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 Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:56 pm
Hairy Priest HappyBanana The episode is so old, saying omega comes back is like saying everyone dies at the end of Hamlet or Frodo goes nuts and ties to take the one ring in Mount Doom. whee So, no sweat. Everyone dies in Hamlet?! Nooooo.... gonk Anyway, I'm glad you don't mind. Keep an eye out for that Commander Maxil (if you don't already know what I'm referring to, it'll be pretty darn obvious the second you see him!). That's a 5th doctor story, right? xp
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:56 pm
Hairy Priest The best parts were when the Doctor just loses it when talking to the Dalek; you really got a sense that the Time War had affected the Doctor psychologically, making him act in ways we'd never seen him behave in the past. When the Doctor starts ranting and the Dalek tells him he'd make a good Dalek, it was one of those eek moments! Totally. It was literally chilling. I'm sure it annoys other people to no end, but I love how this Doctor is such an anti-hero. The war took so much out of him and now he's trying to put some semblance of a life together. Hairy Priest However, I disliked how the writer kept pointing out the sillier aspects of the Dalek design, such as the plunger arm ("What are you going to do, sucker me to death?") and the lack of legs ("Ha ha, defeated by a flight of stairs"). It seemed like too much of a nod to the audience, which I found distracting. I rather liked the quiet nods to early BBC production values. Sure, they were terrible, but the story was so awesome that nobody cared. My roommate was incredibly amused by that sucker bit. Clearly, these guys have never read the Bad Guy Instruction Manual. What did annoy me was that random "let's torture the Doctor for 60 seconds so we can point out he's got two hearts" bit. I mean honestly, what was all that about? It felt like the writers wanted to go somewhere with that, but then they just forgot about it. Eccleston's performance, however, was intense. I could say so much about it. I'm so sad that he's only around for the season.
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:19 am
Star_Lily What did annoy me was that random "let's torture the Doctor for 60 seconds so we can point out he's got two hearts" bit. I mean honestly, what was all that about? It felt like the writers wanted to go somewhere with that, but then they just forgot about it. I think they just wanted an excuse to show Eccleston with his shirt off. I'll leave it up to the ladies (and men of that particular persuasion) to decide if they actually did the audience a favor or not...
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:01 am
Daisuke_Hirotaki I really despise the compainion they pick up in this episode. Seriously, what a suck up... don't worry he dosn't last woops I've said to much
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:24 am
Hairy Priest Star_Lily What did annoy me was that random "let's torture the Doctor for 60 seconds so we can point out he's got two hearts" bit. I mean honestly, what was all that about? It felt like the writers wanted to go somewhere with that, but then they just forgot about it. I think they just wanted an excuse to show Eccleston with his shirt off. I'll leave it up to the ladies (and men of that particular persuasion) to decide if they actually did the audience a favor or not... Ah, fanservice. How we love thee. blaugh
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:00 pm
I thought that giving the Dalek emotion was kind of odd. A little laughable, but interesting. I'm sorry, but give me the good old fashioned, "EXTERMINATE!!!" ones any day.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:48 am
I thought it was a nice try. In the olden days of sci-fi, it was enough to just be the bad guy. That was motivation enough to want to destroy planets and whatnot. Nowadays, everyone's got to have motivation.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:56 am
Some interesting information from viewership of Dr. Who in the U.S.
Gender: 64% male, 36% female
Median age: 47
Good lord, that can't be right. 47?! Someone that old could have been watching the show since it first began showing in the 60's...! eek
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:20 pm
My statistics professor 90% of statistics are made up. I'm rather surprised. I would have thought that the fanbase would be somewhat younger than that. Where did you find the statistics?
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:30 pm
Star_Lily My statistics professor 90% of statistics are made up. I'm rather surprised. I would have thought that the fanbase would be somewhat younger than that. Where did you find the statistics? At Outpost Gallifrey, all the way down on the entry for April 25th. The title of the article is "US Ratings Report: The Long Game". As an aside, be sure to enter the SciFi contest for your chance to win a 30gb iPod, complete with the entire series 1 of Doctor Who downloaded on it! You only need to answer 3 questions correctly (and they don't change). I got 70% on my first try.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:46 am
It wasn't AMAZING but Captain Jack was good I liked him 3nodding but Rose will always be awesome (for a chav) OMG I remember hating her when she did music! sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:11 pm
Having just watched Father's Day I wanted to know people's thoughts on this episode as a character building episode.
I'm sure everyone has those things they want to go back in time and change. I don't know if this premise has been dealt with so directly before by Doctor Who but I liked the treatment.
There wasn't nearly as much humor in this episode, for obvious reasons, but I felt the serious tone worked well, so long as the writer's don't make a habit of it.
The opening sequence was confusing as all hell, though. I think the editors were trying to cram too much info in at one time.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:56 pm
As a piece of drama, I think it was very effective. I even shed a tear or two ( cry ). But as a piece of science fiction, I have so many problems with the story. Like, why did everyone that got eaten by the Reapers magically reappear when Rose's dad died? Why did everyone forget everything afterwards? Why did the TARDIS interior disappear? And what was responsible for that car conveniently following dad around to run him over? So many unexplained plot points!
One thing I did like is that it was possible for Rose to change the past and save her dad. In fact, had Rose not gone and touched baby Rose (causing a paradox), the Doctor's plan would have in theory saved the day, and her dad would have lived. So, basically, Rose screwed up.
It must be in the genes.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:10 pm
Hairy Priest Some interesting information from viewership of Dr. Who in the U.S. Gender: 64% male, 36% female Median age: 47 Good lord, that can't be right. 47?! Someone that old could have been watching the show since it first began showing in the 60's...! eek Can garentee the female viewers will go up when you get David Tennant.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:53 pm
Hairy Priest But as a piece of science fiction, I have so many problems with the story. Like, why did everyone that got eaten by the Reapers magically reappear when Rose's dad died? Why did everyone forget everything afterwards? Why did the TARDIS interior disappear? And what was responsible for that car conveniently following dad around to run him over? So many unexplained plot points! As far as I see it, most of that had to do with the fact that the reapers were only there to 'clean up' the temporal damage done by keeping Rose's father alive. All those people who saw him at the church shouldn't have done, thus becoming part of a 'redundant' timestream, if you will. Using that as an interpretation the reapers then would have to destroy them as part of their 'damage limitation' protocol to ensure none of them interfered with other time streams. Presumably those 'eaten' were merely removed from time rather than actually dying, and put somewhere where they couldn't interfere further. As for the TARDIS being empty that can similarly be explained if you accept that, in order to isolate a time stream, the Reapers must have some ability to prevent any others from encroaching on it. The TARDIS interior exists in a different dimension and thus couldn't exist alongside the normal earth one while the reapers were sorting things out, because after all that was what was causing the problem in the first place. Once Rose's father met his proper fate though the reapers were able to restore everything because it would no longer pose a threat to the time stream of the earth in general. They merely had to 'reset' the situation rather than trying to remove it entirely. And the car following him around...? Well, that's the temporal instability that caused the Reapers to arrive in the first place, isn't it? It's like the way a record can get stuck if the needle doesn't quite follow the groove-it keeps coming round to try again but hits the same obstacle and is forced into a loop until someone smacks it hard enough xD *whew* I hope that made at least some sense to some of you ^^;
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