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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:38 pm
Brokuto DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto (has been lurking) theres actually an art action part of the forums so it shouldnt be breaking any rules and we can possibly look to see how theyre run as well. ive seen group art actions up on there before as well. we dont want the artists to take up too much though other wise theyll just back out completely . youve unbroken my brain ty! Renato is also awol and the fact that Epcot has to approve of artists obs didnt work so im contacting everyone that applied atm asking if theyd be interested in an art action. Renato is AWOL too? freaking kidding me? they host a room together... That's so worrisome...
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:45 pm
DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto (has been lurking) theres actually an art action part of the forums so it shouldnt be breaking any rules and we can possibly look to see how theyre run as well. ive seen group art actions up on there before as well. we dont want the artists to take up too much though other wise theyll just back out completely . youve unbroken my brain ty! Renato is also awol and the fact that Epcot has to approve of artists obs didnt work so im contacting everyone that applied atm asking if theyd be interested in an art action. Renato is AWOL too? freaking kidding me? they host a room together... That's so worrisome... Renato had health issues last i spoke to them and they were in and out of hospital
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:50 pm
Brokuto DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto (has been lurking) theres actually an art action part of the forums so it shouldnt be breaking any rules and we can possibly look to see how theyre run as well. ive seen group art actions up on there before as well. we dont want the artists to take up too much though other wise theyll just back out completely . youve unbroken my brain ty! Renato is also awol and the fact that Epcot has to approve of artists obs didnt work so im contacting everyone that applied atm asking if theyd be interested in an art action. Renato is AWOL too? freaking kidding me? they host a room together... That's so worrisome... Renato had health issues last i spoke to them and they were in and out of hospital I do hope she's okay. Still, it's a bit concerning. A lot of people are MIA.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:14 pm
DJ Hope 1990 Brokuto Renato had health issues last i spoke to them and they were in and out of hospital I do hope she's okay. Still, it's a bit concerning. A lot of people are MIA. Like I've said, those that don't get back to me by May 1st will be demoted and worst case scenario, we will just cut the room and redistribute hosts. Their health and wellbeing is out of their control, but if they aren't able to pop in to provide updates now, they aren't capable of organising a room and shouldn't be in the position. If the only time they can spare for the ball is on the actual day, then they can participate as a guest, not a host.
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troubled-pasta Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:08 pm
I see there have been quite a few responses in this thread. I'll respond to them hopefully sometime tomorrow. ^.^
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:17 pm
DJ Hope 1990 What kind of art auction are you going to be doing? just sort of posting up art profiles and throwing us to the wolves or would you like some of us to draw up some pictures and show our profiles and get people to bid on it, and they end up with a LK themed mystery picture? Actually scratch that, that's probably against the rules. How the hell do Art Auctions on gaia work without breaking the rules? Art Auctions are not against the rules. Donation Contests are against the rules. The main difference between these two. (And the reason why Donation Contests are Banned) is that in Donation Contests you keep the gold from ALL "Bids" and only one person ends up getting anything from it. While an Art Auction only the highest bidder pays and they get the prize. Often times for Donation contests people would even not allow the amount someone donated to be shown anywhere, so you could be donating a large amount a gold to only find out it was less than what someone else already bid. DJ Hope 1990 If I can round up a couple few artists, (including myself... >_<...ugh I know I'm going to regret this) We offer like three pictures each. We can "sell" our art, like an art shop, but theres a very a limited amount of pictures. So say there is 3 artists, with 3 pictures each, all with different styles, there is 9 pictures up for grabs. One may have chibi style, one may be hand drawn, the other one is like a general style of avatar art. For this art auction, and to keep things simple. I would say we should have only 1 to 3 artists and each should only do a single piece of artwork up for grabs. DJ Hope 1990 But each picture is 'played' for via dice roll. All proceeds go to the annual ball. For each dice for example, it's 1 billion gold (or whatever). They can buy as many dice as they want and they can roll say a hundred sided dice, and