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 Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:18 pm
Neisan-kun_Kamui Only so many people know wherer to get art supplies that are just awesome for american artist. Well, here is a list of some of the things that most people (especially beginners) need to know about: You can get all of these supplies from one type of brand: Deleter Which is the main brand that KNOCK (my manga-ka group) uses. You can see some of my random artwork using these supplies at: http://www.jonetsuitamashii.deviantart.comManga Paper: For Proffesional/Commercial Publishing use Size B4 For Doujinshi use A4 or B5 For Color Illustrations, Kent Paper seems to be the best Pen Nibs: For fine lines: Maru (great for small details such as hands and hair. I use this nib for most of my work, but they are much more expensive) For even lines: Saji (I use these for illustrations, but you can use these with pressure if you want uneven and smooth lines) For thick lines: G-Nib (great for action scenes and manga realism) Pencils: I use Zebra mechanical pencils, but for large drawings, use standard pencils (maybe F, HB, or 2B) Ink: I use Sumi (indian ink) But there is a large variety of inks. For color illustrations, make sure that you use water proof and non-water solluable (if that is spelled right xD) Screentone: There is a LARGE amount of different types of tone you can use. But if you want to save your money... use digital tones. I use Deleter ComicWorks. There are also many different brands, but that all comes from experience. Coloring: I just started using Prismacolor pencils, but pencils are harder to use than markers. But if you are going to use pencils, make sure that you add LIGHT layers, for that can be a hassle to erase. And blend every now and then. With markers, they are softer, and tend to be expensive, but DON'T get Prismacolor makers. You may be better off with Neopiko or Copic. I am trying to get some Neopiko markers, but McDonalds doesn't pay too much xD;!! Well, this is just BASIC, so I hope this helps the inspired artist in you! I am getting art supply items for drawing manga and anime this weekend. What should i get? *Scratches head*
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:27 pm
DarkishStar arrow Manga Art Supplies: Personally, I don't use that many professional manga art supplies. At least not in terms of paper. I personally don't think I need manga paper, which is probably overpriced anyways. I use cardstock for marker art, I've bought a pack of 70 at Target for like.. 3 bucks or something. Printer paper for linearts I plan on CG-ing, and the good old sketch book for other works and practice. If I want to get pricey, I like using bristol board for marker work. It's not cheap like card stock, but it's nice and thick and smooth. If you plan on publishing though, manga paper is the way to go because of the sizes. I'm more of an illustrator.
arrow Deleter and Copic: I actually don't like Deleter for markers and pens. I like Copic the best. The copic papers are actually really good as well. I also prefer the Copic multiliners and technical pens the best. The new refill aluminum casing is a dream. I can't live without those. Even though the initial cost of the pen is 6.50, the refills are only 2.50, and in the long run, without having to replace the pens for 4.50 everytime like I used to is a lot cheaper. The different color inks are also fun to make different color linearts with. You can get different effects with the overall artwork depending on the color of the lineart.
But you're right about the nibs, I hear the maru nibs are really good. I don't ink with india ink or other inks, so I can't speak from experience.
From experience though, I have to say the Copic markers are better if you're going to decide between Neopiko and Copics. Neopikos I hear run out of ink quite fast according to my friend. And my friend who's used them before have had the nibs fall off on her before. For the copics, you can refill the ink, and just like with the pencils, it's more cost efficient in the long run. With neopiko, the ink is the same, but you can't refill or replace nibs. But it's up to you, the neopiko might be cheaper, but you have to think of the long term if you're an artist. I'd rather refill than rebuy whole markers.
arrow Pencil: Pencils, I just use .5 mm mechanical pencils. Someone stated that you can't shade with mechanical pencils, but I beg to differ. You can shade just as well, you just have to handle the media differently. I also love to do lines and shading with ball point. It's quite fun.
arrow About screentoning and CG: Yes, Deleter has good CG programs. It is also known in the domestic US as the Open Canvas program. You can also buy this online as a download at http://www.portalgraphics.net/en/ if you don't want to buy the software. You cannot get the manga studio/screentone Deleter CG program from this site though. Just another source other than that art site you suggested. x3 I really want this program, but I've yet to be able to pay for it. It's also a LOT cheaper than photoshop though, even though that's what I use.
