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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:44 pm


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^All helped when I did EEW! If a guild owner does what he says he will do, let's people know what's going on and shows that he can trust people whether they be for crew duties or storylines etc, people have a good time!

Might I add that EEW was one of the biggest and best guilds of all time. If it helped him, then it's gotta be true. ;D

You really know how to touch the very depths of my heart Shanahan! heart
You have no heart you cold-blooded Englishman

Oh no you didn't! Come at me bro! blaugh
Thank God it was you saying that and not Hiro, otherwise I might've misinterpreted that
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:31 pm


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^All helped when I did EEW! If a guild owner does what he says he will do, let's people know what's going on and shows that he can trust people whether they be for crew duties or storylines etc, people have a good time!

Might I add that EEW was one of the biggest and best guilds of all time. If it helped him, then it's gotta be true. ;D

You really know how to touch the very depths of my heart Shanahan! heart
You have no heart you cold-blooded Englishman

Oh no you didn't! Come at me bro! blaugh
Thank God it was you saying that and not Hiro, otherwise I might've misinterpreted that


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:32 pm


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You really know how to touch the very depths of my heart Shanahan! heart
You have no heart you cold-blooded Englishman

Oh no you didn't! Come at me bro! blaugh
Thank God it was you saying that and not Hiro, otherwise I might've misinterpreted that


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you know what's unnecessary? These blue balls you've given me over the past few weeks.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:06 pm


You two keep your homoerotic nonsense out of my thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:22 pm


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You two keep your homoerotic nonsense out of my thread.

AND STAY OUT! scream
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:30 pm


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You two keep your homoerotic nonsense out of my thread.

AND STAY OUT! scream

WHAT HE SAID!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:33 pm


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You two keep your homoerotic nonsense out of my thread.

AND STAY OUT! scream

WHAT HE SAID!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:40 am


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You really know how to touch the very depths of my heart Shanahan! heart
You have no heart you cold-blooded Englishman

Oh no you didn't! Come at me bro! blaugh
Thank God it was you saying that and not Hiro, otherwise I might've misinterpreted that


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you know what's unnecessary? These blue balls you've given me over the past few weeks.

You're turning into a smurf! eek
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:51 pm


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Oh no you didn't! Come at me bro! blaugh
Thank God it was you saying that and not Hiro, otherwise I might've misinterpreted that


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you know what's unnecessary? These blue balls you've given me over the past few weeks.

You're turning into a smurf! eek
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:35 am


The Success of BBW [Part 2]


So last time we visited this topic, I touched on some basic things to help run your guilds efficiently, from my point of view. Communication, deadlines, etc. Things to really draw people in. Now, I'm gonna touch on some things that have a more negative connotation; I'm gonna talk about some do's and don'ts. I will note that some of this is based off recent events, this is not a shot at anyone though. s**t happens. We move on and get over it. But everything's a learning experience!

Jobs: This isn't one. This one might be a personal opinion, but this is NOT a job. The only people that owe loyalty to your guild are your champions, because that is a commitment. But to those that aren't champion or gunning for titles? They do not have a major commitment to you. Those that are booked in exhibition matches? They have no major commitments to you. I understand that it's infuriating when you see people being active elsewhere, but ignoring your guild; trust me, I -still- see it in BBW. Before you get steamed enough to drill into them, ask yourself three things:
- Are they a champion in your guild?
- Are they a champion or working a story in that other guild?
- Do you want them to be in your guild?

If they're a champion for you, then as I said, YES they do have a job in your guild. They're a top-dog, they need to be as active as they can. If they're forgetting your guild but posting in that other one, see if they're champion there. Are they? If yes, then they have a job THERE, not in your guild. If not but they're in an engaged storyline, while they're just doing random matches in yours, then guess what? They're more likely to be active there. Lastly, do you want them to be in your guild? Then talk to them, ask if they've got any stories planned or if there's a title they have interest in. Make them feel like you want them there.

You want them to be active, sure. I always want every match to be active. We know that's not gonna happen though.

Contendership: This is a touchy subject, because guild owners always have 'ideal champions'. For example, I won't lie when I say that I would've loved to put a title on Ryuu Sakamoto before he decided to disappear again. Did I expect to? No. While there are people we want to push, we have to take in multiple factors: activity level, longevity, how they work with others, etc. Sometimes, who we want as champion is not who is best for the role.

Now, something you need to remember when pushing someone, talk to your champion. If they have a storyline planned with an active person in your guild, let them try to work their story. If you don't see it taking flight, try to talk to them about reconsidering. But, do not force them to toss away a storyline for the sake of pushing that person you really want as a champion. Of course, you have to put a limit. For example, I wouldn't let a champion work an angle with a sole person for more than one Pay-Per-View run. For example, if Blackjack tried to work a story with Pantera that would go from Hardcore Harvest to Spring in The Ring? I'd demand it gets shorten down, or he loses the title to someone else along the way. But you've gotta consider what your champion wants as well. Remember, we're here to provide fun environments for them to RP in too.

HOWEVER, if you have a champion that doesn't plan any storylines and just kinda flounders around, giving you nothing to work with, then you make contender matches to your heart's content. Book him in a title defense every other card; I'm an a*****e like that though. But for more on this, visit Part One's topic on COMMUNICATION.

One last note on this. Do not give people shots out of pity. If they're being inactive or just being lazy with posts, giving a contendership match will RARELY make them get it together. If they want to succeed, they'll be active in their normal matches.

