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 Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:27 pm
it was the saw smallville style> razz . but it was pretty sick razz
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:44 pm
zach61092 `Chloe Sullivan` Chloe never said anything to Clark about telling Lana his secret. Chloe was telling CLark that if he didn't want to LOOSE lana then he should tell her. he already lost her. He is not ging to tell her now. i was the on ewho was tellin gyou that people do illegal things in Businesses. Lionel is not the only one who crossed that line. I want to know why you are singling me out in your post. Because i never said anything to you. Clark is not being stubborn. Clark doesn not want a new father anytime soon. Jonathon told Clark to be aware of Lionel and to be on his guard. Clark is not going to be decived. Lionel knows it too. Lana did not play a part in the episode BARELY at all. Except for that Lex is trying to resolve with Clark But Lex is keeping their relationship quiet. Clark was not being an a** to Lex because of Lana, Clark doens't even know about Lex and Lana yet. Clark is trying to be protective. lol thats liek basically the same thing... about teeling lana his secret... and clana would be revived if clark told his secret... and about the lionel thing thats what i consider evil. uve said alot to me . what dp u mean... and clark keeps giving lex a dirty look.... i mean yta lex is turning evil but clark needsa to lighten up. ok well clark was being a jerk then. he said "i bet you knew the gun was loaded". even though we all know he didnt know. also Lionel has known clarks secret for a long time... and hasnt told it but clakr still doesnt trust him... and atleast u can admit is that marth is having a big effect on lionel making him good... opening that big dakr hole inside is heart and filling it with light.. NO its not the same thing. because Clana is old news. Clark has no more motivation to tell Lana his secret, and Chloe is not pressuring him to tell her anymore. Clana would NOT revive. Tell Lana his secret would not be a bandaid to their situation. There would still be a scare. Lana has moved on. Knowing his secret or not, Clark's feelings have changed. I never said anything about Clark giving Lex a dirty look.e never know if Lionel knows or not. He could have easily known. I mean Lionel has had a lot of experience and training with guns. He could probly tell a full cockpit from an empty one. It doens't matter how long Lionel has known and not exposed. It comes down to JOnathon's warning to Clark in Void. Clark is not going to move on very easy. Lionel has always loved Martha. And not only is it Martha, Lionel changed after Transference. Although we were decieved into thinking he had once again turned evil, But after his Kryptonian Trance/Coma he became good again... to a point.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:50 pm
well i dont know much about guns but i dont think you can if its loaded or not... clark was even looking at them whe nthey were
in the elevator!! if he used a little bit ofd his common snese he would know that lionel loves marth and was as scared as hell and though it was loaded.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:52 pm
Once again. Clark does not care how Lionel feels.He is more worried about Jonathon's threat and warning he madein Void. And Weight. You would know.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:54 pm
ok well johnathan was wrong.... lex i becomign the predetor and lionel is becoming the allie..
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:59 pm
No Jonathon was not wrong. Jonathon is an angel/spirit what ever you want to call him. Either way they know now what is happening in Clark's lives. there was a reason that Clark saw his dad, Why Lana saw her parents, and why Lex saw his mother. Warning, reassurance, and advisory. Jonathon was not warning Clark because he doesn't like Lionel, Jonathon knows better then anyone what Lionel is capable of doing. What Jonathon saw before h died, was enough to let Jonathon know he was a threat. Clark would Much rather accept his father's warning then Lionels' sudden charity character. Clark has never liked lionel. There is no reason why he should start liking him now.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:04 pm
`Chloe Sullivan` No Jonathon was not wrong. Jonathon is an angel/spirit what ever you want to call him. Either way they know now what is happening in Clark's lives. there was a reason that Clark saw his dad, Why Lana saw her parents, and why Lex saw his mother. Warning, reassurance, and advisory. Jonathon was not warning Clark because he doesn't like Lionel, Jonathon knows better then anyone what Lionel is capable of doing. What Jonathon saw before h died, was enough to let Jonathon know he was a threat. Clark would Much rather accept his father's warning then Lionels' sudden charity character. Clark has never liked lionel. There is no reason why he should start liking him now. well no joathan warned clark cause he knew his scret and though lionel was going to do somthing bad...but lionel hasnt done anything wrong and there is no danger. as i said lionel is changing. plus clark should know he loves martha... now lionel isnt capable of tellign anything to anyoe abotu clark secret because of his love for martha. there was no need for that warning by johnathan
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:50 pm
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:17 am
I think Clark has no reason to trust Lionel at all after all he has done to him and to others I definately wouldnt trust him if I knew all that stuff and if my dad told me to be careful around him. I would take my father's word over some guy who "says hes changed".