Other programs I use: Painter 8, Open Canvas 1.1, Photoshop 7.
arrow Prismacolor: I love prismacolor. I learned with color pencils first before marker. I just bought another set of prismacolor yesterday for 50% off at a sale at my Aaron Brother's store. I really recommend these. They're out for my blood. The only reason they're hard to erase is because of the high wax content in these pencils. This is actually the reason why they blend a lot better than other color pencils. You have to be more careful when you use them, as with any media. And prismacolor markers are just as good, I love them just as much. These are what I currently use, because last year I also bought a set for 50% off at the same sale. Until I can afford Copics for a good price, I'll be stuck practicing with these for now. So far I only have about 7 copic markers which I'm practicing monochrome with, they're a dream. And because of the practice I've had with prismacolor, they were a lot easier to graduate into.
arrow Other mediums: I've started getting into pastel and acrylics. Fine arts baby! My art class got me into them. I'd love to try and do some manga/anime artwork with these supplies, but we'll see. And watercolors are a dream for anime/manga artist, I bought a water brush for the purpose of this (brushes you can fill with water), but I don't really have the time to work with water and everything and set up an area.
Hope this helps, this is long, but this is what I use. Which is a LOT of crap. I like variety. =) That said, I think I might be more biased for Copics, but if you like Deleter, more power to you, they have some quality stuff. NOTHING IS WRONG WITH VARIETY! I like to use fine art supplies, acrylics are harder, they dry too quickly, oil takes too long to dry. oil pastels are awesome! I get the cheap kind from Walmart! They are awesome! I really don't care for watercolors. But, they are great for effective backgrounds.
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:08 am
You're right! painting with pencils can be a pain in the butt.
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:12 am
Someone, anyone, please!!! I need some tips other than "patience" for hair.
As soon as I get a scanner you'll see.
But could anyone gimme some pointers for now?
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:46 pm
Ive found that lead over 0.7 smears very easily. As for evil, i recomend trying new things. Personally, i like spiky hair, but its not always standing straight up. And remember to make the hair thinner ans you go farther. hope it helped!!
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:47 pm
o__o;
I've been meaning to ask my dad to help me with ordering from there. It never happened though. xD;
I'm not quite sure what I should start off with though....
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:49 am
My preferred supplies are:
-Non photoblue pencils
-Pencils 2H-9H
-Inks
-Copic markers
-Tone
-Sakura Micron pens
-Pen nibs
-A4 size doujinshi paper
Lol too many to list. I prefer to do everything by hand when it comes to my Doujinshi. Including text.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:43 am
SnowyPanda o__o; I've been meaning to ask my dad to help me with ordering from there. It never happened though. xD; I'm not quite sure what I should start off with though....
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:06 pm
What I use...
Sketching:
I have a set of 'technical' Derwent graphite pencils, ranging from HB-9H, which is really good for me because I usually ink all my stuff.
Sometimes, I'll use a mechanical pencil if I don't want to haul all my nice pencils with me. I have a .07 mech. pencil with 3H lead, and that's usually nice for me. I like color, so I'm most likely to ink and color all my drawings.
For sketching on the computer, I use my Wacom 6x8 graphire3 tablet and usually, Opencanvas 1.1.
Inking:
Like a lot of people, I use Sakura Micron pens. I'd like to use India ink, though, because even I can tell how GRAY the Sakura ink is... But, I do what I can when all I do is yank pens from my art student brother wink
Digital inking is something I usually avoid, but if I'm going to it's easier to ink in Opencanvas (4.03PLUS or 1.1), but sometimes I get lazy and just do it in the program I'm coloring in.
Coloring:
Next month when we have money, I'm going to be getting Neopiko markers, so happy!
What I color with now, is usually colored pencils. I see people swearing by Prismacolor ALL the freaking time, and I really don't know why. I have 70-80 Crayola pencils, 36 Derwent, and 24 Prismacolors, and by far I looove my Crayolas. They're just so cheap and so many colors! But I think I get the best results by mixing brands. Derwent has so many rich greens, Crayola has one of everything, Prismacolor is good for second layers of bright colors... it's knowing how to use them, not the brand.