the three people who say get a specific number get the pictures?: This..... Sounds like a headache inducing way of housing an auction. This sounds like a more complex version of a raffle to start with, which is allowed btw, but generally is not used for selling artwork. Trying to keep track of is someone paid to roll or not would not be easy. And there'd be nothing stopping from someone rolling to see if they win, and then only paying for that roll if they win. It would place a LOT of work on me compared to a simple auction. x.x; Brokuto theres actually an art action part of the forums so it shouldnt be breaking any rules and we can possibly look to see how theyre run as well. ive seen group art actions up on there before as well. we dont want the artists to take up too much though other wise theyll just back out completely . Its as Bro says. I've run Art auctions before, even one for the annual ball in the past. In fact I think Bro took part in that art auction. We had a lot of artists sign up for it, but only like 2 or 3 actually stuck around to deliver their promised work. Which ended in a lot of refunds and apologies. troubled-pasta I'll approve artists (mainly so we have a base level of quality), don't worry about that. I'm also happy to help make art too. Umm... If I'm going to run this shouldn't I have final approval of the artists involved? Or are you talking more generalized? Spindlen I'm totally down for an auction or a raffle. I've hosted both of them as well so I can help set it up if need be. Here's the raffle I've done in the past if curious and and auction I've also done. I'd be willing to throw in two fullbody full colors or a fullbody full color couple piece. edit; I say only that much, but knowing me I'd contribute more because I love a big workload. But whatever's decided upon, I'd down to help out.
Raffle Example link Obviously we can up the prices, this was just a small shop thing to test the waters. Auction Example link Oh gosh, I hate that art example. This is old, don't mind it. Again prices can be adjusted. I tend to price myself pretty low.
Your artwork is fairly good. I would be happy having you on board for this simply because you've got experience in doing an art auction. Which would mean you'd be far less likely to disappear before finishing your piece of artwork. If you want to do more than one piece of work to gain funds for the annual ball why not consider also making your own art auction (While trying not to have it at the same time as this one of course~ ^.^; ) and donating the funds you make to the annual ball? After all not all fund raisers need to be big. Feels weird quoting myself~ But I needed an easy to see line break here. xD I didn't answer earlier in the post about how the auction would happen and stuff because I felt like I should address it to more people than just DJ. I'm thinking 1 to 3 artists doing one full body picture each. The full body picture will be of the auction winner's avatar or OC plus a Kindred of their choice. Each artist will be bidded on individually. As I'll be running the thread I'll keep track of the bids, and when its over I'll inform the artists of the highest bidder for their piece of work. At which time responsibility will shift to them. The artist will collect the funds according to their own rules (That I'll have to post before hand as part of the auction information.) and will work with the auction winner to produce the artwork for them. (Again by the artist's own rules on the matter.) After, and only after, the person has received the finished piece and all the artist's work is done with the piece, the artist will send the funds they collected to the Annual Ball Mule for collection. The reason for waiting until this point is because if for ANY reason your unable to deliver the promised piece of artwork in a timely manner Gaia's rules state that a refund must be given. So this is to avoid unnecessary complications with the funds. I think that should cover the art auction and I think I answered everything. If any of you still have questions please feel free to ask me them. cat_smile
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troubled-pasta Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:01 pm
Poyudi Hytori troubled-pasta I'll approve artists (mainly so we have a base level of quality), don't worry about that. I'm also happy to help make art too. Umm... If I'm going to run this shouldn't I have final approval of the artists involved? Or are you talking more generalized? I'm talking more in relation to the art committee itself. If an artist is going to represent the ball as a committee member, they're going to need to have at least /some/ technical skill. I don't expect everyone to be professional grade artists of course, but we do need people that have a handle on basic things like clean lines, perspective, gestalt, etc. For your event specifically it's totally up to you who you go with, but I would like to be able to veto anyone that's just not up to scratch yet.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:11 pm
