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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:44 pm
GOD DONT COMPLICATE IT MAN!!!!! DANTE and Vergil are bros not fricken souls or any other crap...thatd make it SUCK!!!!...anyway...DMC3 got a 9 outta 10 in Game informer woot
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:03 am
ElvenAngelPhoebe Pinoy Romeo Who is the eldest brother?It feels like Vergil is the eldest, but I don't know... I don't think anyone really knows who is the eldest than the creators of the game itself. But I do have a feeling myself that Vergil is indeed the older one... and I dunno, my feelings are usually right, I kinda have a talent at guessing what happens in stories (that's why my friends shut my mouth in movies XD) Anyway, Vergil also kinda seems like the older one... In most stories its the big brother that does the nasty thing and the little one that deals with it... sweatdrop Errrr... I also think Dante is more... immature than Vergil... aheheheh... >< I've got a big question here... Why is Vergil evil? Why the hell does he use a katana while Dante uses a broadsword? Why does he hate Dante so much? And why the hell does he comply to associate with Arkham, whoever he is? And lastly, what actually did happen to Vergil anyway? In DMC we're told that both he and Eva died 20 years prior the storyline. And we saw that was a lie. Then... where the heck was he all that time? Why did he emerge back into Dante's past like that, in DMC3?? sweatdrop Yeah I know, that's a chain of questions... but I can't help it, I'm curious! whee I've burned so many braincells trying to figure this out. I have my theories, but if I beggin elaborating, I won't be done by even next Christmas. Vergil is the older of the two, why? Vergil came out of Eva's p***y first. Dante has the broadswrod because Sparda gave it to him. Vergil had to settle for the next best thing- a Katana. Vergil hates dante because of his attitude, Vergil wants power because he believes it's his birthright, the power Sparda squandered away, and dante doesn't care. it's possible that vergil dies at the end of DMC3*doesn't know cause hasn't beaten it* and becomes Mundus's slave, that's why Vergil doesn't kill dante in their first encounter in DMC1, because he feels regret for being so evil and becoming someone else's slave. Vergil is associated with Arkham because Arkham has knowledge of how to ressurect the demon realm and Vergil needs the Temen-ni-gru to get the sword of sparda to be strong enough to rule hell by force.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:21 am
I don't understand. How could Dante be dead? I'm really confused.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:49 pm
Okay, so the first question : Why is Vergil evil?
Answer: He isn't. Vergil seeks power. Or, more notably, to be like their father. That is why he doesn't kill Lady when she interferes between him and Dante fighting.
Question: Why the hell does he use a katana when Dante uses a broadsword?
Answer: Other than the obvious reference of Dante being the favourite and harbouring his father's blade, it also is a reflection of personality. The katana is made for quick, light hits that subdue the enemy, and need precise thought and conscision. The broadsword is bulky, requires little planning anmd is more of a 'run in and hack to bits everything' type sword. Irrational and rational.
Question: Why does he hate Dante so much?
Answer: Didn't you play the whole game through? He doesn't hate his brother. That is a common sibling rivalry, and if you notice he leaps in and works with Dante when Arkham turns. He also helps fight along with Dante, they do a combo attack, it hints they worked as partners beforehand, and lastly, he kills himself rather than fight to the death with his brother and possibly trap him within the demon realm. Doesn't sound like something you'd do for someone you hated to me.
Question: Why does he associate with Arkham?
Answer: he needed the ifnormation theo ther had. He sensed the evil in him, and realized that to gain his father's power he'd need the help of Arkham. It is also why he 'kills' him when he sees no use left for the male.
Question: Where was Vergil Between DMC3-DMC1/Why did he re-submerge into Dante's past like that?
Answer: Falling off a cliff, fighting Sparda's true power, fighting to near death with your brother is going to weaken you. Even if you're as confident as Vergil. In the hidden scene it becomes apparent that he tries to face Mundus. And that he is barely able to stand he's so wounded. In Devil may Cry 1 he also grasps his head when he recognizes Dante, in apparent pain. So the basic answer; He was defeated by Mundus and brainwashed into a lackey.
Answer: Nelo Angelo was a fan favourite, and one of the biggest questions left in DMC1. Creators knew people would respond well to this relationship being more played out.
