gives. Like under rape, the woman had no say so. You are putting something on the woman and it is very difficult for a woman to raise a child by themself, even in this day and age.
I'm sure some one says "adopt a child" but realy, how many children are getting adopted in America. It is easier to adopt a child from another country then it is to adopt one from America.
Now one reason for an adbortion I think shuld be a choice in which the husband has the say so. That is if the mother will die if she gives birth. This event does not just effect the mother but the husband as well. "What If" says that we have no idea what is to become of the life that has started in a woman's belly, and therefore we should not interrupt or destroy it. It says that we as human's should not be able to choose to kill a child when we do not even know who that child will be, unilke God who knows us before we are formed. In the case where a child's birth may kill the mother... well it never really works like that. There are always ways around it to make the mother's life secure as well as chances that even when things look fine the mother will still die... but when thats a danger its usually to late for a 'traditional abortion' anyways. I dont think there is any way someone can justify an abortion especially not with the processes that are used.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:01 pm
Abortion <----> Murder
I am totally against abortion. (not trying to advertise, but) I'm a member of the pro-life guild, as you can see. I encourage anyone who is for abortion to go to that guild's page and see all the reasons why abortion is wrong. Either that, or you could pm me and I'll get that information to you.
Would you say murder is wrong? How can someone say abortion isn't if they think murder is?
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:09 am
ok im not a member of you guild but i just have one question for this paticular thread!
what if the mother was going to die if they did not abort the baby? as in they knew for shure there was no way they could save the mother? now say that same mother allready has 2 kid's at home? how do you think the baby would feel know there mother had been sacrificed for him/her and that becuze of him/her they would never see there mother again?
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:14 am
demon_whore ok im not a member of you guild but i just have one question for this paticular thread! what if the mother was going to die if they did not abort the baby? as in they knew for shure there was no way they could save the mother? now say that same mother allready has 2 kid's at home? how do you think the baby would feel know there mother had been sacrificed for him/her and that becuze of him/her they would never see there mother again? oh yes and is that not murder in the revers form? insted of killing the baby your killing the mother?
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 5:27 am
demon_whore demon_whore ok im not a member of you guild but i just have one question for this paticular thread! what if the mother was going to die if they did not abort the baby? as in they knew for shure there was no way they could save the mother? now say that same mother allready has 2 kid's at home? how do you think the baby would feel know there mother had been sacrificed for him/her and that becuze of him/her they would never see there mother again? oh yes and is that not murder in the revers form? insted of killing the baby your killing the mother? It is still a dificult situation when the mother is at risk to die when pregnant. Usually the doctor can tell who is worth saveing. Often when there are complications like that it is because the baby is already dead or the mother is dying anyways. Doctors usually can make an appropriate decision that will save the most life. The only case it could be a problem is when a freak accident occurs and the mother and/or her baby dies, and even if they do die, most understand that it is not murder, but an unfortunate event, but that won't stop someone for sueing or trying to arrest the doctor on an account of murder. As for how the child would feel if the mother died, I'm sure that they would love her even if they never really met.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:49 pm
demon_whore demon_whore ok im not a member of you guild but i just have one question for this paticular thread! what if the mother was going to die if they did not abort the baby? as in they knew for shure there was no way they could save the mother? now say that same mother allready has 2 kid's at home? how do you think the baby would feel know there mother had been sacrificed for him/her and that becuze of him/her they would never see there mother again? oh yes and is that not murder in the revers form? insted of killing the baby your killing the mother? At the point where it is considered that the child's borth may kill the mother is usually way past the point where it's considered "abortion" because the baby would already be grown inside the mother.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:23 pm
well just so you all know it was illeagel a long time ago and victioms of rape who could not deal with rasing a child caused by that rape actuly killed them self's and the baby jusy so they would not have to deal with it!
also some young mother who did not want there familys to find out about the pregnetcy would go to unlincened doctors to get the baby aborted this lead to horribul infections and in menny cases death to the mother!
some mothers were so desperate to get it done they would agree to surgery in the unlincened doctors living room!
so what is worse to have it regulated where a lincened doctor can make shure the mother knows ALL her option's? or scared desperate mother's killing them self's to stop the pain they are feeling inside?