For highlights I have an opaque white paint pen from a brand called Decocolor. It works for me.
I also like to use watercolors. It's probably inherited, my father is very skilled with watercolors, although for him it's a hobby that he does once in a blue moon (he does woodworking most of the time.) So, as a result of that, we have so many tubes of high-quality paint; almost every Cotman color, a set of Chinese colors (that mix beautifully), a set of Sakura Kois, and more that I can't remember off the top of my head. Also we have some Gum Arabic (you put in on after you're completely done, it's like a shiny coat and it's lovely), some great colorless, odorless masking fluid, and more brushes than I can count @A@
I also have a basic set of oil paints, but they really just sit there. The fumes from oil paint give me such a headache, even if I wear a mask. Watercolors smell good to me xd ;;
On the computer, I color CGs either with Photoshop CS (which my mommy got from work for free), Photoshop Elements 2, Opencanvas 4.03PLUS, Opencanvas1.1, or Painter IX (though I really don't know how to use it right.)
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:56 am
Anya Dracula I ALWAYS use Pilot pens to ink my drawings and I ALWAYS use BIC mechanical pencils for sketching. You say not to get Prismacolor markers? gonk Too late. I like them, but I've never used any other marker (besides crayola rolleyes ) i either use colored pencil or nothing... i make comics (manga) and i sell them to my friends. if u want a comic tell me wich version (ninja advanced normal or gaian) and ill mail it to u.... but first u need to mail me the money. nd if im gonna mail it to u its gonna cost like 5 dollars or less..... it depends how many pages u want in it.... mrgreen
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:05 am
EvilExcalibur Someone, anyone, please!!! I need some tips other than "patience" for hair. As soon as I get a scanner you'll see. But could anyone gimme some pointers for now? Well, hair moves with the following: The head shape Wind Gravity *Certain Scenes* Head shape: If you have someone with a square head, then the hair flows and follows the roundness of the top of the head. (use real life photos for this!) Also rememeber. HAIR IS NOT FLAT! hair builds up when it grows. and it falls down. but never make a flat line for the top of the hair. Wind: This of scenery, if they are at a beach, then the reality is that the hair will be moving. Wind also effects running. If a character is running (lets use a profile view) to the right. the hair would move to the left. When a person runs: they fight the wind (is most dramatic scenery) so the hair would flow the opposite. Or if they jump back quickly from the left (from another profile view) the hair would be forced to go right. Gravity: simply "hair goes down" But when working with gravity, also remeber wind! They work together well. Certain Scenes: Hair is much like eyes. The hair shows emotions! If it sticks up, it is mostly fright or shock. If it is bouncy and swirly, It is mainly romantic. Hair is important. For more than just looks. But also take action scenes. This is where wind and gravity take more effect. Just doodle around with scenery, and you'll get it done in no time! But as for drawing: Remember that hair is above the head, never under (unless their bald...) because hair travels from the center of the top of your head, and falls down due to gravity. Also, take mind of character design. Don't give them all the same haircut! Spiky, Flat, Straight, Curly, Long, Wavy, Short, Bouncy, Cropped, Layered, Ponytails, Buns, Long Bains*, Straight then Curled! These are the main designs in manga now. Have fun with hair, don't let it trouble you too much! As for supplies: Use thin leads (such as mechanical pencils) and thin inking tools (I use the maru nib, but a small ball point pen helps as well.) For colouring: Prismacolor Verithins Pencils are usefull, Copic marker are good too, just be carefull around the tips of hair.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:09 am
SnowyPanda o__o; I've been meaning to ask my dad to help me with ordering from there. It never happened though. xD; I'm not quite sure what I should start off with though.... I started with paper and pen nibs/holders. That all you really need to start.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:56 pm
Ishrie And I counted how many licks when I was in 3rd grade. X{D;; 445.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:56 am
i love useing copic makers( worth the 250$ i paid!) and i like using the aqua bee brand paper.
can some one give me a suggestion for a pen
that isnt so expensive that i could buy at the pharmaci
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