Lastly : No, Vergil and Dante are not the same, nor is Vergil an imaginary character of Dante. Because the battle in DMC1 was very real, and Mundus and Trish both knew who Angelo was. Also, note Vergil says, "Our souls seem to be at odds, brother." Hinting they both have seperate souls.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:14 pm
Pinoy Romeo There is a slight possibility that Virgil and Dante are Not Brothers. Now that I got your attention, lemme explain. It is my belief that Dante and Virgil are in truth, two parts of the same soul. The pendant being a metaphor for it from the first game and the fight between them and the scream at the end of the trailer being the second. But of course, that would mean the Devs at Capcom would hafta be creative so this will msot likely never become true. Oh well. In a sense they are two parts of one soul. Since they are the sons of sparda, his soul was split into two halves when he mated with Trish, and she had Dante and Vergil. That's why one strives to save people and one strives to gain power. Sparda wasn't always good, it was only when Trish met him that he truely found compassion for humans. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:28 pm
Ummmm.....I read that they are twin brothers, Dante is the younger and Virgil is the older.
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:51 am
Dante spawn of Sparda, that is like saying ALL twins are different sides of souls. Dante and Vergil are not. The whole point of showing they used to work together and can easily handle one another's weapon proves that. Plus, if it was a soul thing, then Vergil would obviously want Dante's soul as well, considering he wants to surpass his father's power. Geeze, get a sibling.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:22 am
Goth_Wolf Dante spawn of Sparda, that is like saying ALL twins are different sides of souls. Dante and Vergil are not. The whole point of showing they used to work together and can easily handle one another's weapon proves that. Plus, if it was a soul thing, then Vergil would obviously want Dante's soul as well, considering he wants to surpass his father's power. Geeze, get a sibling. Gah, my head is spinning. I think DMC3 raised even more questions than the ones it answered. Oh well. BTW... I have 4 siblings. We're at each other's throats with my brother, and in fact my brother is turning a bit like Vergil, uptight, conceited and snobbish. I think its time I pulled a Dante on him. *Grabs a pillow and stuffs an iron ornament in it* Oh brooother?! Where art thou?!
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:20 am
Ok it says that their father is Sparda and that they are brothers. Dante is the little brother.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:43 am
MurasakiTora yes very unlike capcom to anything that complicated without outside help...i personnaly like the twin thing better . i agree
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:01 pm
Rolf Eusis Pinoy Romeo There is a slight possibility that Virgil and Dante are Not Brothers. Now that I got your attention, lemme explain. It is my belief that Dante and Virgil are in truth, two parts of the same soul. The pendant being a metaphor for it from the first game and the fight between them and the scream at the end of the trailer being the second. But of course, that would mean the Devs at Capcom would hafta be creative so this will msot likely never become true. Oh well. Actually there was a similar idea to that used in Phantasy Star 2. Nei First and Nei. Nei First was a biological experiment combining human DNA with various and unspecified DNA types. She was deemed a failure and fled before she was to be killed. Nei First became quite evil and insane plotting revenge for being deemed a failure and the attempted killing. Part of her disagreed with these thoughts and possibly due to instabilities in the genetic structure that part split off. This was Nei. Nei eventually had to fight Neifirst and no matter what she would die in this fight because if Nei First were to die she would as well because Nei First was the original and had the most of their spirit. Now for the Dante/Virgil thing to work there are a few alterations to the story that would need to be done to have an acurate split being idea, and it would have to follow a similar method to the Nei/Nei First thing. That would mean ALOT of Dante's past poping up in the new game. First of all Dante would need the larger portion of the soul to avoid dieing when Virgil dies. Second the cause for Virgil would have had to happen pre-birth most likely to give the idea that they were twins, perhaps some meddling was done by an evil spirit. And lastly something or someone important would have to bring this information to the surface. So while it is possible that they are not brothers but one split being, it is highly unlikely as you said. O_O Now that Im done rambling I may go to bed. whee reading what you said makes me think. in the first game when the two pendants came together they formed the sword sparda. and i think according to what i read, in the third game the pendant has the power of sparda(not sure) so maybe Vergil and Dante are actually Sparda seperated. think about it the smell's are the same according to one of the guardians(from what i remember) the power and blood is the same, and they all look like sparda according to the first spider boss in the first game(i cant believe i forgot his name, he killed me like 10 times). it seems like they make up sparda.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:30 am
Pinoy Romeo demon boy Laguna BTW- I commend you, for actually stopping to think. alot of people, would never think enough to come up with something like that. ::gives you a cookie:: xd Thank you. I got alot of free time, being a Part-time member after all. Anyways, I've got another thing.... Who is the eldest brother?It feels like Vergil is the eldest, but I don't know... this post may have been answered allready but if not, In DMC3 when you fight vergil for the first time Dante sais the words "how about a kiss for your little brother"... So Vergils the oldest?
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:41 pm
DirteeRice Thier twin brothers. After vergil "killed" dante, he slicked his hair back and that gave him the new look. Before that he looked just like dante except with blue eyes. Vergil doesn't kill Dante stare
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:43 pm
Ofcourse they're Brothers
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:43 pm
Dante and Vergil are twin brothers it is pretty obvious if you've played DMC and DMC3 sweatdrop
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