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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:34 pm


You see, things become a little confuse if you begin to mix research fields with what are essentially key aspects of physics [it would be doing a disservice to other fields if you directly associate quantum mechanics with HEP]. If you were to split physics into the various hypotheses then you have:
  • Everyday life - classical physics
  • Very small and slow moving - "classical" quantum theory
  • Very large or very fast - relativistic physics
  • Very small and very fast - relativistic quantum theory [where life gets fugly]
That kind of division would be more suited to the guild if you want to take a teaching slant.

The research fields borrow and use aspects from all parts of physics. As I see it, if you wanted to split thread topics into subforums then you would need to think about what sorts of conversation would be "general" physics and which would be specialised?

Maybe subforums for specific domains of theory would be better than the research split. I guess it does depend on whether people are more likely to discuss the theories themselves, or the situations they were posited to explain.

I'm just throwing out ideas.
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:29 pm


I think I am agreeing more and more with you. I think there should be teaching, but that shouldn't be the main point. The teaching should be done within subforums. Then I agree we should split it as you initially suggested. Now... all we need is 10,000g to make four subforums. So I guess we wait until then.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:55 pm


Well, considering that some people are posting topic in the subforums that do not really belong in such a place, may I suggest the labelling of each subforum be changed to the four crude domains of theory?

The interest seems to be more concentrated on the theories and hypotheses and not on their particular applications. It is for this reason that I think we should use the crude "theory-based" demarcation viz classical physics, quantum mechanics, relativistic physics, and the fubar world of relativistic quantum-based physics.

It's up to you guys, I think it would be more intuitive for people to post in the subforums after taking a look at the topics being raised. It's also because I forsee a lot of GTR- and RQM-based topics [in my opinion, astrosphysics and HEP respectively] and not that many about the likes of condensed matter and atomic physics.

Yet, stickies about each field may fire some interest. I suppose I am biased, I found solid-state physics and thermodynamcs dreadfully boring and would not dream of starting topics there.

So, administrative people, what say you?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:03 pm


I say that we have a Basic Physics sub-forum, since I am oviously way out of my depth here...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:29 pm


yoyoman1_7
I say that we have a Basic Physics sub-forum, since I am oviously way out of my depth here...


This is exactly what we do not want to do, we do not want to alienate people. I shall have to think about it and come back with a solution. Give me a couple of hours.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:45 pm


Clearly your opinions are important to me, so I have a question to ask you: is there no inbetween we can strike? There are various areas to cover including things I felt were being omitted in the first place, like basic mechanics and materials. Hwr, I don't know if we can just go into the theoretical/teaching mode. I mean people don't want to think of the PHysics Guild as the Physics Classroom, it's not just that, it's a forum right -- so people should be able to discuss ideas they have.

My other issue is that a relativity forum, and especially a relativistic quantum forum will not generate enough discussion topics. I definitely think we should have a High Energy/Quantum subforum, the topics we have there now fit very nicely.

What about a Structures, Mechanics, and Materials subforum?

As a matter of fact, I think all we need is three subforums. I believe Relativity can fall under Astrophysics, thinking how the questions and discussions people will want to have including GTR and ST will relate to black holes, wormholes, and higher dimensions, which I believe people associate with the Astro. So my idea is

Structures, Mechanics, and Materials
High Energy and Quantum
Astrophysics and Cosmology


what dost thou think?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:11 pm


You say that relativity and an RQM forum would not generate enough discussion but a lot of astrophysics falls into GTR [and thermodynamics] while RQM includes the current Standard Model, its various sub-theories, phenomenology, and, of course, its current particle content; and deeper approaches such as string theory, most ToEs seem to attack the problem [rightly or wrongly] from an QM perspective.

That said, you have combined quantum mechanics with the relativistic version in your new grouping: RQM is QM with a sprinking of STR so I see no problem there. Nor is there any problem with combining astrophysics with cosmology. That gives you GTR, thermodynamic, and atomic/molecular [in the guise of stellar spectroscopy] content.

I think the new grouping is fine: I wonder if it would be useful to stress a section where everyday physical theories, like classic electromagnetisim and Newtonian mechanics, are the subject matter. I believe that is the "Structures, Mechanics, and Materials" forum; perhaps a section for structures and materials, with a separate area for day-to-day physics? Maybe I was a little zealous in saying that the domain-based splitting was a "teaching" approach. It is probably the easier to appreciate for those not at the research level. ^_^;;;
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:17 pm


I like these new subforums the best.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:49 pm


I suggest the following subforum scheme:

Quantum and Theoretical Physics (from High Energy and Quantum Physics)

Applied Physics

Astrophysics and Cosmology

Mechanics and Dynamics - This would cover Classical Mechanics, Thermodynamics, and Electromagnetism
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:14 pm


Cynthia_Rosenweiss
I suggest the following subforum scheme:

Quantum and Theoretical Physics (from High Energy and Quantum Physics)

Applied Physics

Astrophysics and Cosmology

Mechanics and Dynamics - This would cover Classical Mechanics, Thermodynamics, and Electromagnetism


If this was the scheme, It would be very closely related to what we have now, except that we'd have a space for Technology, I assume that is what you mean by "Applied PHysics". Isn't it best then to call it "Engieneering" or "Technology" or would that just be stupid?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:07 pm


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:44 pm


Endert
hey ill donate no matter what but i need to know where i would put something about pressure that pvc pipe could take or somehting like that?


that would definitely go under Structures, Mechanics, and Materials.

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Endert

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:44 am


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:17 pm


Endert
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I don't know what you're so thankful about, and thanks for the donation!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:35 pm


ALRIGHTY SO ---- I was thinking, let's make the fourth subforum a HANGOUT. what do you think? so we can have all the jokes, nerd stories, and anything which we can all relate to as persons with interests in math and physics.
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