Title Shots: Matt, you just covered this! No, I didn't. If you're gonna book a title match without a contendership match prior, without a storyline in the works, without any notion beforehand, without it being a Pay-Per-View, you're not gonna have a happy champion. How to solve this? Talk to them. Make sure they're okay with this title match. If it's a PPV and you need the belt defended, and they have nothing in the works? Fine, book them against someone that deserves it. If it's just a random show and you decide that they should just defend it without talking to them, that looks sketchy to me. Now, sometimes you just look at a belt and go "Hey, they haven't defended in a couple of months, they need to", make sure they know and ask if they got anyone they'd like to face.

(I know it sounds like I'm catering a lot to champions, but that's because I've made mistakes in the past like this.)

Planning: While I encourage bookers talk to people and try to suggest plans, do not force them. I don't know how to be more blunt about this.

Keep Notes: You're gonna have people who refuse to work with eachother. Don't forget that. Let's say I hate working with Salem. You book me with Salem, chances are you're gonna get a pissy OOC match, or someone's gonna walk out. But Matt, what about champions? They gotta be willing to face everyone! This... is half-true, to me. While a champion does need to be ready to defend against everyone, their opinion does mean something. Let's say J.W. Caliber can't stand working with Brantley Summers and would rather work with Rex Kobra, then delay Summers a bit. If they keep making excuses to avoid having to face that person but won't drop the title to someone that will face him? Well, book it and tell 'em tough titt- tell them you've let them do what they want long enough, Summers deserves the shot.

Also, if someone has OOC issues with someone, don't book them. This is a general rule for me. Do not cause s**t to stir up unless they're willing to do the match. I point to the recent Three vs Arson match in CWA as an example. Do not do it. DO NOT DO IT. EVER. YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE DRAMA, DAMN IT. Also never book me against people who are passive aggressive. Just throwing that out there. I don't deal with it well.

Roughdraft: Do not make your cards, and then decide that they're set-in-stone. MAke the rough-draft, post it for the public to see. Take their comments, ask if they're okay with how they're booked, etc. Now, if you're like me and tend to not post the card preview until like 24 hours before the show-date, you're gonna have to keep open to rebooking. I've had to rebook a couple of matches at the last moment before, it happens. Be flexible.

As always, these are just my thoughts. Run your guilds as you wish, I'm just here to give advice if I can.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:21 am


It's been a long time since I've posted here, about over half a year at this point. However, there's something I wanted to mention; something that's kind of been eating away at me.

What ever happened to matches, for the sake of matches?

I know what you're thinking. "Matt, plenty of people just have matches and don't really do storylines." And you're right, a good bit do. However, I'm noticing a trend with people over the past couple of years, and it's one I'm guilty of at times. People only want to focus on their storylines.

And by that I mean, there's no matches other than the person they're working with. Then their character is shelved until a story comes their way.

Now, this has always been a thing. But as of late, it kind of irks me because I keep seeing "No match, only doing a promo" on roll calls. Now, I'm not saying you should do a match every card, but there are some that literally will only promo until their match with said person (again, I'm just as guilty as anyone).

What happened to utilizing your random matches as part of your stories?

For example, let's look at Bison and Lauri in WWF:G. While both were booked, both made it pretty clear afterwards that they had no intention of wanting a match. Both planned to just promo. Why? Why not have your matches, keep away the post-rust, and work them into your feud? Bison could screw Lauri out of a win. Lauri could screw Bison over. They could brawl before or after the match. There are tons of possibilities there, and people forget that because they think this kind of stuff is ONLY meant for promos.

I suppose what this little rant is supposed to say is... stop signing up if you're only going to promo. In fact, stop restricting yourself to only promos. This ESPECIALLY goes for champions. If you're a champion, you should be booked every show unless there's some IC reason or you have a reason you can't be around Gaia for a time period. That's just a given.

Sorry for the rant, and if I rustled any feathers. That is not my intention, and again, I KNOW I'M GUILTY TOO. But as a booker, this is something that grates at me. Let's try to start getting back to the root of this. Matches, AND storylines. Not either or.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:35 pm


This seems like the perfect threat to talk about me!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:47 pm


Probably because everyone has already faced each other a million times by now in random matches Shanahanahanahan! Stories are all we have left to keep our interest!

I do generally accept matches, did some fun stuff with Mad Dog on the current BBW show and worked with Trent on the previous WWFG show which was helpful for various storylines and character development in both feds!

But when there's been no build-up, you have a story and you're put against the same people repeatedly, I can understand why others would grow tired of it and would rather put all their energy into their storyline!

Relevant matches might help, like if Bison and Lauri are feuding, they're put into matches with the others mates or something! xd

Other ways to make matches relevant to the person (and an easy way out) would be tournament, league, contendership and title matches, because who doesn't like the chance of winning stuff even if it is imaginary?! It's all part of the spirit of competition and all that!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:06 pm


To make my point i'm just going to quote the certain point of your current post.

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For example, let's look at Bison and Lauri in WWF:G. While both were booked, both made it pretty clear afterwards that they had no intention of wanting a match. Both planned to just promo. Why? Why not have your matches, keep away the post-rust, and work them into your feud? Bison could screw Lauri out of a win. Lauri could screw Bison over. They could brawl before or after the match. There are tons of possibilities there, and people forget that because they think this kind of stuff is ONLY meant for promos.


Now I cannot speak for Bison or anyone else in that matter, only for myself but when looking at this you do make a fair point.

Problem could be with the way I think things though when sign up threads are concerned I'm under the whole mind set that if we do not show a sign of that were active all our planning is down the tubes so to speak thus why for me I sign up even if its only to promo.

But to bring up your post again. Did it ever occur to you that maybe I'd rather be working on things that i'm weak on? Without a random match to worry about at the same time? If doing random matches and say I go inactive (which seems to happen alot as of late) by your logic not only will I end up pissing off the person I plan to feud with but some random person as well. And personally while I like to not upset anyone if I have my way if it happens then I'd rather apologize to one person than multiple.
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