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:31 am
"For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother's womb. I will give thanks to Thee, for Thou art fearfully wonderful (later texts were changed to read "for I am fearfully and wonderfully made"); wonderful are Thy works, and my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from Thee, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance; and in Thy book they were all written, the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them."
"If men strive, and hurt a women with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life" (Ex.21:22-23).
Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even at my mother's breast. From birth I was cast upon you; from my mother's womb you have been my God (Psalm 22:9-10
Praise the lord for he is pure heart
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:49 am
demon_whore well just so you all know it was illeagel a long time ago and victioms of rape who could not deal with rasing a child caused by that rape actuly killed them self's and the baby jusy so they would not have to deal with it! also some young mother who did not want there familys to find out about the pregnetcy would go to unlincened doctors to get the baby aborted this lead to horribul infections and in menny cases death to the mother! some mothers were so desperate to get it done they would agree to surgery in the unlincened doctors living room! so what is worse to have it regulated where a lincened doctor can make shure the mother knows ALL her option's? or scared desperate mother's killing them self's to stop the pain they are feeling inside? Regardless of what is right or wrong some people will do what ever they want no matter the consequences. Those mothers were too worried about themselves to make a rational desicion and so reaped the consequences of their actions. God teaches us selflessness not selfishness. Getting pregnant by rape is a horrible thing, but one must be patient when even the most horrible things happen because God might be either testing you and/or allowing the curse of sin to take its toll. Job is the best example for such trials. God allowed the devil do horrible things because God knew Job would still worship God no matter what, and in the end Job was blessed because of it. Carrying a child as a result of rape is something I will never experience, but I can imagine that it must be very terrible. Even if such a terrible thing was to happen one can still go on living a good life with the lord. Who knows, that child she carries might end up being the best blessing she ever recieved. With God, all things are possible.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:12 am
do you know why christ could not have a human father and save us fron our sin's? it's because he had to be sin-free in order to pay for our sin's and acording to god a baby take's on the sin's of it's father... so if a woman abort's a child created in rape is she not perventing the sin of rape from spreading??? question
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:23 pm
demon_whore do you know why christ could not have a human father and save us fron our sin's? it's because he had to be sin-free in order to pay for our sin's and acording to god a baby take's on the sin's of it's father... so if a woman abort's a child created in rape is she not perventing the sin of rape from spreading??? question I understand your logic. Many people take on the habits of their father and only through Jesus can that curse be broken.
As for Abortion=Murder in a earlier post, not so. Murder is an unlawful killing and there are only three reason God gave for adobortion. Those reason are not murder, any other reason is murder.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:27 pm
demon_whore do you know why christ could not have a human father and save us fron our sin's? it's because he had to be sin-free in order to pay for our sin's and acording to god a baby take's on the sin's of it's father... so if a woman abort's a child created in rape is she not perventing the sin of rape from spreading??? question We are all born into sin just as our fathers were born into sin, this is the curse given to us since the sin of Adam and Eve. Like rockmanx stated only through Jesus Christ can sins be wiped clean. Killing a baby will not be preventing sin.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:03 pm
rockmanx As for Abortion=Murder in a earlier post, not so. Murder is an unlawful killing and there are only three reason God gave for adobortion. Those reason are not murder, any other reason is murder. what reasons do you speak of? I have never heard anything like that before? could you let me know where it comes from?
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:57 pm
I would have had an older brother but my mom had an abortion..... I dont think its right though becuase its just like murder. and I dont see why ppl would want to kill a baby that has been in them... I know I would never do that!
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:47 pm
Abortion is an odd thing, in itself. There are several factors hat one needs to consider when dealing with it.
1) How long does it take for the egg/sperm to become a fetus?
2) What are the circumstances? Is it a rape victim? Can the child or the woman survive birth?
3) If the baby isn't aborted, what next? What happens to the family?
I'm not saying that abortion is right, but I'm saying that one needs to see both sides before he can make a decision.
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