Anyway beside that I still think Lionel is one of my favorite characters on the show I dont know something about him just appeals to me.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:45 am
I thought it was great, even if it was a "Saw" rip. I thought it was a little funny that the "villian" of the episode was a guy with tinfoil stuck to his face... I'd love to know what Lionel was writing when he fell to his knees with what looked like a massive headache at the end of the episode...
stare also supported my Jor-El theory.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:12 am
zach61092 `Chloe Sullivan` No Jonathon was not wrong. Jonathon is an angel/spirit what ever you want to call him. Either way they know now what is happening in Clark's lives. there was a reason that Clark saw his dad, Why Lana saw her parents, and why Lex saw his mother. Warning, reassurance, and advisory. Jonathon was not warning Clark because he doesn't like Lionel, Jonathon knows better then anyone what Lionel is capable of doing. What Jonathon saw before h died, was enough to let Jonathon know he was a threat. Clark would Much rather accept his father's warning then Lionels' sudden charity character. Clark has never liked lionel. There is no reason why he should start liking him now. well no joathan warned clark cause he knew his scret and though lionel was going to do somthing bad...but lionel hasnt done anything wrong and there is no danger. as i said lionel is changing. plus clark should know he loves martha... now lionel isnt capable of tellign anything to anyoe abotu clark secret because of his love for martha. there was no need for that warning by johnathan Ypur still not getting it. Clark does not care if Lionel is "changing" he is going to take what JONATOHAN his father, said and warned over what Lionel says and does Clark is not going to let his guard down With Lionel. Your Kidding yourself if you seriously think he will. Clark is being hotheaded because he doesn't want to see his father get so easily replaced. Clark is going to try and keep Lionel away from his family. Jonthan's warning to Clark is going to be taken very seriously. Jonathon knows more about what is going on than what Clark and Martha know. Lionel is up to something. Clark is not going to hang loose with Lionel until his end.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:36 am
I get what you're saying DestineChaos. I think Jor El is still in Lionel's body and that massive headache he had at the end was some sort of effect of Jor el intervening in some way...and that Lionel was writing down something about Clark's secret so that he would remember it. I dunno..it's just a theory.
The ep was totally AMAZING! though^^ Loved it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:59 am
`Chloe Sullivan` zach61092 `Chloe Sullivan` No Jonathon was not wrong. Jonathon is an angel/spirit what ever you want to call him. Either way they know now what is happening in Clark's lives. there was a reason that Clark saw his dad, Why Lana saw her parents, and why Lex saw his mother. Warning, reassurance, and advisory. Jonathon was not warning Clark because he doesn't like Lionel, Jonathon knows better then anyone what Lionel is capable of doing. What Jonathon saw before h died, was enough to let Jonathon know he was a threat. Clark would Much rather accept his father's warning then Lionels' sudden charity character. Clark has never liked lionel. There is no reason why he should start liking him now. well no joathan warned clark cause he knew his scret and though lionel was going to do somthing bad...but lionel hasnt done anything wrong and there is no danger. as i said lionel is changing. plus clark should know he loves martha... now lionel isnt capable of tellign anything to anyoe abotu clark secret because of his love for martha. there was no need for that warning by johnathan Ypur still not getting it. Clark does not care if Lionel is "changing" he is going to take what JONATOHAN his father, said and warned over what Lionel says and does Clark is not going to let his guard down With Lionel. Your Kidding yourself if you seriously think he will. Clark is being hotheaded because he doesn't want to see his father get so easily replaced. Clark is going to try and keep Lionel away from his family. Jonthan's warning to Clark is going to be taken very seriously. Jonathon knows more about what is going on than what Clark and Martha know. Lionel is up to something. Clark is not going to hang loose with Lionel until his end. i said clark should stop being hot-headed about lionel... im not saying he will...
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:12 pm
zach61092 `Chloe Sullivan` zach61092 `Chloe Sullivan` No Jonathon was not wrong. Jonathon is an angel/spirit what ever you want to call him. Either way they know now what is happening in Clark's lives. there was a reason that Clark saw his dad, Why Lana saw her parents, and why Lex saw his mother. Warning, reassurance, and advisory. Jonathon was not warning Clark because he doesn't like Lionel, Jonathon knows better then anyone what Lionel is capable of doing. What Jonathon saw before h died, was enough to let Jonathon know he was a threat. Clark would Much rather accept his father's warning then Lionels' sudden charity character. Clark has never liked lionel. There is no reason why he should start liking him now. well no joathan warned clark cause he knew his scret and though lionel was going to do somthing bad...but lionel hasnt done anything wrong and there is no danger. as i said lionel is changing. plus clark should know he loves martha... now lionel isnt capable of tellign anything to anyoe abotu clark secret because of his love for martha. there was no need for that warning by johnathan Ypur still not getting it. Clark does not care if Lionel is "changing" he is going to take what JONATOHAN his father, said and warned over what Lionel says and does Clark is not going to let his guard down With Lionel. Your Kidding yourself if you seriously think he will. Clark is being hotheaded because he doesn't want to see his father get so easily replaced. Clark is going to try and keep Lionel away from his family. Jonthan's warning to Clark is going to be taken very seriously. Jonathon knows more about what is going on than what Clark and Martha know. Lionel is up to something. Clark is not going to hang loose with Lionel until his end. i said clark should stop being hot-headed about lionel... im not saying he will... and I'm saying he should not stop being Hotheaded about Lionel. Lionel might have changed but he has not totally changed yet. Although I like Lionel and i think he is cool, I still don't want Clark to be level headed with him. Because that is exactly what Lionel wants. If Lionel can get clark on his side, he culd use Clark and Manipulate Clark to do rotten things. All through Black Mail. Clark doesn't want that to happen, and i don't think anyone wants that to happen.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:14 pm
do rotten things like what? how would lionel manipulate him..
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