troubled-pasta I'm talking more in relation to the art committee itself. If an artist is going to represent the ball as a committee member, they're going to need to have at least /some/ technical skill. I don't expect everyone to be professional grade artists of course, but we do need people that have a handle on basic things like clean lines, perspective, gestalt, etc. For your event specifically it's totally up to you who you go with, but I would like to be able to veto anyone that's just not up to scratch yet. Ah I understand. :3 Hopefully you won't have to Veto. I'm VERY (Ridiculously) Picky when it comes to art. xD And VERY Blunt on top of it. xD Lol~
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troubled-pasta Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:15 pm
Poyudi Hytori Ah I understand. :3 Hopefully you won't have to Veto. I'm VERY (Ridiculously) Picky when it comes to art. xD And VERY Blunt on top of it. xD Lol~ Picky is good, but don't forget that as a member of the crew you represent the guild. Don't be blunt at the expense of manners, that won't do anyone any favours.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:42 pm
troubled-pasta Picky is good, but don't forget that as a member of the crew you represent the guild. Don't be blunt at the expense of manners, that won't do anyone any favours. I can't help being blunt though. If I'm not I feel like I'm lieing to people which isn't right. I do try to be nice, but I don't sugar coat things. x:
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troubled-pasta Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:54 pm
Poyudi Hytori I can't help being blunt though. If I'm not I feel like I'm lieing to people which isn't right. I do try to be nice, but I don't sugar coat things. x: That's fine, I myself can be blunt at times as well. I just don't want people that are willing to volunteer their time and efforts out of the goodness of their own hearts to be treated disrespectfully. Nobody gets to be a good artist without having been a bad one first, and we all need to remember that. As long as we handle applications in a respectful way that doesn't discourage people from pursuing something they enjoy, then it's all g.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:16 pm
Personally, I already carry a lot of my own weight, just out of habit. I enjoy having a heavy workload as long as it's not overwhelming. That's really paradoxical. It's hard to explain, but basically, I already run a freebies thread and a gold shop and I do RLC inbetween. If I hold a solo auction, it's going to be for myself. I'm offering to help with a guild based auction not run my own.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:30 pm
Hello! I posted in the Art Committee, but I also wanted to check in here as well and let you guys know that I'm more than willing to contribute art. I will however be unable to draw from May 10-30, so if the art is due somewhere between May 15-30 I won't be able to do it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 pm
Lawd You wrote a book. As stated, all of that was suggestions (and believe me, there was booze involved LOL so it's not surprising that my ideas didn't pan out to be as simple as I thought they were at the time rofl ) I have been skirting around and seeing if I can get Kin donated, I'm still waiting on responses from people. If we do this fundraiser, I do not mind buying one tree killer kin for it, HOWEVER, we would have to make more than what we paid for it, or the fundraiser would be moot. So ideally: I need you to tell me your Ideal Goal on how much this fundraiser is going to raise. I understand you will need to get more information more things finalized before you can give me a solid estimate which is fine, I just need it before I can make the decision to clear it with Pasta and Newsies about purchasing the "grand prize" kin for your thread. Also, this is going to be your event/fundraiser, but if we get this thing rolling, please do not be angry with me if I am breathing down your neck to follow through. For the gold raised, I ask that all donations you get people to give be donated straight to the Annual Ball mule with the exception of the art auction donations (for reasons that you stated) if it does not overly complicate things. If not all trades can be given directly to the Annual Ball mule without complicating every bodies lives, then I ask that there be a post in the thread spotlighting all donators, and how much/what they donated to you so we can keep accurate track of that information. I will be accepting/keeping track of all trades handled at the time on the mule so that I can give accurate updates Pasta and Newsies, and yourself in regards to the fundraisers success and so I can update the kickstart thread. I'm OCD about information. Also I'm going to suggest affiliations with other Kin Give away threads, that way we can get some PR on the Ball with their threads (and the kickstart) and they can get some PR with us too, to build more of a relationship with the up coming ball as there has not been any publicity to it as of it and we can build repertoire.
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:19 pm
I'm not sure if these will be of use, as I would say none are really tree killers, but I have many kin I would not mind letting go. Listing them all is a hassle, so I will post pictures of my inventory. Some are leveled a tiny bit. Let me know if you have any questions or would like them.
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